Seven Sunrise (Airline Safety)

[Peter Casey]

Hi All,

Just been viewing the article on the Web Site that was featured this morning on CH 7, about the Safest Airlines.

I would have thought Singapore Airlines would have been on the Safest List too.

Anyone saw this on Ch 7 .

Rgds

Peter

[Ryan N]

http://au.lifestyle.yahoo.com/b/sunrise/29195/worlds-safest-and-least-safe-airlines/

[Andrew P]

I would have thought Singapore Airlines would have been on the Safest List too.

dont foregt SQ 747 crash in Taipie in October 2000 with 83 deaths, also the SilkAir crash in Indonesia with all 104 fouls lost

[Nigel C]

I presume you mean souls?

[Owen H]

Singapore Airlines marketing people have done wonders in having them appear as one of the safest airlines.

Its amazing how their incidents never seem to make the news ;) I can think of Taipei as well as a few tailstrikes with interesting outcomes.

I'm certainly not saying they are unsafe, but they have had their fair share of "interesting" situations, most of which you won't hear about.

Even then, as with the Emirates recent event, the media here are also very selective with which airlines they turn the spotlight on.

[Bruce Bramwell]

Qantas had had its fair share of 'safety' breaches.... So has southwest, even AirNZ with its Erubus...

Wonder how they came up with this list though?

[Bruce Bramwell]

Oh this is just gold...

who the hell is Geoffrey Thomas? how much did he get pay from QANTAS?

[Brenden S]

Aviation expert cough cough Aviation TOOL is more like it
Hmm Qantas having no fatalities is a bit misleading. Yes perhaps since the jet era.
Irresponsible engineers. Hmm another misleading fact why would engineers be so irresponsible?

Hmm When a aircraft goes O/S there are task cards that are made for the inspection and that's all they do unless there are some big defects, all the other defects get missed..... I wonder why its rather cheap to get it done O/S

Oh and for the unsafe, who fly's in North Korea anyway?
Garuda investing in new aircraft. Has anyone seen the state of the aircraft that come to Australia in the first place?

Hmm I wonder how many more emails I have to send to the West Australian correcting the so call Mr Expert? I do recall sending a few about the Air France debacle....

[Brenden S]

Andrew there was more to that story than what was reported. Also perhaps you best check up on the story. There was 2 AME's that posed as LAME's.

[Ash W]

Nah that is not a case of being irresponsible, that is a case of the individuals acting in a missleading way. Qantas or any other company for that matter cannot be held responsible if someone does that, there are not the resources anywhere to verify the true identity and qualifications of every employee.

[damien b]

Then doubly irresponsible? Why was Tim McCormack only charged and jailed if there were two? No media reports indicate there were two, just him?

The other case is i believe still before the courts and was reported in the media - it was the first case revealed.

[D Chan]

there are a number of ways to work out how 'safe' an airline is - but you will have to be a fly in the wall in all of them to really know. It is possible to compare a number of different measures but no airlines would be willing to let these info out. And at the end of the day it will be comparing apples with oranges anyway.

The results he provided may have come from fatality rates (over number of flights), number of deaths, number of accidents, accident rates, number of incidents, number of inflight shut downs, number of tech-related diversions, safety culture and so forth. Adding to this the result also depends on the period / years sampled, e.g. Delta L1011 crash, Lufthansa 747-100 crash, Mt Erebus for Air New Zealand etc.

If he doesn't show how he came about this conclusion he shouldn't be taken seriously, even though gut instinct tells you the list is probably not too far off.

[Brenden S]

There was 2 guys. It was in the media.