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Philip Argy
31st July 2008, 08:26 AM
This may be a very dumb question, but why is YSSY runway 07-25 not designated 06-24 given its orientation of 62/242 degrees? Is it because when it was first named the measurements were less accurate or is it just magnetic variation over time, or some other explanation?

I did look first at clause 7.10 of Chapter 11 of CASA's Rules & Practices for Aerodromes:



7.10 The runway designation marking is to consist of a two-digit number. The number is to be derived from the magnetic bearing of the runway centreline, when viewed from the direction of approach, rounded to the nearest ten degrees. If a bearing becomes a single digit number, an `0' is to be placed before it. If a bearing becomes a three-digit number, the last `0' digit is to be omitted. For parallel runways appropriate letters L(left), C(centre) or R(right) are to be added to the two-digit number.



It doesn't say rounded "up" to the nearest 10 degrees, but is that the conventional interpretation? Runway 16-34 has a true orientation of 155/335 degrees so it complies with both interpretations and therefore doesn't assist in resolving any ambiguity.

:confused:

Phil M
31st July 2008, 09:04 AM
I'm not sure about Sydney specifically, but I believe the numbers don't have to be accurate for runway designators.

For example, the old 36/18 at Bankstown was about 342 degrees, but there were too many 34's in the Sydney basin, and then with 35/17, it would have looked too much like 11, so they went with 36/18.

Maybe something like that for Sydney too?

David Ramsay
31st July 2008, 09:15 AM
Consider LAX with four parallel runways, all 249 magnetic, 263 true.

25L, 25R, 24L, 24R.

Adrian B
31st July 2008, 09:34 AM
Ithink I have seen the reason before on ye olde board. Nigel can probably advise.

Nigel C
31st July 2008, 12:38 PM
If they were using both Rwy "06" and "16" simultaneously, or indeed Rwy "24" and "34" together then there's a great potential for confusion, hence Rwy 07/25 was used.

Furthermore, the Airfield Operations team at Sydney don't use the callsign "Car 7", and don't use "Car 16" for works related vehicles for the same reason.

Adam P.
31st July 2008, 01:14 PM
And here's me thinking you lot just couldn't count, Nigel.

Nigel C
31st July 2008, 02:45 PM
We can't...we're just told what to say!