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Jarden S
18th April 2009, 04:27 PM
Does anyone know when VB will receive there next E-190 Jet. They could open up plenty of new routes with the 104 seater jet. e.g.

From Perth to Townsville and Perth to Canberra and Perth to Gold Coast. That would easily use up one aircraft.
Darwin to Townsville and to Canberra and Adelaide would use up another aircraft. Even a Cairns to Canberra but not much chance of that one happening.

Mick F
18th April 2009, 05:21 PM
There's more chance of a Cairns-Canberra route happening, than any of the others!

Even when air travel was at it's best last year, the chances of having a Perth-Townsville, or a Darwin-Townsville, would be next to zero.

Mick

Radi K
18th April 2009, 05:28 PM
the chances of having a Darwin-Townsville, would be next to zero.

Never say never, remember they are two big defence force bases and VB is getting more and more ADF high yield pax.

Michael Morrison
18th April 2009, 05:48 PM
Michael, please refrain from quoting the whole previous post in your post, it is not necessary, thank you - mod

Actually the ADf is one of the worst departments for giving Virgin Blue business.

The SMH published some stats for the amount of buisness each govt gave DJ ex Canberra and they only gave something like 4%. A far cry from the 30% the govt had prmised.

John C
18th April 2009, 08:16 PM
ZPM is due to depart Sao Jose Dos Campos on or around April 30th, for an arrival in Brisbane about 6-7 days later

Jarden S
19th April 2009, 11:48 PM
There's more chance of a Cairns-Canberra route happening, than any of the others!

Even when air travel was at it's best last year, the chances of having a Perth-Townsville, or a Darwin-Townsville, would be next to zero.

Mick

I reckon Perth- Gold Coast would be the best bet out of all of them. My reason for that is they are the 2 biggest cities in Australia not yet served with a non stop flight. Plus it is a major domestic holiday destination Gold Coast with its theme parks as Perth not have anything like that yet.

Rhys Xanthis
20th April 2009, 02:38 AM
can an e190 even do per-ool non stop with a full load?

Bruce Bramwell
20th April 2009, 10:08 AM
I reckon Perth- Gold Coast would be the best bet out of all of them. My reason for that is they are the 2 biggest cities in Australia not yet served with a non stop flight. Plus it is a major domestic holiday destination Gold Coast with its theme parks as Perth not have anything like that yet.

Did they not try this with a B737-700???? while ago

Joseph Saragozza.
20th April 2009, 10:13 AM
isnt ZPM the E-190 painted in the Pacific Blue livery as seen in this pic or has it been repainted to stranded DJ livery
http://www.aeroworldnews.com.br/foto_detalhe.php?codigo=6380

Rhys Xanthis
20th April 2009, 11:09 PM
Did they not try this with a B737-700???? while ago

Sure did.

And it failed!

An E-190 operating in peak times could work though.

Radi K
21st April 2009, 11:52 AM
And it failed!

It primarily failed due to payload limitations ex OOL (due to the short runway). Now that it has been extended I'm sure these restrictions would be far less severe.

The E190 would be stretched to operate OOL-PER, especially in winter with a full payload.

Lukas M
21st April 2009, 12:14 PM
think you will see Tiger on that route before anyone else...

Bruce Bramwell
21st April 2009, 01:45 PM
If it failed with a 737, why do you think it would work in a EMB-190?

Michael Morrison
21st April 2009, 02:17 PM
Michael, please refrain from quoting the whole previous post in your post, it is not necessary, thank you - mod

Canberra failed with a 737 and they gave that another shot with the E jets.

Bruce Bramwell
21st April 2009, 04:42 PM
DJ dont operate PER - CBR?

Michael Morrison
21st April 2009, 07:30 PM
Michael, please refrain from quoting the whole previous post in your post, it is not necessary, thank you - mod

Who said anything about PER-CBR?

You pointed out a route failed that had a 737 operating it and then asked "why do you think it would work in a EMB-190? "

I was merely pointing out DJ have flown 737's on other routes like SYD-CBR (and CBR-OOL??)and have re entered that market with an Embraer, so they obviously see a benefit in using a smaller plane on some 737 failed routes in the past.

John C
21st April 2009, 08:23 PM
You could probably do Perth Gold Coast, but you couldnt do Gold Coast to Perth

Bruce Bramwell
22nd April 2009, 11:08 AM
We were talkuing about the routes from Perth, yet you start talking about CBR????

Jarden S
22nd April 2009, 11:49 AM
At the start of this topic, I did put in the question of a new route running from Perth to Canberra for VB's next E-190 so thats how others are mentioning about CBR.

Justin L
22nd April 2009, 12:04 PM
I think it is also clear that the discussion is referring to Canberra in the respect that 737s didn't work on the SYD-CBR route but were later relaunched with E-jet. The comparsion was being made suggesting that if the previous 737 PER-OOL route didn't work, would relaunching this route as an E-jet service similarly be viable.