THY A330 Runway Overshoot at Kathmandu

[Alex T]

Luckily all pax are safe and there are no serious injuries or deaths.

http://avherald.com/h?article=482a5e9e&opt=0

http://www.9news.com.au/world/2015/03/04/15/19/passengers-safe-after-turkish-jet-skids-off-wet-runway-in-dense-fog

[Mark Grima]

New aircraft, less than 1 year old. From some passenger accounts was rather hard landing. Who knows if its repairable or not.

I don't think Nepal, let alone the airport has the equipment to move an A330, so the airport could be closed for a number of days.

Cheers

M

[Grahame Hutchison]

Some Advertising Artwork (https://twitter.com/TaylorHerringUK/status/563084328708870145/photo/1) does NOT lend itself to escalator panels.

[Adrian B]

Reports are that the runway will remain closed until they receive heavy lift gear from India

[George G]

Some Advertising Artwork (https://twitter.com/TaylorHerringUK/status/563084328708870145/photo/1) does NOT lend itself to escalator panels.

:D:D:D

[Grahame Hutchison]

It looks like being a very make shift recovery operation ... is the truck going to go forwards or backwards ? it looks like rough terrain under the timber blocks.


From www.chakrapath.com (http://www.chakrapath.com)

http://www.chakrapath.com/assets/upload/contentthumb/xairport.jpg.pagespeed.ic.fo94BPp7Tf.jpg

[Mark Grima]

Reports are that the runway will remain closed until they receive heavy lift gear from India

Most recent media out off india suggested the runway would open (and therefore all fixed wing operations) about 1000am local, today. That was about 3 hours ago.

http://www.pahilopost.com/content/-2704.html

Some pics and video above.

I'm not really sure people understand the impact of this incident on Nepal. The country has essentially been closed for two days. Tourism is a huge export for the country and this time of the year is still reasonably busy.

Edit - just beat me to it Grahame. That's almost better than you could normally expect from Nepal.

Cheers

M

[Grahame Hutchison]

Kathmandu is really the gateway to Everest, with flights operating to Lukla (2880m), the starting point for the 62km, 8-9 day walk to Base Camp (5360m). When
my brother did Base Camp in the climbing season, he said is was very busy at Kathmandu, Lukla, and many of the overnight stops on the way to base camp. Apart
from the serious climbers, there are many "tourists" who make their way to Base Camp, providing a source of income for the Sherpas and general population.

It can be a very hostile environment, and recovering anything can be impossible at times.

Helicopter wrecks along the track to Base Camp
http://www.16right.com/MessageBoard/Everest 01.jpg

Aircraft wrecks along the track to Base Camp
http://www.16right.com/MessageBoard/Everest 02.jpg

Twin Otters fly from Kathmando to Lukla
http://www.16right.com/MessageBoard/Everest 03.jpg

The parking area at Lukla airport, and the steep runway
http://www.16right.com/MessageBoard/Everest 04.jpg

Sherpas do all the heavy carrying, and tourists are a major source of income
http://www.16right.com/MessageBoard/Everest 05.jpg

[Grahame Hutchison]

Looking a little more promising ... and now back on the runway


https://www.facebook.com/nepalitimes

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[Robert.M]

Wonder how much damage it has received in the accident and recovery!

[Grahame Hutchison]

It looks like both engines have taken some punishment

[Arthur T]

Where is the front landing gear of the aircraft? And I am surprised that no crane was used to lift the plane up, according to the pictures, not sure if there's been used behind the scenes.

On the other hand, during the closure of the airport, can't planes diverted to another airport in Nepal and change there for buses to KTH?

[Mark Grima]

Hi Arthur,

Nepal has very very basic infrastructure. There was no crane in the city that could assist with the lift and as the runway was closed none could be flown in from India. The lift was conducted using airbags from India. I assume they were choppered in. The heliport is on the opposite side of the aerodrome.

This lack of infrastructure really does make the Nepalis the kings of improvising, as can be seen in the photos. No doubt the bosses at Turkish would have been having some coronaries but really there would have been no other option.

KTM is pretty much the only major airport in Nepal. Lukla is obviously rather famous, bit at 2800 amsl, only 530 metres long and with a 30 degree slope it is obviously far to short and unsuitable for anything other then a Twin Otter to land on. Lets be honest, they probably shouldn't even be landing there.

If Lukla was a better airport, the fact that there are no vehicular roads in Lukla is the next issue. The guests would have to walk the 90km, over 10,000 vertical metres to get to Jiri which is a short 160km and 6-8 hour drive from KTM. Yep 160kms in 8 hours gives you a clue to the quality of the regional roads in Nepal.

Pokhara is the only other airport that accepts fixed wing aircraft as far as I am aware. Although I have not flown there so I can not be sure. I believe the runway is about 1400m long, i'm not sure how wide it is. A320's need about 50m width, I think? I doubt Pokhara would be that wide. Its over 200kms from KTM, however the roads are a little better so I think 5 hour journeys between the cities are not to uncommon.

Nepal is an awesome country however they are just a few years behind in infrastructure. I'd like to think this incident brings some attention on the airport though. They really can't afford to have it closed for such a long period of time. Tourism can be effected to easily and i'm sure it would be the countries largest export.

Cheers

M

[Mat James]

Found a video from inside of the landing. Quite interesting to note that you can only see the runway in the last couple of seconds before landing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkLUriZPqIM

[Radi K]

Glad to see everyone got away with their carry-on luggage in hand :eek:

[John C]

You could see it turning to worms as the vis reduced - when you can't see the inboard part of the wing, let alone the wingtip the vis is not all that flash.

I was interested to hear - or not hear as the case may be, the lack of commands from the cabin crew and the very brief PA which had I been a passenger on the flight would have meant nothing to me.

[Alex Ch]

Yeah, RVR isn't great! The 'cabin crew at stations' command from the flight deck is a cue which would pre-empt an emergency evacuation while they run the checklist.

The post evacuation video is interesting as well. The bloke at 3.15 walking around the aircraft while smoking is pretty unbelievable.

At 5.35 it's a bit surreal seeing the flight deck and cabin crew just standing around as if nothing as happened.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sr7Y65quulU