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Lukas M
4th November 2008, 08:11 PM
Is webtrak for ASA airports, old or new news?? Found it on PPrune just now..

Melbourne http://mel.webtrak-lochard.com/template/index.html (http://mel.webtrak-lochard.com/template/index.html)
Sydney http://syd.webtrak-lochard.com/template/index.html (http://syd.webtrak-lochard.com/template/index.html)
Brisbane http://bne.webtrak-lochard.com/template/index.html (http://bne.webtrak-lochard.com/template/index.html)
Gold Coast http://ool.webtrak-lochard.com/template/index.html
Canberra http://cbr.webtrak-lochard.com/template/index.html (http://cbr.webtrak-lochard.com/template/index.html)
Adelaide http://adl.webtrak-lochard.com/template/index.html (http://adl.webtrak-lochard.com/template/index.html)

USERNAME: asa
PASSWORD: Air.Services
(these are case sensitive)

(Change asa airport code in URL for more regions)

Micheil Keegan
4th November 2008, 09:00 PM
Something you have to log in for?

Lukas M
4th November 2008, 09:13 PM
Sorry, here are login details...
USERNAME: asa
PASSWORD: Air.Services
(these are case sensitive)

Ahmet H
5th November 2008, 07:04 AM
Not working for me this morning. Username or password is incorrect.

Lukas M
5th November 2008, 07:06 AM
I see, looks like they have changed it around:mad:. Well, it was good for a play last night anyway

Pavitar Singh
5th November 2008, 11:27 AM
Last night when I was able to log in it said the website was for general public viewing. It seems that wasn't the case!

Lukas M
11th December 2008, 06:37 PM
I see its working again now.

Andrew M
11th December 2008, 08:53 PM
This is sensational!!! :D

Best thread and website of the year!

Wayne Bee
11th December 2008, 09:40 PM
Is this real time as all the flights I have looked appear to me as being 1 hour different. Just watched MAS140 depart Syd on it , but on the balus site it shows MAS 140 over OOL, at 13000ft. Is it because on the ESDT??

Andrew M
11th December 2008, 10:01 PM
Delayed to the time indicated in the bottom right corner of the page I think

EG it's now 11PM AEDST and the time for the flights is 10:18pm

Shame it's not real time

Sarah C
12th December 2008, 06:43 AM
The only problem with it is it isn't real time. The current flights are shown 40 minutes late. Still, it is better than nothing.

NickN
12th December 2008, 09:49 AM
Pay the 25 Euros and get PlanePlotter which is real time.

Pavitar Singh
12th December 2008, 02:41 PM
From Airservices:

WebTrak

WebTrak is an innovative system providing the community with information on where and how high aircraft fly, as well as noise levels of these operations.

It allows members of the public access to detailed information on aircraft operations around major airports.

WebTrak is part of the largest integrated Noise and Flight Path Monitoring System in the world.

How does it work?
WebTrak uses information from air traffic control secondary surveillance radars to monitor aircraft:

within 55 km of the airport
up to a height of 3000m above ground level
Aircraft noise data is downloaded daily from noise monitors strategically located about the communities close to the airport.

The information is then displayed on a detailed map (road or aerial) which enables the user to zoom down to their street level.

In Current Flights mode you can view current operations (delayed by 40 minutes for aviation security reasons) around the airport.

In Replay Mode you can access flight information and noise data for the previous two weeks.

Matt D
12th December 2008, 06:00 PM
The BAA also have this service for Heathrow, Gatwick, Stansted etc.

http://lhr.webtrak-lochard.com/template/index.html

http://vatpac.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2051&stc=1&d=1209730548

Peter Casey
12th December 2008, 06:12 PM
The layout reminds me of a Software ATC Simulator I used to have called Tracon.

Terminal Radar Approach Control, also had a radar sweep on it too, and for memory you could throw in some cloud coverage as well and hand off to towers with the ILS too. A Great Program !!

Rgds
Peter

Philip Argy
19th December 2008, 07:36 AM
The only problem with it is it isn't real time. The current flights are shown 40 minutes late. Still, it is better than nothing.

If you untick 'current' and set the display time to 24, 48 or 72 hours before current time you will often get a close approximation of current activity, obviously subject to similar weather and on-schedule movements. I find it more useful than the real time less 40 minutes display simply because it better approximates the scheduled movements.

Does anyone know what the moving 'Beacon' symbols are - they seem to do tight circuits at low altitude?

Henry Sackville
19th December 2008, 09:47 PM
'Beacon' appears to represent a transponder squawk code. Most are squawking VFR code 1200. Is it possible that it is because these have no flight plan filed, or maybe it has something to do with the level of ident sent in their ADS-B signal?

Mick F
19th December 2008, 09:52 PM
VFR aircraft not currently under RADAR surveillance.

Mick

Mark D
19th December 2008, 10:14 PM
Does anyone know what the moving 'Beacon' symbols are - they seem to do tight circuits at low altitude?

Tracks not associated with a flight plan in the ATC system, so VFR in Class G or the restricted areas over the harbour.

My understanding is that the login that was published on PPRune was not originally intended for public consumption, but for Airservices internal use. A different level of access was to be available publically. Looks like the same data either way now.

As it's designed for noise issues no tracks are shown above 10,000 feet

THe mention of ADS-B in the thread has me curious... at this stage I *think* the noise monitoring system that supplies this data doesn't have ADS-B info sent to it. But I could be wrong! :-)

Official public link is now via here:
http://www.airservices.gov.au/aviationenvironment/noise/default.asp

Grahame Hutchison
20th December 2008, 09:11 AM
WebTrak is quite a good representation of the activity in and around YSSY and YSBK (another useful resource). The Robinson R44 departed YSSY and then tracked up the coast and the VFR aircraft out of Bankstown squak 1200 on their Transponder. I like the way you can bring up the small window for each aircraft and show the altitude changing as the track (the line to the aircraft also moves with it). I don't know whether there is a limitation on the number of individual windows, as these would not appear from new aircraft after a while.

I was thinking of doing a Harbour Scenic 1 tomorrow morning so it will be interesting to have a look and see what happens when I get the clearance and a new squak code. I assume it will still show as General Aviation but with the new clearance code.

http://www.16Right.com/MessageBoard/YSSY WebTrak.jpg

Philip Argy
19th January 2009, 07:09 AM
I'm just getting an error message that initialisation failed and language was not loaded.

Anyone else seen that?

Update: must have been transitory as it's working 5 mins later

Philip Argy
10th April 2009, 08:31 AM
As it's designed for noise issues no tracks are shown above 10,000 feet


At about 7:23 this morning there were three a/c over Lane Cove/Drummoyne, only one of which appeared on Webtrak. Two were headed south and one north west, apparantly at an intermediate altitude. Only the lowest of the three (a CX flight from memory) appeared momentarily on Webtrak and the highest of the three showed a nice crisp twin engine contrail.

One oddity is that the Webtrak display of the CX flight path disappears for about 60 seconds, which seems to me to be the time that they were all in overlapping flight paths, albeit well separated vertically. Is this a Webtrak limitation, or my imagination, or just a flukey event?

Chris Griffiths
11th April 2009, 09:14 PM
Phillip,
Webtrack only monitors aircraft up to 10,000ft or so, hence your contrail aircraft would not be displayed, can't answer for your third aircraft but it may have been above that height as well.

Philip Argy
12th April 2009, 12:33 AM
The absence of the higher two a/c I assumed was attributable to their being above 10,000 ft (which is the reason for my prefaced quote) but my real query is why the CX a/c disappeared from Webtrak for a minute and then re-appeared, with a gap in the displayed tracking line.

Benny Zheng
26th September 2009, 12:35 AM
Just to bring this thread back to life, we can see the go around of some planes on Wednesday during the dust storm. For example at 0530LT, we can see BA15 performing a go around.

I must say this is a pretty useful tool for just info gathering and tracking though i must say it's pretty buggy sometimes.

Gerard M
16th October 2009, 01:22 PM
I just had a look at Webtrak and there is now a new feature when you have clicked on an aircraft, you can now "Report" this aircraft and make a complaint.
And it appears they have'nt adjusted their clocks for daylight savings time
Cheers