Qantas to do six return flights to Vancouver in January

[Ollie Menkens]

Qantas has announced six return services to Vancouver in January for peak season hopefully this flight dose well and comes all year round


Source:http://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-to-fly-to-vancouver-in-january-2015?utm_source=internal&utm_medium=flipper&utm_campaign=home-flipper

[Mackenzie Davis]

Great news for Qantas :D Nice that they are trying a new route and moving in a positive direction

[Adam W]

They should never have stopped flying there. I have flown there several times (I'm in Vancouver as I write this) via Qantas through LA and the connecting flights to Vancouver with various carriers have always had significant numbers of Australians onboard.

[Alex Ch]

Nice long slip for the operating crew!

QF75 Sydney 1450 – Vancouver 0945 Wednesdays, Saturdays
QF76 Vancouver 2345 – Sydney 1000+2 Thursdays, Sundays.

[Yusef D]

That's about minimum for a real long haul op, Alex! Probably timed so the same crew take the aircraft back. You can afford to sit aircraft around when they're fully depreciated!

I'm guessing the first flight back and the last flight up will be near empty, unless there's some canny marketing to Canadians.

[Brett o]

I noticed that there are extra flights from Melbourne to LAX ( QF 101 and 100) for the same period . I am guessing the plane may go Sydney - Vancouver- LAX - Melbourne and then return .

[JamesL]

Brett, having a look at slot allocations the QF100/101 originate in LAX

[Mark Grima]

That's about minimum for a real long haul op, Alex! Probably timed so the same crew take the aircraft back.

G'day Yusef, do I understand you correctly? Are you saying that the crew that fly up on Weds fly back on Thurs night? I would have thought a crew would need more than about 38 hours rest?

Equally that's got to be the longest down time of any operating aircraft in the world (absolutely no evidence to base that on...but surely). Would have thought they may have been able to chuck a coast to coast return in just for the sake of it...of course that means more crews and costs etc. If they can make LAX - NYC why not similar in Canada.

Nonetheless, was very surprised to read this and very happy also. Should book a trip to Vancouver just for the sake of it. Well done QANTAS.

Cheers

M

[JamesL]

Mark, QF along with VA both do that in LAX, CZ are similar in MEL.

[Rowan McKeever]

LAX-NYC is every day for forever. YVR is getting 6 services...

CAO 48.1 provides crew time limitations as well as crew rest requirements. The longest rest period that can be legally required for a crew of 3 or more is 18 hours, applying where the previous tour of duty exceeds 18 hours. Where the previous tour of duty is under 18 hours and beds or bunks are provided the minimum rest is 12 hours. So yes, the scheduling for this service allows each crew to operate out and back with their aircraft.

[Alex Ch]

That's about minimum for a real long haul op, Alex!

My understanding Yusef is that the outbound Wed crew will ops the Sun return and the Sat outbound ops the Thurs return hence my comment about the long slip.

[Brett o]

Does anyone know if the plane will stay in Vancouver for the 36 hours ?

[Rowan McKeever]

Aircraft and crew will remain in YVR until the next scheduled return (i.e. the next night).

[Mark Grima]

Mark, QF along with VA both do that in LAX, CZ are similar in MEL.

I know both QF and VA have 12 plus hours on the group in LAX (although QF have just changed this, right??) but not 36 hours.

Can't speak of CZ, I couldn't find a timetable on their website to save my life.

Obviously its financially viable for QF or they wouldn't be doing it. Just surprising really.

Cheers

M

[Brad Myer]

Qantas have applied for year round 3x weekly services:

http://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-mulls-ongoing-vancouver-flights

http://www.iasc.gov.au/applications/files/4920.pdf

[Ollie Menkens]

Qantas is looking to go to Vancouver all year around

source:http://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-mulls-ongoing-vancouver-flights?utm_source=internal&utm_medium=flipper&utm_campaign=home-flipper

the application form is here

Source:http://www.iasc.gov.au/applications/files/4920.pdf

happy read

[Kent Broadhead]

What's the betting that it will become a JQ route when they have their full 787 complement? 787 seems much more the right plane for the route than 744.

[Max C]

Doubt it, the 11 JQ 787's are a one-for-one swap with the A330's. Future Qantas Group 787's could still end up anywhere, if they turn up at all.

I wouldn't be betting on JQ international doing too much expansion in the future.

[JamesL]

It would be severely weight restricted when leaving YVR during the summer period similar to the B777s operating at the moment.

[Brad Myer]

The QF B744ERs scheduled to operate the flights will have no restrictions.

[JamesL]

I was referring to the B788s...

[Yusef D]

Not a good 787-8 route.

-9 however...

and there would be no benefit in running the old jumbo further east. The JFK service only works (if indeed it does) because it collects pax from 3 Aus flights. Else every time someone gets off at the first stop, there's an empty seat.

[Ryan N]

I've just returned from Vancouver this morning. The crew on the Air Canada flight told me they go back to Vancouver tomorrow morning. That's a little over 25 hours down time, but it's probably much less than that, since the 25-26 hours are the time the aircraft touches down in SYD today to when their aircraft take off tomorrow.

[Mick F]

Canada also has much less stringent fatigue laws as well.

Mick

[Rowan McKeever]

QF has announced (http://www.qantas.com.au/agents/dyn/qf/info/201502/0201)seasonal SYD-YVR flights for short periods in both Northern Summer and Northern Winter 2015. Refurbed 744s to operate.

In addition, some changes to the HNL schedule including one additional weekly peak period frequency around the end of NS15.