JQ Domestic Changes

[Kain C]

Look for some upcoming announcements from JQ for new domestic services. Some changes that I've noticed on the incomplete schedules for NW10 are firstly, the ADL-PER-ADL rotation has gone, with the ADL-PER and PER-ADL flight now operated by different aircraft, one of which either overnights in PER or does a redeye (PER-OOL?) after the evening ADL-PER run. There would have to be some sort of triangular route here to get the crew back to base, otherwise they could pax back on some other service. The aircraft that does the PER-ADL will either overnight in ADL (are they re-opening a base there?), or more likely goes somewhere else also quite late at night, again in a triangular pattern. Secondly, from Jan 2, there seems to be a new A320 in the system, operating SYD-OOL-SYD but then nothing else after that so far. Some time changes to other routes, like MEL-TSV departing first thing from MEL rather than in the afternoon, the first OOL-NTL-OOL seems to be operated either by an OOL based A320, or maybe if they start PER-OOL as above, then this aircraft rotates through that way. Finally, JQ have moved their final HBA-MEL to the wonderful time of a 10PM departure from HBA, so they have obviously learnt nothing from when they had the midnight special on HBA-BNE a few years ago before they dropped it in favor of LST-BNE! LST-MEL does quite well with JQ and QF, with extra DH3 services on LST-MEL over Dec/Jan on top of the additional JQ 320, on top of the additional JQ 320 on LST-SYD, where as HBA gets shafted yet again, despite consistently having a significantly higher LF% on flights compared with LST.

[Tim Bowrey]

the first OOL-NTL-OOL seems to be operated either by an OOL based A320.

Hey Kain,

The first OOL-NTL-OOL service is a MEL crew who fly MEL-OOL as JQ436(i think) then do the OOL-NTL-OOL 491/490 then back to MEL and the second daily NTL-OOL-NTL-MEL-NTL is a Newy crew.

[Brad Myer]

Apparently BNE-PER-BNE Is on the cards from the end of the year. Also BNE-ADL-BNE moves to a morning service, with BNE-LST-BNE moving to the middle of the day.

[Kain C]

Hey Kain,

The first OOL-NTL-OOL service is a MEL crew who fly MEL-OOL as JQ436(i think) then do the OOL-NTL-OOL 491/490 then back to MEL and the second daily NTL-OOL-NTL-MEL-NTL is a Newy crew.

Yes, but that all changes come NW10. That MEL-OOL service departs MEL at 0935, where as the first OOL-NTL departs OOL at 0800, so definitely a different aircraft.

BNE-PER-BNE sounds interesting Brad. Also, I noticed the BNE-ADL and BNE-LST changes, but forgot to write them down when I got carried away with my HBA rant!

[Jarden S]

The suggestion of a PER-OOL-PER run would be good for Jetstar and fill a gap in the network. Also a twice weekly OOL-HBA-OOL could be viable. There is still no flights yet from GOLD COAST to Tasmania or Western Australia.

[Nathan Bartlett]

But during winter, here in LST on some days we only have 3 flights a day compared to HBA's 6, so overall i think its pretty fair :D

[Tim Bowrey]

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Tim - this is not correct. Recently a third A320 was based in OOL and the pattern is serviced by that aircraft and OOL crew:
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We never got OOL based crew in NTL only MEL on the 1st of 2 OOL flights from what I can remember.

[Lukas M]

AVV flights barely exist when going into 2011. 2 SYD and 1 BNE on some days.

TT put the pressure on JQ in ROK, what are the chances of them pulling AVV?

[lloyd fox]

I believe the Jetstar BNE-PER-BNE flight is will be a red eye both ways.
Around 8pm out of BNE back around 0700 am.

[Steve Jones]

OOL-PER and BNE-PER now up for sale on the JQ website

[Brad Myer]

Daily BNE-PER-BNE and OOL-PER-OOL as well as extra services on the SYD-PER-SYD route.

[Steve Jones]

I don't think OOL-PER is daily, looking at their website. I think 4x weekly.

Pretty awful back-of-the-clock times, but I guess that's typical for the LCCs into PER.

[Brandon Giacomin]

Effective December 10, 2010

Brisbane-Perth
JQ980 BNE 2015 PER 2355 A320 D
JQ981 PER 0035 BNE 0700 A320 D

Effective April 4, 2011

Gold Coast-Perth
JQ982 OOL 2100 PER 0045+1 A320 D
JQ983 PER 0125 OOL 0755 A320 D

Fares from $199 one-way

[Kain C]

Add to that a revamped MEL-PER and SYD-PER schedule (additional 4 flights per week each):

Effective October 31, 2010

Melbourne-Perth
JQ968 MEL 0715 PER 0825 320 x
JQ970 MEL 1400 PER 1510 320 x
JQ972 MEL 1500 PER 1610 320 .23.5.7

Perth-Melbourne
JQ969 PER 1105 MEL 1735 320 x
JQ971 PER 1650 MEL 2320 320 .23.5.7
JQ973 PER 2240 MEL 0510+1 320 x

Sydney-Perth
JQ984 SYD 0710 PER 0915 320 1..45.7
JQ988 SYD 2100 PER 2305 320 x

Perth-Sydney
JQ985 PER 1005 SYD 1720 320 1..45.7
JQ989 PER 2345 SYD 0700+1 320 x

[Jarden S]

Thats a lot of extra capacity from Perth and finally new flights to OOL they could also increase the CNS flight to daily too.

[Kain C]

It's only 4 per week extra for both MEL-PER and SYD-PER. The others listed above are existing services but retimed.

As for CNS-PER and CNS-ADL, well, they tried adding a couple per week extra to both of those in April, and it looks like it didn't really work because they prefer to have the aircraft sitting on the ground doing nothing!

[Jarden S]

But the OOL-PER is also a brand new route for Jetstar not an existing one.
So Perth gets 11 new JQ services a week.

[Jarden S]

I thought that a Gold Coast to Perth flight was not viable for any airline due to restrictions with OOL's runway which I am sure I read on this website a while back. So something has changed recently for it to be able to happen now. E.g. flights can take off with a full payload and with no weight restrictions.

[Kain C]

Its actually 22 new services per week (4 MEL, 4 SYD, 7 OOL, 7 BNE).

As for the runway, when DJ operated the route the 737 had to be weight restricted. But the runway has been upgraded since then. OOL has widebody non-stops to KIX, NRT, so OOL-PER shouldn't be a problem with a full narrowbody even with the winds.

[Jarden S]

I see thanks Kain C. All they need now is Gold Coast to Hobart