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David Knudsen
29th November 2009, 10:01 PM
From aviation safety network - http://aviation-safety.net

Also on CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/11/27/china.plane.crash/index.html)

Date: 28 NOV 2009
Time: 08:14
Type: McDonnell Douglas MD-11F
Operator: Avient Aviation
Registration: Z-BAV
C/n / msn: 48408/457
First flight: 1990
Engines: 3 Pratt & Whitney PW4460
Crew: Fatalities: 3 / Occupants: 7
Passengers: Fatalities: 0 / Occupants: 0
Total: Fatalities: 3 / Occupants: 7
Airplane damage: Destroyed
Airplane fate: Written off (damaged beyond repair)
Location: Shanghai-Pudong International Airport (PVG) (China)
Phase: Takeoff (TOF)
Nature: Cargo
Departure airport: Shanghai-Pudong International Airport (PVG/ZSPD), China
Destination airport: Bishkek-Manas International Airport (FRU/UAFM), Kyrgyzstan
Flightnumber: 324
Narrative:
A McDonnell Douglas MD-11F cargo plane, operated by Avient Aviation, was destroyed when crashed and burned on takeoff from Shanghai-Pudong International Airport (PVG), China. Three crew members were fatally injured and four survived the accident. Press reports indicate that the tail struck the runway before the airplane crashed past the runway end. Runway 17R/35L was briefly closed after the accident.
Weather reported about the time of the accident (00:14 UTC / 08:14 local) was reported as:
ZSPD 280000Z 36007MPS 9999 SCT020 12/07 Q1027 NOSIG= [Weather at 00:00 UTC; Wind 360 degrees at 13 knots; scattered clouds at 2000 feet; Temperature 12 degrees C, dew point 7 degrees C; QNH 1027 mb]

Paul f.
30th November 2009, 08:04 AM
This was the same aircraft that tipped on to its tail at Sydney in 2002 when with Korean Airlines as HL-7372.

NickN
30th November 2009, 10:54 AM
A gentleman at the old control tower carpark commented this a/c had not long started ops with this company, is that correct?

Mike W
30th November 2009, 11:28 AM
http://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-md11-48408.htm

Operators of the aircraft

25/01/1991 Korean Air HL7372 Ret to lessor as N988PG 12/2004

18/03/2005 VARIG Logistica PR-LGD Stored at MIA 04/2008

20/11/2009 Avient Z-BAV Crashed at Shanghai airport after takeoff 28/11/09 (3 fatalities)

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Korean-Air-Cargo/McDonnell-Douglas-MD-11(F)/0712588/&sid=1936498d7c3e30342de7d540f8fa3de3

Yes, it is... or was :eek:

NickN
30th November 2009, 11:45 AM
8 Days in service with them and then destroyed in a crash? Is there any speculation as to what caused the crash? I understand there was a tail strike but that can be overcome.

Sarah C
30th November 2009, 04:02 PM
This was the same aircraft that tipped on to its tail at Sydney in 2002 when with Korean Airlines as HL-7372.

Yep - I remember it well:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Korean-Air-Cargo/McDonnell-Douglas-MD-11(F)/0712588/M/

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Korean-Air-Cargo/McDonnell-Douglas-MD-11(F)/0220883/&sid=e1ed0b3076bf033594031d790c68eb2f

Matt_L
30th November 2009, 05:32 PM
Apparently China has banned all Chinese registered MD11s from flying.

Unconfirmed reports...

Paul f.
30th November 2009, 05:47 PM
Back in 1999 MD-11 HL-7373 of Korean Airlines also crashed on take off from Shanghai, which was the sister ship to this one which was ex HL-7372 of Korean Airlines.

Lee G
30th November 2009, 07:43 PM
Yep - I remember it well:

So do I - I have the photos of the other side of that one - where the pallet loader was unloading a vehicle from the forward main deck cargo door and the aircraft nosed up because there was no tail jack in place.

MD11 and vehicle suffered similar damage - both were panel damaged, however the car was terminal!

Nigel C
30th November 2009, 10:42 PM
and the aircraft nosed up because there was no tail jack in place.


I believe there is no provision for a tail jack on the MD-11. Either nose weights are used, or as at Sydney currently, there is nose to ground tethering available.

Lee G
30th November 2009, 11:30 PM
Good to see you back Nigel! ;)

Nigel C
1st December 2009, 12:19 AM
Did I go somewhere?;)