Qantas To Go Daily MEL-LHR, 6x MEL-LAX, Daily SYD-JNB

[Will H]

Little surprise, I suppose. Does anyone know the approximate times of the A380 deliveries?

ADELAIDE, 31 May 2010: Qantas today announced that it would introduce daily A380 services between Melbourne and London and six A380 services per week between Melbourne and Los Angeles.

At present, two return services between Melbourne and London via Singapore each week are operated by the Qantas A380. This will increase to five services a week after Qantas’ eighth A380 is delivered, six services a week after its ninth is delivered and daily services when its tenth A380 arrives. Melbourne-Los Angeles services operated by the A380 will increase to four a week with the delivery of Qantas’ ninth A380 and to six a week after its tenth is delivered.

And beef up the competition with V?
ADELAIDE, 31 May 2010: Qantas today announced it would move to a daily schedule on its Sydney – Johannesburg route from 21 September 2010.

Qantas Chief Executive Officer, Mr Alan Joyce, said the Qantas South African route was a key route for the airline and the addition of a seventh service provides Qantas customers with greater flexibility for travel between Australia and South Africa.

[Sarah C]

And beef up the competition with V?

Not really. They were given permission by the Air Services Commission back in Feb to go daily. They were just waiting for the A380's 7 and on to arrive to free up a 747 to operate that extra service.

[Malcolm Parker]

Also with these changes.
SYD-MNL and SYD-BNE-MNL from NOV 2010 will switch from 767 to A330 aircraft...... about time but no word on SYD-HNL as yet.

[Andrew P]

SYD-MNL from 767 to A330 aircraft...... .

about bloody time

[Stuart Trevena]

Hi All,

What about starting a 744 to ops MEL to JNB, say 3x week?
Or Even Jetstar A332 to JNB via PER?

Stuart

[Malcolm Parker]

Not likely given V Australia has started this route now.

If anything from Melbourne starts from QF it will be back to PVG.

[Brad Myer]

Also this week QantasLink announced it will begin its first Intl route.

12x weekly CNS-POM-CNS services using the Q400s. The flights connect with QF domestic services to/from SYD, MEL, and BNE.

Thanks

[James Smith]

For Sydney services, the QANTAS media release of 31 May, 2010 also said that:

"Qantas currently has six A380s in service. It expects to take delivery of its seventh in the final quarter of 2010, enabling Sydney-London A380 services to go daily, and to have received the tenth aircraft by March 2011."

[Andrew M]

Not likely given V Australia has started this route now.

If anything from Melbourne starts from QF it will be back to PVG.

I wouldn't say that..

Qantas like making life difficult for V Australia so adding MEL-JNB would do that very nicely!

[Arthur T]

It seems the speculated SYD - HKG A380 service won't come until Q2/3 2011 then if Qantas is trying to make SYD & MEL - LAX & LHR (via SIN) to be a fully A380 service first. Perhaps when its 11th airplane comes we could see it flying between HKG & SYD Daily?

I just trying to respond to the previous rumour that Qantas is start training pilots to fly A380 to HKG & BKK.

However it would be a good move to beat V Australia in providing a better service to LA and South Africa.

[Montague S]

However it would be a good move to beat V Australia in providing a better service to LA and South Africa.

Arthur, just explain to us indolent souls how better aircraft on a route equates to better service? I had no idea Boeing or Airbus gave service onboard..

[Andrew P]

For those indolent souls, I will give you a simple example

As below, QF is upgrading the MNL run to A330s

Currently it is a QF 767 (no AVOD etc) vs. PR with 777s (AVOD) vs. SQ (A380 then 777 -albeit with a stop)

A number of my mates have abandoned QF on the MNL run, just because of the old 767s used by QF

With the upgrade to A330, a number will now move back to QF.

Simple

[Andrew M]

Agreed!

Not that hard to work out that a new 777/A380/A330 will get more people on-board than an old 767.

Same line of thought with the A380, more people prefer to fly and choose to fly the A380 over the 747.

[Jarden S]

Will H you could change the title of this thread and put Daily SYD-JNB

[Montague S]

Agreed!

Not that hard to work out that a new 777/A380/A330 will get more people on-board than an old 767.

Same line of thought with the A380, more people prefer to fly and choose to fly the A380 over the 747.

so the service will be far better if I use VA to JNB rather than QF?

[Michael Mak]

Not that hard to work out that a new 777/A380/A330 will get more people on-board than an old 767.

That's down to whether the airline chooses to upgrade the service offered on their plane.

ANA 767
http://www.airliners.net/photo/All-Nippon-Airways/Boeing-767-381-ER/1458443/L/

QF 767
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Qantas/Boeing-767-338-ER/1535948/L/

[Greg McDonald]

Most people, apart from us aero-geeks, don't give a damn what aircraft type they are on. Nor would they even know how to find out. They simply pick an airline and a day to travel....thats it!! So basically this whole argument about prettier planes = more passengers is rubbish!!

[Andrew P]

some comments from another board, not aviation, proves your theory wrong



What a crock o **** the dinosaur 767 is.......Not to mention the **** poor food, service & what they call in flight entertainment.

About bloody time

good news i stopped using qantas & moved to PAL because of the **** planes qantas uses

I don't mind the 767, they might be old but they are a reliable old bus.

Last time I flew with QF to manila it was business class, which of course is nicer then economy but the TV screen were still smaller then SQ economy with less entertainment options

What I do care about is that finally we will have individual entertainment units in our seats. Airbus planes are so much more pleasurable to fly in than Boeing planes.

I like the a330 but have to fly cattle class

[Montague S]

Doesn't prove anything, just the fact that you can cut n paste some quotes, service is something delivered by a human being to another, if you think that because you will be on a better plane that it will equal better service from the hostie then I disagree, what you going to do when you have a bad crew? Swim there??

[Andrew P]

Montague

Suggest you read the prior post that it refers to, it has nothing to do with your posts on this topic.

if it had related to your post, I would have been quoted it.

Banjo

[Garry Emanuel]

Is the schedule for delivery and route allocation any further advanced ?

Interested in 7, 8, 9 and 10 and the impact that might have on plans for SYD-LAX.

[Oliver Gigacz]

Here is the current delivery schedule. (Sorry don't have route allocation)

7th (MSN047) - December 2010
8th (MSN050) - January 2011
9th (MSN055) - Late January 2011
10th (MSN062) - March 2011

[Garry Emanuel]

Thanks Oliver.

Now, any guidance from those in the know on which routes these will be deployed on ?

Will they:-

bolster Syd-Sin-Lhr to daily from Syd ?
bolster Syd/Mel-Lax to daily ?
shift 744 off QF107/108 and replace with 388
commence Syd-Hkg or Syd-???

I am certain some of the answers will have already been covered in other posts - I am equally mindful that the goalposts move regularly and what was "in vogue" two months ago is now most likely "ancient history".

Thanks in advance.

[matthew mcdonald]

I am pretty sure that for at least the QF 107/108 flight, the A330-200 is being used from now on?

Somebody in the know can confirm that.

[Jason H]

As far as I know, the A330-200 will stay on QF107/108 LAX-JFK-LAX.

As for the 380 routes, aren't they meant to increase MEL-LAX 6x a week and MEL-LHR daily.

[Oliver Gigacz]

As far as I know, the A330-200 will stay on QF107/108 LAX-JFK-LAX.

As for the 380 routes, aren't they meant to increase MEL-LAX 6x a week and MEL-LHR daily.

Yes, I think this is correct.

[Adam W]

Just to clear a few things up.
From Qantas.com in March.
Once the 10th A380 arrives there will be:
Daily A380 MEL-SIN-LHR (QF 9)
6 weekly A380 MEL-LAX (QF 93)
Daily A380 SYD-SIN-LHR (QF 31)

No mention of SYD-LAX but I think QF 11 will also go daily. Once the next batch of A380s arrive then they will look at other routes such as HKG.

Regarding the QF 107/108 the SYD-LAX sector is still operated by a 744, the 322 only operates the LAX-JFK sector.

[Jarden S]

I thought the 322 operates AKL-LAX-JFK and return now five days a week I believe.

[Gareth U]

The 332 ops

QF141 SYD-AKL x 6pw (Sun flight ops Aus-based 73H).
QF25 AKL-LAX Daily
QF107 LAX-JFK x 5pw

Hope that helps.

[Paul Green]

Just to clear a few things up.

No mention of SYD-LAX but I think QF 11 will also go daily. Once the next batch of A380s arrive then they will look at other routes such as HKG.

It's already daily! :cool:

[Garry Emanuel]

Thanks all.

[Brad Myer]

According to some, B744s will be back on the AKL-LAX and JFK routes from later this year.

Which I guess it makes sense... QF have 3 A380s due soon which will then free up 3 B744s to move back onto the AKL-LAX and LAX-JFK routes.

This will then free up intl A330s to be used else where. Joyce has already hinted at increasing services to Asia with HKG, PVG, and NRT all performing well.

[Oliver Gigacz]

Will Qantas ever consider flying MEL-NRT or MEL-PVG again?

[Gary B]

Regarding the LAX-JFK sector, the A330 Fleet Manager posted on his blog of 5th August that as of December 2nd, the A330 would operate 6 flights per week. No mention of 744 aircraft returning to the route. All the flights I have operated between AKL & LAX and return have had between 2 & 8 spare seats. A great load factor for a 5 tonne per hour A330 but not so good for a 10 tonne per hour B744. The route is now profitable which it wasn't before the equipment change.

[Jarden S]

Will Qantas ever consider flying MEL-NRT or MEL-PVG again?

I think Qantas are only focused on Sydney.