Arabian knights challenge Kangaroo route

[Gerald A]

Steve Creedy | August 01, 2008

MIDDLE Eastern carriers this week dealt another blow to the traditional Kangaroo route -- flying between Europe and Australia via hubs in Asia -- with announcements of big jumps in services to Melbourne and Brisbane.



Link http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24107673-23349,00.html

[Gerald A]

Etihad Airways has 4 A340s on order.

A340-500
A6-EHI 929
A6-EHJ 933

A340-600
A6-AHK 1030
A6-EHL 1038

[Michael Mak]

Would Ethid get a replacement for the A340-600 that was written off at the Airbus factory earlier this year?

[Rhys Xanthis]

Would Ethid get a replacement for the A340-600 that was written off at the Airbus factory earlier this year?

Considering (i think) it was still with airbus, and before delivery, i would think it would be replaced?



As for "recycling", if it is considered a "total loss", the airframe will be paid for by Airbus' insurance co at the insured value, the insurance co will then auction off the wreckage. Airbus will properbaly not use any part of it for another new aircraft, since they are not authorized to use any "used" parts per their manufacturing authority. Totaled engines will be treated the same as the airframe, damaged engines will get a full tear down, any parts found damaged during detail inspection will be paid for by RR's insurance, to a total limit of 1/2 of the catalog price of the complete engine (typical for Airline insurance), then a total loss will be declared, very likly most of the inspected engine parts will be reinstroduced into the spares market via third party. The cabin furnishing provided (seats, galleys, and IFE system, purchased by Eithad and installed on the aircraft) is approximately $10M, Airbus' insurance company will not consider that as a loss and either sue Etihad to take them back or Airbus may take the responsibility, selling them as an used surplus package and buy all new equipment to be install on the replacement airframe.

from here http://www.nycaviation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=9161&start=0

but i think that is more a guess than what is really going to happen, although i cant imagine Etihad having to wear the cost!

[Andrew McLaughlin]

Considering (i think) it was still with airbus, and before delivery, i would think it would be replaced?

but i think that is more a guess than what is really going to happen, although i cant imagine Etihad having to wear the cost!

In other words...

[Grant Smith]

Macca,

In gambling terms, it's called hedging your bets ;)

[Rhys Xanthis]

Macca,

In gambling terms, it's called hedging your bets ;)

Well i would call it im almost sure it would be replaced by airbus, but nothing is sure;)

[Grant Smith]

Well i would call it im almost sure it would be replaced by airbus, but nothing is sure;)

And by that you mean you have no idea...

[Montague S]

In gambling terms, it's called hedging your bets

never bet on black... :p

[Philip Argy]

Seven of the ten people that were on that aircraft during the engine run up testing incident were employees of Abu Dhabi Aircraft Technologies, a contractor that does final testing for Etihad. Be careful before you assume that Airbus has responsibility for what happened. ;)

[Rhys Xanthis]

Seven of the ten people that were on that aircraft during the engine run up testing incident were employees of Abu Dhabi Aircraft Technologies, a contractor that does final testing for Etihad. Be careful before you assume that Airbus has responsibility for what happened. ;)

Yes, i was just skim-reading about that on airliners.net forum.

I guess it all matters who was in control at the time...I wonder if those other 3 were etihad employees (perhaps a flight crew)?

In any case, this is what is state in an Airbus sales contract;

TOTAL LOSS; LOST, DESTROYED OR DAMAGED AIRCRAFT

If, before delivery thereof, in the reasonable opinion of the Seller, an
Aircraft is lost, destroyed or damaged beyond economic repair ("Total
Loss"), then the Seller will notify the Buyer to this effect as soon as
reasonably possible. The Seller will include in its notice, or as soon
after the notice as possible, the earliest date that an aircraft to
replace the Aircraft may be delivered to the Buyer. The notice will also
state a revised Scheduled Delivery Month for the replacement aircraft.
However, in the event the specified revised Scheduled Delivery Month is
more than twelve (12) months after the last day of the originated
Scheduled Delivery Month, then this Agreement will terminate unless

(i) the Buyer notifies the Seller within one (1) month of the date
of receipt of the Sellerls notice that it desires the Seller to
provide a replacement aircraft during the month quoted in the
Seller's notice, and

(ii) the parties execute an amendment to this Agreement recording the
variation in the Scheduled Delivery Month.

Nothing i can see in there about blame though - only about delivery...and by all accounts it wasn't officially handed over ot etihad, they were just doing pre-acceptance tests on it...could be an interesting story if it goes to court.