Tiger Announces Avalon - Gold Coast, Adelaide & Perth Services

[Oliver Gigacz]

Tiger has announced that there first service from Avalon will be to the Gold Coast starting on November 10th. Additional routes are expected to be announced later in the month.

http://tigerairways.com.au

[Jason Carruthers]

TT6934 AVV OOL 0645 0745
TT6935 OOL AVV 1220 1535

Launch fares $45

[Steve Jones]

Schedule leaves a nice gap just big enough to fit something like an OOL-CBR in, or maybe another OOL-SYD

[Jarden S]

Or even a OOL-NTL run

[Harry G]

Schedule leaves a nice gap just big enough to fit something like an OOL-CBR in, or maybe another OOL-SYD

put your money on it - 2 planes - will try same routes as JQ

[Adam.S]

Terrible departure time, personally I wouldn't use Avalon before 7:30am.
I can't see leisure travellers using this flight....too early.
Would business travellers use Avalon ahead of Tulla?

[Donald H]

TT6934 AVV OOL 0645 0745
TT6935 OOL AVV 1220 1535

Launch fares $45

1 hour up & 3 1/4 back. Must be strong southerlies? :D

[Phillippe M]

Daylight Savings I would assume since the flights don't start till November.

[Andrew M]

Terrible departure time, personally I wouldn't use Avalon before 7:30am.
I can't see leisure travellers using this flight....too early.
Would business travellers use Avalon ahead of Tulla?

Leisure travellers who fly Tiger, will fly at whatever time gives them a cheap fare.

I wouldn't use Avalon EVER, nor Tiger for that matter.

[Ricky T]

The other question is where the plane will be heading after it returns to AVV? Surely they can squeeze a couple or a few flights there.

SYD? ADL? CNS? PER? The possiblities are endless...

[Oliver Gigacz]

I would say they will add the AVV-SYD.

[Rhys Xanthis]

The other question is where the plane will be heading after it returns to AVV? Surely they can squeeze a couple or a few flights there.

SYD? ADL? CNS? PER? The possiblities are endless...

Hopefully not PER...otherwise the 10% Jetstar price beat will be useless for MEL flights!

[Ricky T]

I would say they will add the AVV-SYD.

IMHO, it would be silly to add a SYD service as there are four JQ flights already and the yields are fairly low. I am sure they don't want to drive it any lower.

Actually, if you look at the TT website very carefully (scroll down towards the bottom of the page where all the terms and conditions are), it states that the next route from AVV would be CNS.

***Flights to and from Cairns and Melbourne - Avalon are subject to regulatory approval.

Interstingly, the above asteriks are placed next to the OOL flights from AVV and the CNS flights from MEL. Does this mean TT is shifting their CNS flights from MEL to AVV?

[Justin L]

Ricky T,

I think the wording "Flights to and from Cairns and Melbourne - Avalon are subject to regulatory approval" is referring any/all flights to/from both destinations separately and not as a joint city pair.

i.e.
Flights to and from Cairns and flights to and from Melbourne - Avalon are subject to regulatory approval (irrespective of where the flights to and from these airports originate or terminate).

[Kain C]

Adl-avv 1010-1155
avv-adl 1230-1320

avv-per 0605-0710 (only Mon,Wed,Fri,Sun)
per-avv 0740-1405

[Jarden S]

From travelweekly:
Tiger Airways has announced
two more routes from Avalon
with the carrier naming Perth
and Adelaide as the latest
destinations to be served from
its newest base.
It follows confirmation
earlier this week that the
Gold Coast would be served
from Avalon from
November 10.
Avalon to Adelaide will
also start from November 10
with f lights from Avalon to
Perth launching on
November 12.
Tickets go on sale today.
Prices start from $25 one
way to the South Australian
capital and from $95 to
Western Australia.
The expansion follows the
announcement earlier this
week that Tiger would double
the number of A320 aircraft
in Melbourne to 10, bringing
its total f leet in Australia
to 13.
Tiger Australia managing
director Crawford Rix said
“more and more Australians
are voting with their feet”
and flying with the carrier.
The Avalon to Adelaide
route will pitch Tiger directly
against Jetstar.

[Stefan Perkas]

From travelweekly:
Tiger Australia managing
director Crawford Rix said
“more and more Australians
are voting with their feet”
and flying with the carrier.
The Avalon to Adelaide
route will pitch Tiger directly
against Jetstar.

But JQ don't fly AVV-ADL anymore. unless I am missing the point of this quote. 2 years ago the moved to Tulla. For Adelaide they are really pitiching against Sharp Airlines who go ADL-AVV via Portland.

[Harry G]

ALL these destinations just in time for the holiday rush.......
lets see whether they are still at these destinations in the quiter months LIKE DJ/QF/and JQ..........
Darwin, Newcastle to name two that TT "flew" away from sighting "airport costs".......have they now reduced???

OTP ............!!!

[Harry G]

01 Dec 10, Wed TT 6272 AVV 06:05 hrs PER 07:10 hrs

thats ok if you want to get to the airport at 4.30am in the morning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! then hope the thing is leaving on time as there is sweet nothing to do at AVV unlike MEL if the plane is hours late!!!!!!!

01 Dec 10, Wed TT 8243 AVV 12:30 hrs ADL 13:20 hrs

ok if you want to go in the middle of the day!!!!!!!

[Jarden S]

When both A320s are based in AVV they could end up a fair amount of flying from that airport. Would the ADL, OOL and PER use up 1 aircraft? For the 2nd it could be HBA, NTL and SYD. It will be interesting to see where it goes.

[Lukas M]

Big announcements will follow over the coming days.

MEL-ASP/MKY/ROK is to be moved to Avalon (to free up more room at Tulla as these routes are not as competitive), and AVV-SYD should be announced sooner or later and its going to be 2 daily (flight times are around 11am/2pm and 9am/5pm on the return)

-AVV-MKY is to moved back to 4 daily and will op in the evening.
-AVV-ASP/ROK will be 3w, with ROK to be an evening run.
-Goodbye ADL-HBA
-MEL-CNS possibly going daylight
-Bookings on AVV-OOL have broken records apparently and the route is to become 2 daily (no joke lol)

Some of the above does make me wonder though...If they jump on AVV-BNE then JQ would be pretty much screwed.

[Stefan Perkas]

Thats 3 airlines that have now failed on the ADL-HBA flight. JQ failed first with B717's and A320's that was 3-4years ago, DJ failed with B737's and E190's last year. Now TT failed, That is sad, You would think with no competition TT would win.

[Oliver Gigacz]

Just say if all these services stay for a year. How many passengers could go through Avalon? According to Wikipedia 1,400,000 went through Avalon last year and that was just Jetstar and Sharp?

[Harry G]

Big announcements will follow over the coming days.

MEL-ASP/MKY/ROK is to be moved to Avalon (to free up more room at Tulla as these routes are not as competitive), and AVV-SYD should be announced sooner or later and its going to be 2 daily (flight times are around 11am/2pm and 9am/5pm on the return)

-AVV-MKY is to moved back to 4 daily and will op in the evening.
-AVV-ASP/ROK will be 3w, with ROK to be an evening run.
-Goodbye ADL-HBA
-MEL-CNS possibly going daylight
-Bookings on AVV-OOL have broken records apparently and the route is to become 2 daily (no joke lol)

Some of the above does make me wonder though...If they jump on AVV-BNE then JQ would be pretty much screwed.

will be of interest what TT will do with the free room at Tulla...... Broome perhaps more frequency to DRW now that JQ is reported to be grumbling about fees like TT did a number of years ago and JQ jumped in.....
they are as bad as each other but I will say, a betting man just might put some outside money on TT starting to worry JQ.......especialyy also when you read, local pilots with QF are talking anger about JQ decision to go longhaul from Asian hubs..........they say an attempt to flout Aussie employment laws........mmmm..... maybe Singapore Airline just might be staying on board with TT and really steeping it up, particularly with the new GM.......
maybe AVV will be a success for TT as they really want the 2nd airport model which AVV is -
AVV BNE someone mentioned for TT scaring JQ...... it will gice them a scare but depends on times.......TT needs some good times but rumour has it JQ will step up SYD and BNE and if this is the case - that will bump TT ........

at the end of the day, AVV is a second choice airport and frequencies are out of Tullamarine

[Kain C]

Goodbye ADL-HBA

Why would they operate ADL-HBA all through winter (low) season, only to drop it just in time for peak season???? With HBA-MEL only showing a second daily on Tue,Thu,Sat (arguably the weakest three days of the week), I think there is more to come for HBA. Maybe MEL-HBA-ADL-HBA-MEL on Mon,Wed,Fri,Sun or even MEL-HBA-OOL-HBA-MEL?

[Lukas M]

True Kain, I guess the previous Managing Director (who had no interest in these small routes) will leave the future of that route with the newbie, so you could be right. New Management, new decisions, and by looking at the return of the direct ROK/MKY runs, it wont surprise me either.

Loads have been pretty awful on that route on some days. It would be make more sense to go HBA-SYD than to Adelaide, which isn't really losing much aircraft time.

[Kain C]

Tasmania state budget tomorrow, so maybe some funds for TT? Also, the new HBA landing charges agreement is due to be finalised by June 30, so TT might wait until this is done before committing to new services?

[Kain C]

The only ways that TT can do AVV-BNE are either as a red-eye (unlikely) or from an aircraft that operates ???-BNE-AVV-BNE-???, since the 2 AVV based aircraft are already fully accounted for during normal hours. Maybe they wanted to do AVV-BNE where the second (evening) AVV-OOL is now, but changed their mind?