Tiger Aiways ponders carry-on bag fee

[Harry G]

Firstly the US....

Flew across the US and watched the morons that they can be best described literally trying to force a square peg into a round hole..eventually on one flight I actually got up and asked the moron how more times they where going to try and jam the bag into the overhead..eventually the brain dead cabin crew member thought.......yeah.......... it don't fit ... it better go underneath.

The charges......... they are like the banks.
The banks encouraged you to use your credit cards and with time, not to go into the branch and with that came the inevitable staff redundancies........ then bang.........in came all the charges for everything and there was/is not much you can do about .........except now, the banks are getting people back because the public has had enough so lets cut the crap.....
The airlines advertise cheap fares with carry on only and have done for the last few years. Now you are used to travelling light, they want to get into your pocket because it is all going onto the plane in the cabin........
Greed simple greed and whoever does not do this will be the big winner.....go Qantas, Jetstar, Virgin...........
Charging for the toilet. No big deal........you are near sitting on a near toilet seat now when you fly with these budget carriers so big deal.......
The cabin crew will have to carry more $ 2 coins........

[Andrew P]

so is Virgin Blue

Virgin Blue says it currently has no plans to charge for either toilets or overhead lockers.

per other thread

[KatieY]

Whats the point of charging for Carry On ?

[Greg McDonald]

1) Make more money for the airline.

2) Make customers think about how much they try to carry on.

[Sarah C]

Whats the point of charging for Carry On ?

Speeds up the boarding/deboarding process because people are not blocking aisles putting 2/3 bags in the overhead compartment (no one bothers using the space under thier feet)

It subconciously will reduce the carry ons, with effects such as less total baggage being carried by the customer, which means there is less weight.

[Lukas M]

Once they get this online checkin working soon I will give them 6 months before they expect us to pay for the service, same as Ryanair..

How long until we start seeing in flight lotteries, seems to have worked well for FR.

[Raymond Rowe]

Maybe if the airlines had better baggage delivery instead of waiting at time up to 30 minutes for luggage people would not carry on so much overhead luggage.

[Ash W]

Sarah strict enforcement of the current carry on baggage rules would also go a long way to eleminate this problem.

But tell you what Harry hit the nail right on the head. We get forced into doing things, revenues drop then all these extra charges come out. Another good reason to stick to the legacy carriers I say.

[Justin L]

Another good reason to stick to the legacy carriers I say.

Sticking with the US, the so called "legacy carriers" charge for all check in bags, entertainment, food, etc. The biggest LCC, Southwest, allows two checked in bags for free, and another big LCC, JetBlue, offers one free checked in bag, free inflight DirectTV (you need your own headset) and free snacks on board. So in my opinion, the major LCCs in the US domestically offer better all round service than the legacy carriers.

But the amount and size of carry-on baggage brought on board is ridiculous in the US. On an American Airlines domestic flight I was on, all of the overhead lockers were overflowing and the flight was near full. One passenger who boarded late brought on one of those oversized roller suitcases and he couldn't put it above in the lockers and he couldn't fit it under his seat, so he sat it on the middle seat. The flight crew did nothing.

I don't agree with Spirit Airlines' carry on fee and I hope Tiger doesn't follow suit.

[Will H]

A general note that has been lost: Spirit is charging people for bags that will need to go in overhead bins. Keep it under your seat and you'll be fine. Those affected will be those with larger roller bags and also those who bring more than one bag on board.

But tell you what Harry hit the nail right on the head. We get forced into doing things, revenues drop then all these extra charges come out. Another good reason to stick to the legacy carriers I say.

Forced into doing what things?

With regards to revenues dropping, there are very interesting statistics showing how the prices of flights have decreased--not even accounting for inflation--over the years. You can attribute some of that to more efficient operations, but for many carriers it means smaller profits. Thus there is a need to make up the loss.

With regards to checked luggage, there is a cost involved: fuel to fly the bag and people and equipment to move it.

I fly without checked luggage quite often and agree with airlines (and thus sway from most legacies) who say if you don't need something you shouldn't have to pay for it. Would you pay a restaurant $20 to have an extra chair at your table that no one is going to sit in? Same principle.

Sure, I could pay an extra $50 to fly Qantas over other carriers on MEL-SYD, but why not save that $50 and go out to dinner or do something else?

Disclaimer: this assumes your backyard trees aren't growing money. ;)

So in my opinion, the major LCCs in the US domestically offer better all round service than the legacy carriers.

Absolutely, and there's one of the greatest ironies in modern aviation.

[Harry G]

Absolutely right - 100% - lets not pay for something we do not need...............
So......................
When the LCC's leave you stranded at an airport, leaves hours late, then...................ask them..what am I paying for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Stephen B]

when the LCC's leave you stranded at an airport, leaves hours late, then...................ask them..what am I paying for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh what a silly question.

When you're aircraft leaves 23 hours late, and when after landing 2 hours away from your destination you're handed 4 sheets of toilet paper and half a cup of water during your 5 hour wait on the other side of the tarmac whilst your luggage is holidaying on the other sidse of the globe to where your connection took off yesterday, you're paying for "Opperational Issues". :D:D:D

[Ash W]

Forced into doing what things?

I was speaking in general rather than specifically to airlines.

Harry gave some good examples. For example banks forcing people to use cards to lower costs, then once everyone is using cards starting to introduce fee's to use cards. Whilst of course banks incur costs to provide this service, back in my day banks recovered costs by lending the money you banked with them to other people. Today they still lend your money or invest it, but they now also charge you for the service they give. Then when their investments fail and the profit to the shareholders drop they raise the fees!

With airlines many, especially the US ones have been encouraging people to bring more and more on-board baggage over the past few years to save them the cost of handling the baggage. Indeed many have installed larger bins to do this, and have much higher allowances than non us airlines. AA for example allows 18KG of cabin baggage, yet Qantas and most non us airlines the limit is about 7KG (per bag). Now the airlines want to charge for the mess THEY created. So no matter what you do you have to pay. At least with the legacy airlines the cost is included and is not disgusied, as it seems to be for many LCC's.

[Harry G]

Stephen B - to the top of the class please - you have the writers award for the week
well done mate!

[Harry G]

All the "we have a choice" posters would now be putting on their asbestos gloves to start spraying all the knockers.......

the whole airline thing is becoming a joke quite frankly.......
cut the crap and get to the point..........
a leading aviation expert predicted over 2 years ago the absolutely stupid fares posted by some of these mismanaged airlines are unsustainable and we now see it.........$ 19 -a round of beers cost you more and we are paying $1.39 per litre for petrol.....so when they fly 32 pax to hobart at $ 19 - do the sums......hence we have cancellations and the whole dog chasing its own tail scenario starts...... limited pax - no flights, angry stranded pax, dont fly with airline again etc etc etc
so some bright spark from one of the mismanaged airlines who gets up in the morning and says.........mmmmmmm how can we get some more money......I know.......... we will impose a charge for us getting them to where they want to go..thats a good idea.we can charge them the $ 19 to sit on the plane and we can charge then another $ 60 to get them there (lets hope).......what a great idea!!
think about that.....
how much money could they make??

simply............ our population cannot sustain 4 main domestic carriers and all TT is doing is sending JQ to the wall as is JQ trying to do the same to TT....
look at the newest strategy form these giants.......
JQ at Avalaon TT now going there........
this "shed" in the middle of nowhere during the week would have cabin perhaps 50% full on $ 40 fares???
thats a bright money making excercise isn't it!
a secondary airport that servcies a city of what 100,000 (sorry do not know the population of geelong)........
back to the model of these LCC's.....fly to secondaty airports like in europe......... you morons........ europe secondary airports service cities with million populations......manchester, gatwick etc etc

QF and DJ will sit back, particulalry DJ and jsut wipe up the mess that will remain!

[Adam P.]

I was flabbergasted the other day while booking an internal flight in the UK. GBP6 'check in fee'... or GBP3 'online check-in fee'. Work that one out! Then add the checked bag fee (that one I can live with), booking fee, credit card fee and there was one more that I forget now. Anyway. GBP4.99 became GBP45 very quickly.

I was floored to cop an unavoidable charge for checking in though.

[Ash W]

Adam Sleazyjet are shockers for quoting a cheap price, but when you go to book all the extras then become default enabled options. You have to read each and every item very carefully and make sure you de-select every item you don't want. Travel insurance is one they add and try to hide.

Harry you forgot a charge. How about a fuel surcharge. You know the price is high, so rather than factor that into the price how about airlines charge everyone. Oh yeah forgot they already do that, all of em.

[Adam P.]

This was some mob called 'Jet2', or something. Leeds - Belfast.

[Kent Broadhead]

Ahhh, Jet2 - the home of a bunch of ex-Ansett 733s.....

[Harry G]

Adam Sleazyjet are shockers for quoting a cheap price, but when you go to book all the extras then become default enabled options. You have to read each and every item very carefully and make sure you de-select every item you don't want. Travel insurance is one they add and try to hide.

Harry you forgot a charge. How about a fuel surcharge. You know the price is high, so rather than factor that into the price how about airlines charge everyone. Oh yeah forgot they already do that, all of em.

When in the US recently ,I took a flight over Grand Canyon in a suicide machine...... we all got weighed to work out our seating position..actually whilst I think of it.... one guy said to his "fat" mate after he weighed in....... hey your seat is in the terminal and not the plane tubby...well it was funny at the time......
Someone touched on it....... to be truly fare.....(fair) we should be weighed and measured and then converted like freight to cubic metres/kilos....... that way....... big pays more, little pays less......
Check in could be a problem as your mates might stand on the scales......
and trick you

Let's be serious..... if the airlines could find a way to charge you for thinking about flying, they would!
Problem is folks......... like the various governments around the world.......mismanged by absolute morons and their mistakes become our problems.........

And whilst these incompetents keep charging the ludicrous fares that they do and cry that they are NOT making money (yes morons - you need to charge more money you morons - thats a simple equation) they will keep adding the chargeable add ons......
how do you rid your self of them....... dont fly with them! and................ support the Aussie product!