QF6 - It just gets better for Qantas !!!!

[Mario Facchini]

On the SMH website at 1.24am (06/11/10)

Another Qantas plane has engine trouble November 6, 2010 - 1:24AM

AP

A Qantas jetliner has returned to Singapore with an engine problem shortly after takeoff, local television stations say.

Channel 5 station said the Boeing 747 was forced to return to Singapore shortly after takeoff on Friday.

Channel News Asia station said flight QF6 turned back after a problem with engine one. It gave no other details.

Advertisement: Story continues below On Thursday, a Qantas Airbus A380 superjumbo made an emergency landing in Singapore after one of its four engines exploded.

© 2010 AP

[Michael Lee]

Coincidence? or something more?

Damn and to think, few years ago Qantas had an impeccable safety record,
now its issue after issue.

I dont like where this might lead to...

[Benny Zheng]

Aircraft in question seems to be VH-OJD.

[Gerald A]

SINGAPORE (Reuters) – A Qantas aircraft made an emergency landing in Singapore on Friday after experiencing engine problems, an airport official and state TV said, the second such incident involving the Australian flag carrier in as many days.

The Sydney-bound Qantas Boeing 747-400, with 412 passengers on board, had been in the air for around 20 minutes when it "sought priority clearance to return to Singapore," Channel NewsAsia reported




http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101105/ts_nm/us_qantas_singapore

[Sarah C]

Engine failures happen everyday but not reported.

[Montague S]

How many is it this year for QF? fool me once, shame on me...you should know the rest!

[Mick F]

Engine failures happen everyday but not reported

Errrr, not quite Sarah....

Maybe worldwide, but certainly not in the Qantas fleet, or even in the Australian airline fleet.

While I applaud your dedication to Qantas, they're not perfect.

Mick

[Lukas M]

Engine failures happen everyday but not reported.
You sound like QF Managment.

[Dan Collins]

Just read this article about QF6 as well...

Why they decide to continue and focus on the A380 towards the end of the article I have no idea though - and they even basically compare the A380 to the B787?! WTF?!

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/8119595/another-qantas-plane-has-engine-trouble

Certainly not a good week for Qantas though and I had to put up with a guest staying at our place dissing the A380 last night because of all the faults he's heard they've been having. I tried to reason it was the engine manufacturer but he's one of those with strong opinions based on little fact in subject matters he knows little about so it was a pointless battle *sigh*

Dan

[Laurent Sanhard]

Sarah wrote :Engine failures happen everyday but not reported.

If a flight is diverted to an engine failure you normally hear about it , but Qantas seems to be having its fair share lately ,

there is someone who has been unusually quiet on this issue the last few days .:rolleyes:

[Robert S]

Engine failures happen everyday but not reported.

Every one else has already come back at you for this, but basically an engine failure in and of itself is perhaps not that notable (but I do take issue at anyone trying to write it off as an "everyday" event - engines these days are pretty reliable and the basis for lengthy ETOPS arrangements) but when it comes as part of a string of events impacting one airline, then you have to stop and ask questions.

The answer may be that it's just an unlucky series of coincidences, but the question still has to be asked.

[Adam.S]

Coincidence? or something more?


hmm, ground crew in Singapore tampering with QF aircraft perhaps?

Contaminated fuel even?

Time will tell.

[Daniel M]

Attention Andrew ...do we have an Andrew in the room? Hello?

The silence is deafening

[Kim F]

........., few years ago Qantas had an impeccable safety record,
............

...

and still does !

[Jason H]

I agree with Kim. I have absolutely no problem getting on a Qantas plane in regards to safety.

[Benny Zheng]

Thanks to Tim Bowrey for the tip. QF31(VH-OJI) is carrying 5th pod to Singapore today.

[Adam.S]

^
And still managed to depart on time. A great team effort there I reckon.

Is it known how will OQA receive its replacement engine?
5th Pod on an QF A380 once they return to service, or will Qantas strike a deal with Singapore Airlines for one of their engines?

[Stuart Trevena]

Hi,

Did anyone get a photo of QF31 with the 5th Pod?

If so, are you able to share it?

Stuart

[Mick F]

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Qantas/Boeing-747-438/1631167/L/&sid=91a4438667dcb178a8307657d00d1590

It'd just look exactly the same as that wouldn't it?

[matthew mcdonald]

^
Is it known how will OQA receive its replacement engine?
5th Pod on an QF A380 once they return to service, or will Qantas strike a deal with Singapore Airlines for one of their engines?

The A380 engine will be taken over by freight as no A380 is able to have another one added on.

BTW: The Fifth podded plane did look exactly like the one posted above.

[Andrew W]

This might be a dumb question, but when they carry the 5th pod, does that mean less pax or cargo due to weight? I know its not going to tip left or right which would be very Monty Python-esque for comedy value, but just a curious question from a novice. Thanks

[Adam.S]

The A380 engine will be taken over by freight as no A380 is able to have another one added on.


Interesting. Thankyou.

[Grahame Hutchison]

The delayed QF5 ...

VH-OJA QF005D 07/11/2010 08:57 Qantas B747-438 Sydney-Singapore-Frankfurt

[Scotty B]

This might be a dumb question, but when they carry the 5th pod, does that mean less pax or cargo due to weight?

Not a dumb question - yes, on the RR -400s the MTOW drops from 397,210 to 367,409kgs and the the MLW drops from 295,742 to 276,691kgs.

Max speed comes back to 330/.85

There are other limitations as well, but not worth discussing.


I know its not going to tip left or right which would be very Monty Python-esque for comedy value, but just a curious question from a novice. Thanks

Actually it will. Inflight up to 1 ½ units of right aileron trim and up to 2 units of right rudder trim may be required. 1 unit of right rudder trim is set for takeoff.

cheers.

[Damian N]

Just wondering if there is/was any kind of shaped cover proposed for the front of the 5th pod to aid aerodynamics????:confused:

[matthew mcdonald]

Just in case anybody is interested, today's QF5 is operated by an A330-300.

[Michael Mak]

Does it go through to Frankfurt or just Singapore?

[matthew mcdonald]

Yep. The A333 will do excatly the same as the normal QF5 (go all the way to Frankfurt). The rego was VH-QPC by the way.

[Jack B]

Can an A333 fly SIN-FRA? QF5 has been operated by an A330-300 in the past, and I think even a 767, and it usually only goes as far as SIN and then the pax move across to a 747

I'm also not sure the Cabin Crew would operate the SIN-FRA sector without horizontal crew rest, which A330's lack.

[matthew mcdonald]

Maybe your right, all I know is when it took off on flightradar the information said it was going the whole way.

[Adam W]

The 333 is not going all the way to FRA, there is an equipment change to a 744 in SIN. I don't know what QPC does next but tomorrows SIN-MEL leg of the QF10 will be operated by a 333.

[Scotty B]

beaten to it.

[Jason H]

possibly VH-OJD if if now has the replacement engine? Or will that stay and get checked and then ferry home?

[Benny Zheng]

QF5 from Singapore to Frankfurt is delayed till 0900LT departure, 1510LT arrival.
QF9 from Melbourne to Singapore is delayed till 0930LT departure, 1405LT arrival, Singapore to London 1530LT departure, 2135LT arrival.

Looks like QF10 London to Singapore is operated by BA G-YMMD and QPC is doing the QF10 Singapore to Melbourne sector according to the Singapore systems.

[Benny Zheng]

VH-OJD will fly on the QF5D sector from Singapore to Frankfurt this morning. The Sydney to Singapore sector was flown by QPC yesterday.

[Montague S]

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw-act/qantas-trainee-left-high-and-dry/story-e6freuzi-1225966661405

our friends at the Flying Roo certainly know how to maintain morale... :rolleyes:

[Andrew M]

Yeh well she needs to harden the F up to be blunt!

[Robert S]

Huh? It sounds like she performed well under pressure where it counted and raised an OH&S issue later in what appeared to be an appropriate forum.

Doesn't appear to be any hardening up required. I bet many trainees would be too spineless to call it out.

I accept there may be more to the story, but everything presented so far points to her behavior being something that should be applauded in any safety focussed organisation.