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Greg Hyde
31st October 2019, 11:05 AM
Calls for Qantas to ground Boeing 737 fleet after crack discovered on second aircraft

Australia's aviation engineering union has called on Qantas to ground its entire Boeing 737 fleet after a crack was discovered on a second aircraft overnight.

The airline yesterday said it would immediately inspect 33 Boeing 737 planes after a crack was found on one of them during a scheduled maintenance check.

The Australian Licensed Aircraft Engineers Association (ALAEA) said both cracks were on a part of the plane called the "pickle fork", which holds up the wings.

"These aircrafts should not be flying," ALAEA boss Steven Purvinas said.

"The area where the crack is takes the load off the wing and all the fuel it carries.

"As long as Qantas is unaware which aircrafts do or don't have cracks, they should ground the entire fleet until they know which are safe to fly."

The airline said the cracks did not compromise safety and that calls to ground its fleet were unreasonable.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-31/cracks-discovered-on-second-qantas-boeing-737/11657146

Qantas, Southwest Airlines checking Boeing 737 planes for structural cracks

https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/incidents/qantas-southwest-airlines-checking-boeing-737-planes-for-structural-cracks/news-story/565826954fd9151b51896ae905642421

Yusef D
1st November 2019, 10:21 AM
While I do have respect for Steve Purvinas, no aviation professional should use the word aircrafts.

Greg Hyde
1st November 2019, 11:07 AM
3 a/c found with cracks and grounded.

Reece perram
1st November 2019, 01:12 PM
Do we know which these 3 aircraft are?

Adrian B
1st November 2019, 01:44 PM
Qantas Press Conference here: Source Youtube - 7 News (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkiAbF5FM7M)

This youtube file from Waren Brown (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HprNMrjK6_I) has the FAA AD, plus some other illustrations to explain.

Greg Hyde
1st November 2019, 02:51 PM
https://australianaviation.com.au/2019/11/qantas-grounds-three-boeing-737-800s-after-cracks-found-in-pickle-fork/

More info, no aircraft identified as yet

Greg Hyde
1st November 2019, 03:11 PM
Just check the fleet and a few candidates are:

VXA parked Melb since 30/10
VXU parked Bris since 29/10
VXC Bris maint since 15/10
VXM Bris maint since 18/10

MarkR
1st November 2019, 03:24 PM
Not surprised if its VXA and VXC given they were early deliveries.

Erik H. Bakke
2nd November 2019, 10:52 AM
Are those 4 in the range for the number of cycles mentioned? Around 27,000 or so, I think?

Greg McDonald
2nd November 2019, 10:57 AM
Quite funny really...every time Steve Purvinas says it's black, Qantas says it's white! :)

Greg Hyde
2nd November 2019, 11:28 AM
Of the QF fleet only 33 had the number of cycles warranting checks.

The above 4 were selected based on movements up to yesterday (not cycles).

ie: Aircraft already in maintenance as well as those which hadn't flown for several days (maybe grounded)

Dennis McLean
2nd November 2019, 03:05 PM
VXF in BNE since 11pm on 31/10

Adrian B
8th November 2019, 11:00 AM
A report in The Age newspaper (http://www.theage.com.au) claims that Lion Air have found cracks in younger aircraft. (Sorry I cant share the article)

The article by Patrick Hatch and Karuni Rompies states 2 Lion Air aircraft with fewer than the mandated minimum of 22600 flight cycles have been found to have cracks,, but also states it is in the -900 variant, whereas QF and VA operate -700 and -800 variants.

Greg Hyde
8th November 2019, 01:20 PM
SMH is reporting the same story

https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/pickle-cracks-found-on-newer-737s-spark-fresh-calls-for-qantas-virgin-inspections-20191106-p53828.html

Brenden S
10th November 2019, 03:36 PM
Lionair aircraft were under 18000 cycles.

Oliver Gigacz
23rd November 2019, 02:43 PM
VXA flew up to BNE yesterday after being in MEL since 30/10.

James Smith
8th March 2020, 03:57 PM
The three QANTAS B738s that required pickle fork repairs are all back in service:

VXF - Returned to service on 19/12/19
VXM - Returned to service on 17/1/20
VXA - Returned to service on 15/2/20