When does 07/25 open again ?

[Matthew Chisholm]

Its been ages since I heard a aircraft overhead.

[NickN]

Opens on a limited basis in a few months time from what I understand......

[Nigel C]

It's due to be ILS flight tested from the 13th June, and then opened for business on the 15th June with restrictions (Rwy 07 avbl for arr and dep, Rwy 25 avbl for arrivals and departures with the last avbl exit at Golf-2).

[Carl F]

Can I ask a dumb question???? Why is it closed??

[David Knudsen]

Hi Carl,

You can find more info here http://yssyforum.net/board/showthread.php?t=3118 , found that one by putting "07/25" into the board's search function.

[Nigel C]

Can I ask a dumb question???? Why is it closed??

It's not 'closed' as such, but rather has pretty severe operating restrictions in place to enable the RESA (runway end safety area) to be built at the western end of Rwy 25.

As David has said, by using the search function I'm sure you'll find numerous threads on this topic. I also recommend having a squiz on the SACL website to see what it's all about.

Cheers

[Carl F]

Cheers guys

[Chris B.]

This is an extract from the latest Jeppesen amendments (EFF 4JUN).

From 15 June 2009 a Temporary Runway End Safety Area (RESA) will be provided at the western end of Rwy 07/25. The temporary RESA will be utilized until the construction of the permanent RESA structure is completed. This notification provides advance notice of the operational arrangements applicable from 15 June 2009 until 31 October 2009. More detailed information will be made available by NOTAM.

For Rwy 25 Operations a temporary runway stop end will be provided at a position 318' (97m) east of the existing runway end. The Rwy 25 stop end will be defined by red lights which will be operational at all times when Rwy 25 is in use.

Rwy 25 intersection departures will be available from Taxiways Golf 4 and Delta only. Intersection departures from Twy Bravo and Charlie available by pilot request or operational requirement. Last available exit landing Rwy 25 is Twy Golf 2.

[Jason H]

Forecast is for Westerly tending south-westerly winds tomorrow, what does anyone think the likelihood of 25 ops is for tomorrow??

[Grahame Hutchison]

Just watching Beech 300 VH-FIX on Planeplotter, looks like it is performing calibration of the Runway 25 ILS. After the approach on Runway 25 they are turning right on the Runway 16R centreline and tracking up to the harbour then right and out to sea at 3300ft (Squawk 4363) for another approach.

[Gerard M]

SYDNEY TERMINAL INFORMATION VICTOR

Approach: EXP VISUAL APCH
Runway: 34L FOR ARRS, RWY 34L FOR NON JET DEPS TO THE
NW, W AND S.
RWY 16L FOR ALL OTHER DEPS
Surface Conditions: DAMP
Operational Info: SIMULTANEOUS OPPOSITE DIRECTION PARALLEL RWY OPS IN
PROG.
FLIGHT TESTING RWY 25 IN PROG

Is flight testing different from ILS calibration? Last time FIX was here the atis said ILS calibration in progress Runway **

[Grahame Hutchison]

The wording on this type of activity may depend on who is entering it for the ATIS.

They are still "Testing" or "Calibrating", for over an hour so far.

Interesting to look at on Webtrack. Looks like they were given an orbit on one approach, possibly because of conflicting traffic.

[Gerard M]

Interesting to look at on Webtrack. Looks like they were given an orbit on one approach, possibly because of conflicting traffic.

Its funny i watched the replay of that orbit and from the looks of things the only thing that was half-way even close was REX123 departing but on the first pass it was so much closer to a bigger plane so not sure what it would have been? Too high maybe?

[Paul Hunter]

No, Auscal broke off their approach due to a glitch in their calibration equipment. Run had to be redone. A tiring day aerodrome controlling with Auscal interspersed amongst the arrivals and departures.

Hopefully 25 was completed this afternoon so it may be used from tomorrow.

Next Sat/Sun Runway 07.

However by then I'll be lying on a beach somewhere in the South Pacific.:)

Regards.

[Adam P.]

However by then I'll be lying on a beach somewhere in the South Pacific

That's the spirit, Paul!!!!

Incidentally, did I hear someone mention that FIX broke down yesterday??

[Mark T]

I was watching VH-FIX doing its work today. As you can see from the attached, quite a few circuits.

Cheers
Mark

[Nigel C]

Forecast is for Westerly tending south-westerly winds tomorrow, what does anyone think the likelihood of 25 ops is for tomorrow??

I can pretty much guarantee that Rwy 07/25 will have some use tomorrow. In fact I'd just about put the house on it!

[Paul Hunter]

G'Day Adam,

Yes, FIX had some instrument problems yesterday so only certain runs could be done. They finished off the rest today.

Regards.

[Jon B]

Landing last Wednesday morning into Syd there was a reasonably good westerly cross wind. Will see which runway we land on tommorow (Monday 16/6) morning.

[Nigel C]

The runway will be used between 0600-0700 and then from 1900-2300 unless there is a forecast x-wind of more than 20kts on the parallel runways, in which case it might be used more often.

The forecast for tomorrow doesn't suggest 20+kt winds in any direction, but there is a forecast for 30% chance of a fast clearing fog between 0100 and 0900.

[KrishnaM]

Nigel was spot on im pretty sure i saw a few take off this morning over rockdale while walking to the station..

Scared me as I didnt realise they were starting to use this as of today..

[Gerard M]

From web trak it looks like there were about 4 of 25 around 630.

[Phil M]

25 was used for deaptures today. All departures before 7am used it except for one for Perth. It was "interesting" to have it back and be using it for departures again.

[Gerard M]

25 looks like its going to be used for arrivals in a short while.

FM TIME 1 0 5 0, EXP RWY 25 FOR ARRS

Its now 25 for arrivals and 16L & R for departures.

[Lee G]

How long will it be before all the equipment is removed and the hill at the St George end of the runway is accessable again - or has the vantage point been lost forever?

[Mario Facchini]

freaked me out tonight, Sitting on the laptop and all of a sudden i hear the roar of a Qantas 737 screaming in on approach to rwy25 !!!

Love it !!!!

Wonder if the big boys will use 25 on saturday mornings

[Nigel C]

How long will it be before all the equipment is removed and the hill at the St George end of the runway is accessable again - or has the vantage point been lost forever?

Lee, I think all that is part of the de-sal works at the moment. They're only laying pipe there, so I can't see why it wouldn't become publicly accessible again.

Mario, it'll probably be used for departures only unless the winds (or perhaps traffic density) dictate otherwise.

[Nigel C]

Just an update...

The Rwy 25 RESA project is now complete after over 18 months of delicate construction works, with Rwy 07/25 going back to full unrestricted operations as of 0600 tomorrow morning (April Fools Day...).

There will no longer be traffic lights for the perimeter roadway that goes under the SWSOOS, allowing continuous traffic flow between the NW and SW sectors.


The new RESA tunnel is quite an impressive structure...anhyone who does a tarmac tour before they are wound up will get to see first hand the size of the project.

[Paul McFarlane]

Well they're certainly giving it a good go tonight... :)

[Grahame Hutchison]

As long as no one tests the Rwy 25 RESA.

[Nigel C]

The actual RESA has been completed for a few months now...it was just the perimeter roadway that travels underneath it that wasn't.

[Grahame Hutchison]

Interesting ATC this afternoon....

Aircraft: Why are you using Runway 25

ATC: Short Answer, because we can.

ATC: Long Answer, because of noise share mode, and the 18 months of work at the western end has been completed.