You don't see this anymore.

[Anthony T]

Sydney circa 1971

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2660/4213710197_e9220cf336_o.jpg

Anthony T

[Peter Agatsiotis]

Very nice Anthony. I have something similar on 8mm but BOAC 747.

I arrived in OZ Apr'72 on B747-136 G-AWNJ. (10 pound Pommie!!)

[Anthony T]

Thanks, sorry about the dust.

Here is another :

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4002/4214477772_64e24526f2_o.jpg

I arrived in July 1970 on BOAC B707 G-ARWD.

BOAC=Better On A Camel

[Sarah C]

Nice! :D That old observation deck was great and very free of obstructions. :(

[Marty H]

Thanks for sharing, Im guessing that is the QF Cargo B707 that was being talked about last week on here???

[Anthony T]

........and another

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2575/4213709951_fc77c9bc0f_o.jpg

Going to drag out the VC-10's soon.

Kids today, they grizzle about flying more than 2hrs on a narrow body jet. :rolleyes:

[Jack B]

Absolutely fantastic photos!

You should consider trying to get those onto jetphotos/airliners.net - especially the AA 707 as there are very few photos of the aicraft in SYD

Those BOAC 707's would have been nearing the end of their service to Sydney around then, fully replaced by VC10's by 1971

Does anybody know if the VC10's started operating into Sydney before the opening of the current international terminal?

[Anthony T]

Thanks for your comments, Jack.

How do I get all the dust off old slides?
My final 707 flight was in 1976 on TWA from Chicago to San Francisco.
Although I did a B720 flight from Medellin to Bogata (145 miles) on Aerocondor (HK-1974) in 1978. An interesting SID applied at Medellin, which was mainly concerned with not hitting the Andes mountains. :D

Anthony T

[Todd Steele]

Amazing photos, love the AA, do you have any Pan Am's:)

[Anthony T]

Hi there

Todd I'll check tomorrow and will post on this thread, have about 4,000 slides dating from the early 1970's. Pan Am 707's have got to be in there somewhere.


Cheers
Anthony

[Todd Steele]

Hi there

Todd I'll check tomorrow and will post on this thread, have about 4,000 slides dating from the early 1970's. Pan Am 707's have got to be in there somewhere.


Cheers
Anthony

Thanks Anthony:cool:

[Anthony T]

You should consider trying to get those onto jetphotos/airliners.net

Not interested in these sites, i'll just release pictures on this thread for the time being.

Let the kids upload to JP/AN with pics of A/C that turn up every other day.

Am I getting too old for this stuff?

Anthony T

[Grahame Hutchison]

Great shots Anthony, in the first one there are the three little houses alongside the current international standoff bays, and no old tower in the background. This was the days of the tower being where the old fire station was (near the intersection of Charlie and Golf). Visited the tower a few times back then.

Great to see the Pan Am and AA livery on the 707.

A VC10 image or two would be great to see, I remember the Captain Bristow ads on TV, with the "Hush Power" tag line, very popular ads back then.

On one of my QF 707 flights Sydney - Auckland (First Class this time) I was in the cockpit when they were taking a position reading. They would attach a sextant type instrument to a mount in the cockpit ceiling and make the readings (the good old days of navigation).

I also remember visiting the QF 707 simulator which had a model landscape and a video camera that travelled over it in line with cockpit control inputs. Very primitive but useful at the time.

[Peter Agatsiotis]

Yes Grahame, Capt Bristow.

On our 'migration flight' I posted earlier, my son (2 yo) was given a Junior Flight log which had a photo of Capt Bristow on the introduction page.
The first leg of our looong flight was recorded (up to HKG then the flight changed to BA811A)

I asked for mine (as an a/c spotter) and the young hostie 's******ed' - they're only for the kids!!!

Anthony; you may want to consider this site to upload your slides:

http://smugmug.com

It is your own site, no judging, rules etc. plus it is a backup for safekeeping in case you lose your files.

It costs $US40 (after a 14 day trial) and no limit on photos etc.

Mine are at:

http://paggsy.smugmug.com/

The good, the bad and the ugly.

I too had tried the others and too fussy. Then you find their records have cocpit views, nose at the gate, wingtip at sunset etc. Nice as they are I would rather see a picture of the actual plane.

[Jack B]

Great shots Anthony, in the first one there are the three little houses alongside the current international standoff bays, and no old tower in the background. This was the days of the tower being where the old fire station was (near the intersection of Charlie and Golf). Visited the tower a few times back then.

Great to see the Pan Am and AA livery on the 707.

A VC10 image or two would be great to see, I remember the Captain Bristow ads on TV, with the "Hush Power" tag line, very popular ads back then.

On one of my QF 707 flights Sydney - Auckland (First Class this time) I was in the cockpit when they were taking a position reading. They would attach a sextant type instrument to a mount in the cockpit ceiling and make the readings (the good old days of navigation).

I also remember visiting the QF 707 simulator which had a model landscape and a video camera that travelled over it in line with cockpit control inputs. Very primitive but useful at the time.

Are the 'Captain Bristow' ads of any relation to the "Seargant Major" BOAC VC10 ad from 1970?




In addition to the VC10, I'd like to see some Pan American 707 photographs!

[Grahame Hutchison]

Jack, I don't recall the BOAC VC-10 "Seargant Major" ads on Australian televison, but I do remember my father flying on a VC-10 from New York to Heathrow, and saying they were definitely NOT "Hush Power" if you were down the back of the aircraft near the 4 fuselage mounted engines.

[Jack B]

Jack, I don't recall the BOAC VC-10 "Seargant Major" ads on Australian televison, but I do remember my father flying on a VC-10 from New York to Heathrow, and saying they were definitely NOT "Hush Power" if you were down the back of the aircraft near the 4 fuselage mounted engines.

On the outside, VC10's were one of the loudest aircraft you'd ever come across

I would think being down the rear would be like sitting at the back of a DC-9, doubled!

Up front, I'm sure it was very quiet

[Bob C]

Hi Anthony

Thanks for sharing the photos which remind me of a glorious era.

Re dust on slides ; I have more than 12,000 slides of civil and military aircraft dating back to the late 60s and I just use a small "puffer" brush or cloth that you clean glasses with to remove the dust. Works well for me and all my slides are filed away in (not quite airtight) boxes so dust is not a major issue.

I remember the BOAC ads "With a minimum of fuss" and still have newspaper clippings from the Melbourne "Herald", "Sun" and "Age" newspapers showing these ads as well as the first Concorde visiting Melbourne with Captain Brian Trubshaw.

Like you I have no interest in uploading any of my photos to internet sites as they probably wouldn't be accepted anyway unless they were "photoshopped" out of existence which in my opinion takes away the essence of the original image which captured a moment in time.

I'm happy to show my slides to other enthusiasts at slide nights where we can drool over each others slides and enjoy a few reds and curries.

[Raymond Rowe]

I scan my slides then put them away and only ever show the digital scans.The slides then never see the light of day now have over 20,000 slides.as well as the old 1960's plus collection i am now scanning.

[Peter Agatsiotis]

Can't locate my Heathrow 707/DC8/VC10 photos. Left my 35mm camera on a London bus one day so no photos for a while. From memory the planes were quite small on the photos (no telephoto lens) but clear enough to scan if I can find them.
From the viewing deck at the original terminal 3 you would see about 30 B707/DC8/VC10 all arriving in the first hour or so. PanAm, TWA, Air Canada, BOAC, Air India etc.

Look forward to seeing some more of Anthony's slides

[Maikha Ly]

Love the photos, and echo everyone's sentiments for more to be scanned!

Out of curiousity, in the second photograph of the BOAC jet, there's a Philippines Air Lines jet in the background which I liked seeing. What jet would that be?


Thanks! :)

[Andrew P]

Pal = DC8

[Anthony T]

Still looking for the VC-10's. I'm not very organised, meanwhile.............



http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2643/4229275724_2f22db3332_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2491/4229275430_9c6e436977_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2795/4228507289_17f2a63263_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2503/4229274890_73bd8178ee_o.jpg

Cheers

[Sarah C]

Another great set of shots Anthony! I like the first one especially the background and no third runway! I also like the old brown terminals with those pathetic excuses of windows.........at least they have made progress in that front and put plenty of windows along the gates at that pier.

[Peter Agatsiotis]

I concur with Sarah, great shots despite their age.

Just as a matter of interest, what equipment are you using to scan slides?
I need to get a new printer soon and want one with a slide scan option.

[Anthony T]

Hi Peter

I use on of these scanners http://www.kaiserbaas.com/KBA03005_negative_slide_PhotoMaker.html

Cheers

[Peter Agatsiotis]

Thanks Anthony, will try DSE as I might get a new camera as well.

I don't have many airliner slides but lots of negatives to play with.

[Todd Steele]

Love the AA and Pan Am:cool::cool:

[Noel White]

Question for the BOAC experts in the group re the first photo in this threat.

The photo shows a BOAC B707 with what appears to be noise suppressors fitted to the engines not unlike the ones fitted to the first first Qantas B707-138s. I was always under the impression that BOAC's B707s were fitted with RR Conways, the same type used on their VC10s. I know that the Conways were very noisy (Hush Power ha ha) but can't remember if they were fitted with noise suppressors. Any thoughts?

[Anthony T]

Some VC-10's, might see if I have any better ones.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4033/4229084603_821926ac1c_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2641/4229853002_bc188898f3_o.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4065/4229852788_67e83148b1_o.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4056/4229852606_5fa6b7b3a8_o.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4007/4229852344_ed208537f1_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2614/4229083147_9917130b33_o.jpg

Enjoy :cool:

[Jack B]

Question for the BOAC experts in the group re the first photo in this threat.

The photo shows a BOAC B707 with what appears to be noise suppressors fitted to the engines not unlike the ones fitted to the first first Qantas B707-138s. I was always under the impression that BOAC's B707s were fitted with RR Conways, the same type used on their VC10s. I know that the Conways were very noisy (Hush Power ha ha) but can't remember if they were fitted with noise suppressors. Any thoughts?

There were differences between the conways on the 707, VC10 and DC-8-40

The turbojet variants of the 707-100/200/300 and the turbofan 707-400 all had the fairly primitive noise suppreossors.

[Jack B]

Especially love that shot of the Standard VC10 taxiing. I'm not sure if many Standards visited Sydney. They can be distinguished from the Super as the L2 door is located before the wing, instead of behind

[Marty H]

Maybe someone can help me (since were on the topic of the past) I flew with BA in 1987 Im after the regos of the aircraft all I can recall was the names of the aircraft which were City of London and City of Cardiff I flew ADL-SYD-SIN-Muscat-LHR 12/01/87 on City of London and LHR-BKK-SYD-MEL-ADL on around the 10/2/87 on City of Cardiff

Cheers.

[Paul f.]

Great shots, please post some more:) better than crap on the kid,s sites Jetphotos and Airliners net etc.

[Anthony T]

Here's a few Viscounts the first two at the Essendon dumpsite :

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4048/4229899632_f59179209a_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2689/4229131459_b982f1d5d4_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2635/4229131835_7e4ac8744e_o.jpg

Cheers

[Anthony T]

Hi there

I have got hold of the domain oldairlinerimages.com, so all current & future scans will go there, once I have worked out how to do it. Is there a VERY simple way of allowing the visitor to find what they maybe looking for, eventually the site could have up to 3000 scans. :confused:

I'll let the board know when it up the site is up and running (hopefully by Sunday)

Cheers and happy new year

Anthony

[Grahame Hutchison]

Thanks for all the work Anthony, I know how much time it takes to work through thousands of old photogaphs, scanning them and then uploading.

Appreciate your effort, it's worth it, Happy New Year.

[Pat Stevens]

Brilliant photos. What's also interesting is that nearly 40 years on, it's still taking the same amount of time (even longer?) to travel to some destinations that those beautiful aircraft were flying to. I wonder what things will be like in 2050?

[Anthony T]

Hi there

Many thanks for all the supportive posts.

I wasn't sure if anyone these days would have been really interested, it appears they are.

Maybe in 40 years, if I am still around (planning to be :D ) I could host some QF A380's on the site. :)

Cheers
Anthony T

http://www.oldairlinerimages.com

I did think of registering oldairliners.net, but another website might have been a bit miffed. :p

[Paul Hunter]

Marty,

My records show G-AWNG Boeing 747-136 "City of London"

G-BDXA Boeing 747-236B/RR "City of Cardiff"

Regards.

[David C]

Anthony ... Thanks mate for taking all that time and effort in scanning and displaying your old shots . For "oldies" like me , who have been around and spotted aeroplanes for longer than I wish to think about , these photos are like a breath of fresh air , and bring back great memories at place like Heathrow , Gatwck etc .in the 60's ... My first commercial flight was on a Viscount from Birmingham to Guernsey . I still have vivid memories of that flight ... Oh those were the days !!! ...and with your shots , you have helped rekindle those days of magic .... Well done and thanks again ..

Dave C

[Andre R.]

Anthony, thanks very much for your great shots. It is good to see the VC10
again. I should start to scan in some pictures I took from 1991-1993 - lots of
Dc-10s and some TriStars. Lets start up the scanner ...
Thanks Mate!!!

[Marty H]

Thanks Paul can now start searching a bit of history on those regos and what has become of them.

[Noel White]

Thought I might add a few old slides taken at Sydney Airport in the late 80's to the thread. Sorry about the quality but you get what you pay for.

The Ambulance on the port side of the Air Caledonia B737 was a common occurrence when people from Noumea, requiring major surgery, were flown to Sydney for hospitalisation and treatment. Notice one of Nigel's co-workers on the job. Bay 3 at the ITB, didn't have an aerobridge and was mainly used for narrow bodied a/c and passengers boarded via stairs.

The small white building to the right of the Shorts 360 (Flying Block of Flats) was the Admin office for Airlines of NSW.

Not sure who owned Eastern when these photos were taken. Somebody with a more detail history Eastern might like to comment.

Cheers,

Noel

[Nigel C]

Air Caledonia still has regular (most flights) stretcher patient transfers. So nothing's changed in that regard.

[Robert S]

Not sure who owned Eastern when these photos were taken. Somebody with a more detail history Eastern might like to comment.

Would have been Australian judging by the colour scheme. I still miss that scheme... back from the days where you could have a major Australian airline without red in its colour scheme. :rolleyes:

[Tony G]

Anthony. AMAZING. Magic photos, of a fantastic era in aviation. A slide show night would be great;). Really like the UTA, I dont remeber those colours, i remembered the blue tail and green doors. The first photo with 5 or so 707s in it bought a smile to my face, awesome.

[Clive G]

Great photos. Takes me right back. On the subject of noise, in 1965 I flew on a BOAC Comet 3 London-Rome-Khartoum-Entebbe and that was truly loud. Returned on a British United VC-10 in one hop and the difference in ambient volume was huge...

And yes, i was a member of the Junior Jet Club too... :D

[Todd Milton]

Would have been Australian judging by the colour scheme. I still miss that scheme... back from the days where you could have a major Australian airline without red in its colour scheme. :rolleyes:

Yep, all three (Sunstate, Australian Airlink and Eastern Australia) were Australian regional carriers in Australian livery. The engineering shed at work had (Or maybe it still has, not sure if it moved in the move) a large "Australian Engineering" banner hanging in the offices. Loved that Blue, Yellow and Green.

[Noel White]

Thanks, sorry about that Chief. Thinking of who owned what at the time rather than taking note of the colour scheme.

Cheers,

Noel

[Hugh Jarse]

Gidday Noel. I've flown 2 out of the 4 of those planes. The Jetstream and the Dash.

I was there from 1994. Eastern was owned by Australian Airlines until QF acqured it, and at some time before that, by a gent by the name of John Roworth. Not sure if that was so back in '88 as there may be a gap there.

[Jason Carruthers]

If I'm not mistaken Eastern Australia Airlines was founded as East Coast Airlines around the late 70's (1978 rings a bell) it was a local airline based in Tamworth? East-West brought half of the airline at some point. In 1987 when Ansett brought East-West the 50% stake was sold to Australian Airlines (I believe this was when the Eastern Australia name as adopted) A few years later Early 90's? Australian Airlines brought the remaining 50%.

[Peter Agatsiotis]

Just happen to have a photo of an East Coast Cessna 404 (interesting a/c in the background).

Was clearing out some boxes in the garage and came across Aviation Letter 251 (OCT'87).

Under Airline and Route news was:

Australian Airlines retired their three BAE31 Jetstreams (VH-TQJ/TQK/TQL) on 31/5/87!
and the best bit:
Have deferred their nine Airbus A320's on order until 1992.
Don't remember that!
I'm sure I have a photo/negative of a Jetstream in Qantas scheme with Eastern Australia titles - will go search.

[Steve Crook]

The photo of the Eastern aircraft brought back memories of flying on one from Sydeny to Williamtown via Rutherford (Maitland) either in the late 80s or very early 90s. The airfield at Rutherfors was a rather basic affair surrounded by cow paddocks as I recall. Thanks for posting the pic!

[Chris Griffiths]

........and another

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2575/4213709951_fc77c9bc0f_o.jpg

Going to drag out the VC-10's soon.

Kids today, they grizzle about flying more than 2hrs on a narrow body jet. :rolleyes:

Can't believe I hadn't seen this thread before..
Here is a shot my dad got in '65 (Mar-Apr I believe) returning from a troubling little conflict in SE Asia.
http://www.pbase.com/chrisg/image/85843805.jpg

[Peter Agatsiotis]

Great photo Chris; you can see the variation of livery between the two photo's.
Question - is that an engine pod or fuel tank?
Having started spotting at Heathrow in mid'66 I don't recall ever seeing a pod on any of the BOAC 707 fleet (that I noticed).

[Anthony T]

Here's a few more.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6201/6160158975_76531cb4af_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/alfgarnett/6160158975/)

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6062/6160699234_4f06b15dbe_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/alfgarnett/6160699234/)

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6181/6160697764_2e2a960444_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/alfgarnett/6160697764/)

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6072/6160697460_3b2e3f89ed_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/alfgarnett/6160697460/)

[Noel White]

Peter, by the size of the pod, it would have to be a fifth engine. Never seen one enclosed like the one in the photo. The other interesting thing is that these must be early model B707's as they are fitted with noise suppressors which indicates there were turbojets as distinct from turbofans. If I remember correctly the later BOAC B707s were powered by RR Conways Turbofans (same as the VC10s) and those noisy blighter's would shake the fillings from your teeth.

[Noel White]

You are right Chris, jumped in when I saw the noise suppressors and missed the under fin completely. :o

All the same, completely forgotten that the B707-420 series operated with the Conway and they were fitted with the suppressors. Senior's moment!!!!

This photo shows the configuration in a better light.

[Chris Griffiths]

Peter, by the size of the pod, it would have to be a fifth engine. Never seen one enclosed like the one in the photo.
It is indeed a 5th engine, in the mid late '60s these were a common sight around Asia as engine mx facilities were few and far between(not like today when the work is outsourced to that region) and engines were not the wonders of reliability we know today.