Saturday Afternoon Cross Wind At YSSY

[Grahame Hutchison]

With the wind swing between 230 and 270 degrees and reaching 28Kts, some of the approaches to Runway 34 Left on Saturday afternoon were interesting. One aircraft actually requested a 16Right departure but there was little interest from the tower. Holding the camera in the crosswind was also challenging.

A Qantas B737-800 having a go.
http://www.16right.com/MessageBoard/D300-2009-05-16_012.jpg

UPS MD-11 N252UP working hard, we can see the starboard side of the aircraft from the beach.
http://www.16right.com/MessageBoard/D300-2009-05-16_021.jpg

UPS MD-11 N252UP demonstrates a good cross wind technique.
http://www.16right.com/MessageBoard/D300-2009-05-16_025.jpg

Virgin Blue B737 and again we could see the starboard side of the aircraft.
http://www.16right.com/MessageBoard/D300-2009-05-16_057.jpg

A Qantas B767 absolutely nose onto the beach.
http://www.16right.com/MessageBoard/D300-2009-05-16_193.jpg

Another QF B767 with probably a little more cross wind than the rest.
http://www.16right.com/MessageBoard/D300-2009-05-16_200.jpg

[Lee G]

Wow!!!!

Great shots !!!! Must have been almost blowing you off the ladder out there ... (I assume you were on a ladder near the fenceline?)

[phil.l]

Some great apporach shots Grahame, well done.

[andrew evans]

Nice

[Gerard M]

Amazing set of photos again Grahame! For sure some of the passengers would have slightly elevated heart rates along with some pilots i presume!
Love the two with the MD-11!

Thanks for posting them!

Gerard

[Owen H]

Great photos Grahame! I knew the thread talking about crosswinds would bring a few on!

[Gerard M]

Feel free to post your photos too Chris. I'd be happy to see others of MD11 and A380! :)

We're there many go-arounds on Saturday?

[James Smith]

Wow, the passengers on the starboard window would have been able to see down the runway they were about to land on. Has anyone experienced that sight from a landing aircraft?

[Warren P.]

Some great shots there.

[Grahame Hutchison]

Gerard, not a single go around between 2pm and 5pm from what I saw.

[Michael Atkin]

I was out at the airport on saturday morning, the wind then was pretty insane aswell. The Garuda A330 honestly looked like it was about to crash and there were alot of hairy approaches.
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff117/michael_atkin/9m-mpo_malayia_744.jpg
as you can see Malaysian had a bit of difficulty.

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff117/michael_atkin/b-6059_china_southern_a332.jpg
and China southern did quite well given the circumstances.

[Kieran Wells]

Guys, some top shots(Grahame, as well the others in the QF one world thread with mine). Listening to the radio on the mound where i was quite funny at times, with atc saying that the wind was "blowing", without an actual reading, and it did go from about 18 knows up to 24 at one stage and between 5-8 on the nose. Unfortunately I didn't get to the beach and left about 3.30ish just after the ANZ 772 rotated, due to other commitments. Certainly was a fun day there, and did get to chat to a guy who bought his nephews and nieces out, with his interest in aviation growing..

[Mike W]

Wow, the passengers on the starboard window would have been able to see down the runway they were about to land on. Has anyone experienced that sight from a landing aircraft?

Absolutely. Landing from the south (from Cook Straight) into Wellington on an Air New Zealand 733 about 10 years ago. As soon as I saw the (great) shots above, I thought of that landing and how I was watching the runway coming up from the side of the plane. It was awesome to experience.

Some of the other pax were less enthalled, I might add.

[Lee G]

Grahame,

Is that you at the fenceline in the photo of the BA 777 taken by Chris D?

I notice that there are three ladders each with camera kit attached.:)

[Stephen Harris]

It was the first time for me at the beach. Was enjoying it so much I took the mrs and twins out both days.

I was just next to the old control tower and the way the aircraft were coming in sideways was awesome. The Fedex MD 11 was the best.

Steve

[Grahame Hutchison]

Lee, I am just out of shot to the left, standing on the top step of a 5 step ladder looking over the top of these guys.

[Erik H. Bakke]

Been in an A-seat on a B737 landing on Bergen's runway 35 with a rather strong westerly crosswind.

Was an amazing view, but with all the turbulence associated with the strong wind, it was also quite a sweaty experience.

[Lee G]

Grahame,

I'm even more impressed than I was before - atop a 5 step ladder in a gale and producing photos like that!:D

[Andrew McLaughlin]

Did anyone else get out there for the sunrise yesterday morning? I'd just arrived back from Europe and spend an hour or two at the mound before heading home. Snapped these during the light show!

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewqueued_b.php?id=2495923

http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p402/Magoodotcom/IMG_7514_2.jpg

http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p402/Magoodotcom/IMG_7513_2.jpg

Aircraft yesterday morning were reporting hitting 56kt cross winds through 1500 feet right after takeoff. Made for some interesting sights as they were hammered sideways and looked like they had virtually zero ground speed as they turned towards the WNW after takeoff! Emirates' A380 to AKL stayed very low while it built up some airspeed then after it turned to the WNW, it climbed like a homesick angel!

[Dan Hammond]

Andrew those shots are stunning, I bet a hundred times better in person though.

[Erik H. Bakke]

I was out there yesterday morning, from 6:10AM until 10:45AM.

However, there were clear skies and nothing as spectacular as this. Was this on Saturday morning, perhaps?

[andrew evans]

AMAZING photo's Andrew

[Mike S]

Andrew you should enter the photography competition running over on the whirlpool broadband forums, under the photography section.

The current competiton is about "First Light", and is all about early morning photos. Yours would take it out for sure.

Great pics though!

[Andrew McLaughlin]

...I bet a hundred times better in person though.

Yep. Didn't know which way to turn as it was constantly changing! The camera couldn't do it justice.

Was this on Saturday morning, perhaps?

Sorry Erik, you're right. It was Saturday morning...I must still be on Germany time!?!? :cool:

...whirlpool broadband forums, under the photography section.

Mike - have you got a link?

[Nigel C]

One of the very few things I enjoy about starting work at 0500 is the sunrises, and Andrew's right, the camera just can't do it justice.

If anyone has a boat, then I recommend shooting the Port Botany wharves on a red sunrise and mirror finish on the water. If you can get an aircraft in it too then we can keep this thread on topic!:D

[Mike S]

Mike - have you got a link?

This should work mate.

Here (http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1192972)

[Brenden S]

Andrew, you diehard. Get off a plane, then do some spotting and then head home.....

[Mick F]

One of the things I thoroughly enjoy about my job, is because of the unusual working hours, you get to see some of the best sunrises and sunsets from the air. Sunset at FL240 is just spectacular, :).

Mick

[Gerard M]

The Fedex MD 11 was the best.

Steve

Did anyone get a shot of this ones approach/landing?
BTW great shot of the tower Andrew!

[Craig Murray]

That is some serious crosswind action! Also that sunrise is pretty special Andrew, very very nice indeed.

And on the subject of Tower shots, here's one I prepared earlier :D

This was taken very early on June 2nd, 1996 and it has even made it into print (AA, Sept 2000 pp62).

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/4/0/8/0020804.jpg

Ahhhhhh the golden olden days!

[David M]

Golden Olden Days... I'll get out the zimmer frame!! :eek:

David.M.

[Grahame Hutchison]

Gerard, FedEx was the first MD-11 in on Saturday afternoon and from memory had a nice little nose wheel bounce on touchdown from what appeared to be a fast approach. He then got a full length roll through to the cargo apron.

http://www.16Right.com/MessageBoard/D300-2009-05-16_207.jpg
http://www.16Right.com/MessageBoard/D300-2009-05-16_209.jpg
http://www.16Right.com/MessageBoard/D300-2009-05-16_210.jpg

[Grahame Hutchison]

This was the UPS MD-11 landing sequence, plenty of smoke of the starboard main undercarriage.

http://www.16Right.com/MessageBoard/D300-2009-05-16_021.jpg
http://www.16Right.com/MessageBoard/D300-2009-05-16_022.jpg
http://www.16Right.com/MessageBoard/D300-2009-05-16_023.jpg
http://www.16Right.com/MessageBoard/D300-2009-05-16_024.jpg
http://www.16Right.com/MessageBoard/D300-2009-05-16_025.jpg
http://www.16Right.com/MessageBoard/D300-2009-05-16_026.jpg
http://www.16Right.com/MessageBoard/D300-2009-05-16_027.jpg
http://www.16Right.com/MessageBoard/D300-2009-05-16_028.jpg
http://www.16Right.com/MessageBoard/D300-2009-05-16_030.jpg

[Andrew McLaughlin]

Andrew, you diehard. Get off a plane, then do some spotting and then head home.....

Yeah...well...my excuse is I didn't want to wake the family up too early! :rolleyes:

[Grahame Hutchison]

Thought I would try and work out the angle that the aircraft were pointing into the wind on Saturday afternoon. The scenery in the background of the photographs was not all that helpful on Google Earth, however from the beach to the threshold is around 8 Degrees. As I could see a significant portion of the starboard side of the aircraft, then it may have been as high as 14 Degrees. Open to any other thoughts on this one.

http://www.16right.com/MessageBoard/CrosswindAngle.jpg

[Mike S]

Im 99% sure i had a parcel on that UPS plane!! Needed new bits for my 1/5th scale RC Buggy :)

Very lucky, thanks to the skills of the pilots, i had no broken bits :)

[Gerard M]

Thanks for posting the ones of the FedEx MD11. Great looking plane on all those photos!

[Adam W]

Why was runway 25 not used in this case? Is it closed or was it not used due to noise abatement procedures?

[Nigel C]

Rwy 25 hasn't been available for the last 6 months due to the RESA works.

There are quite a few threads which detail the extent of the works going on there.

[Gerard M]

What were the approaches like today with all that wind? Or was it just windy where i was?

[Michael Mak]

I heard some aircrafts needed to hold on Brisbane Centre 123.4 - not sure if it is weather related. I heard the controller told one of the pilots that there was military exercise at Newcastle.

[Nigel C]

There were a couple of go-arounds due to windshear.

[Owen H]

Get ready for some more fun and games this morning.

Wind 090 at 20 gusting to 35 with showers of rain.

Could potentially put it outside crosswind limits for wet runways if it rains hard enough.

Fingers crossed it doesn't!

[Joseph D]

Oh well, it is just a few more weeks before Runway 25/07 reopens.

If we get out in time that is :eek:

[Nigel C]

I believe the fence has to be down by the 13th June, as that's when flight testing of the ILS will commence.

I believe it won't matter where your works are up to, but it will restrict the amount of time you have in a day to get it completed. We're due to get a full briefing on where it's at in the next couple of weeks.