Qantas Freight B767-300F from February 2011

[Dan Collins]

Link to article: http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/dyn/au/publicaffairs/details?ArticleID=2010/dec10/5052

A Qantas Freight Livery?! Can't wait to see it!

Picture at the Wings Down Under blog: http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/wings-down-under/2010/12/photo-767-300-freighter-to-wear-qantas-livery.html

No roo on the tail?

Dan

[Sarah C]

Very nice :)

[Brad Myer]

Awsome!

Woner how long before the leased atlas B744F feature this livery?

I think EKs leased Atlas B744s feature the EK livery....

[Oliver Gigacz]

Does anyone know where the aircraft will be coming from?

If it is replacing the B762F, than surely it will only operate out of Sydney, but Qantas do operate a nightly Melbourne service, with a passenger B763.

[Will H]

Does anyone know where the aircraft will be coming from?

Inquiring minds want to know but await word from QF. ;)

[Gareth U]

While being de-iced in Frankfurt last night I was looking at the Lufthansa Cargo MD-11s and was wondering when this would happen. Great news!

Will the word 'Freight' be italicised like the 'Spirit of...' titles? I feel the Kangaroo on the tail would make it look complete. Qantas tried the lack of a tail logo (and less of the tail being covered) with the regional subsidiaries when QF and TN merged. It wasn't long before the standard Qantas logo prevailed. It makes sense. (Wasn't the first 733 in Qantas livery a sight to see? Or the Twin Otters of Australian Regional (absorbed into Sunnies)? Or the Shorts...)

I was always a fan of the AustraliaAsia 'ribbon' logo. Perhaps something freight-like could be thought up? Or maybe just the Kangaroo, I digress..

[Mick F]

Why can't Qantas use their own pilots for this? Another decision which I feel will affect morale at QF.

Mick

[Brock Little]

While being de-iced in Frankfurt last night I was looking at the Lufthansa Cargo MD-11s and was wondering when this would happen. Great news!

Will the word 'Freight' be italicised like the 'Spirit of...' titles? I feel the Kangaroo on the tail would make it look complete. Qantas tried the lack of a tail logo (and less of the tail being covered) with the regional subsidiaries when QF and TN merged. It wasn't long before the standard Qantas logo prevailed. It makes sense. (Wasn't the first 733 in Qantas livery a sight to see? Or the Twin Otters of Australian Regional (absorbed into Sunnies)? Or the Shorts...)

I was always a fan of the AustraliaAsia 'ribbon' logo. Perhaps something freight-like could be thought up? Or maybe just the Kangaroo, I digress..

A kangaroo carrying a package on its back?

:D

[Torin Wilson]

Could be ex JAL Cargo 767 ? Have all of those been allocated since the closedown of JAL Cargo?

[Brad Myer]

Why can't Qantas use their own pilots for this? Another decision which I feel will affect morale at QF.

Mick

EFA is 100% owned by QF....

[Mick F]

I realise that Brad, but will they endorse these pilots on the 767, or will Qantas just use current 767 pilots?

Mick

[Ash W]

What do they do now? Afterall, all this is is a new aircraft to replace an existing 767-200.

[Mick F]

Currently they contract it to an entirely different company, QF pilots aren't involved.

Mick

[Jarden S]

Kangaroo with a backpack is a great idea!

[Damian N]

Looks great.....I think the lack of a Kangaroo works well with the lack of a window-line yet remains still recognisable as Qantas. How about some winglets????

PS does anyone know what the small "logo" is beside the cockpit window?

[Brock Little]

Winglets would be great!

[Justin L]

Kangaroo with a backpack is a great idea!

Or a kangaroo with freight in its pouch! :D

[Damian N]

Winglets with a small roo on them!!!!!!!

[Ash W]

PS does anyone know what the small "logo" is beside the cockpit window?

It says "Express Freighters Australia".

[Todd Milton]

Will the word 'Freight' be italicised like the 'Spirit of...' titles? I feel the Kangaroo on the tail would make it look complete. Qantas tried the lack of a tail logo (and less of the tail being covered) with the regional subsidiaries when QF and TN merged. It wasn't long before the standard Qantas logo prevailed. It makes sense. (Wasn't the first 733 in Qantas livery a sight to see? Or the Twin Otters of Australian Regional (absorbed into Sunnies)? Or the Shorts...)

I would say not. The 'Freight' part of the Qantas Freight logo is marketed in the font as seen on the 'mock up', while the Spirit of Australia slogan is marketed in the italiscised font.

Agree with the roo, would make it look complete!

Media Release from Qantas Freight: http://www.qantas.com.au/freight/pdf/5052.pdf

[Ray P.]

I'm against putting the Roo on the tail. To do so would make it look very similar to any other Qantas B763 in the new scheme. The lack of a Roo on the tail makes this stand out.

[Peter Agatsiotis]

Do we know when EFA is due?

My log shows that the ATI B762 hasn't flown since Jan 27th.

[lloyd fox]

Peter the ATI 762F is grounded due corrosion i have heard.

[Peter Agatsiotis]

Thanks Lloyd; I was there yesterday am but didn't see it so it may be in one of the hangars?

[Karl M]

Saw a few pics the other day of the 763F being painted. Titles were on and tail was painted so she should not be too far away!

[Jayden Laing]

The last couple of days, the ATI 762F has been inside Qantas Hangar 191 (directly opposite the QF domestic boarding gates with platforms & scaffolding surrounding it.

[Karl M]

Lastest pic I saw yesterday showed it all painted up all looks as though it was ready to go. Was photographed in front of a hanger in SIN, so guess it would come direct from there.

[Peter Agatsiotis]

According to Aviation Letter, the a/c is ex ANA JA603F (33510) and is being leased to Express Freighters Australia (with Qantas colours).
They have the reg as VH-EFR?

(Torin the 3 JAL 763F's have all gone to LAN Cargo)

[Tony G]

I actually think the colour scheme would be quite plain. Would be good to see once, then its just another Qantas aircraft. Would be nice to go for a polished or gray fuselage, or even animated pallets painted down the side.

[Karl M]

According to Aviation Letter, the a/c is ex ANA JA603F (33510) and is being leased to Express Freighters Australia (with Qantas colours).
They have the reg as VH-EFR?

(Torin the 3 JAL 763F's have all gone to LAN Cargo)

The picture I saw yesterday had the rego as VH-EFA, though had to zoom in to read it, so could be mistaken.

[Peter Agatsiotis]

Well you could be right Karl it has always been mooted as EFA.

Just checked CASA and EFA is currently a Cirrus SR22.
VH-EFR 'not found'.

[Michael Dawson]

http://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-b767-33510.htm

Info from airfleets, looks like VH-EFR.

Regards

Michael

[Karl M]

Thats what I found too Michael when I googled EFA.

Will check tommorow when I go into work and double check the picture.

[Tim Bowrey]

Apparently Qantas Freight 767-300F is due later this afternoon from Singapore at 7:10pm as QF7572. Up on the SACL site as 2 days delayed with an updated time of arrival to tonight as shown.

[Nigel C]

Will be parking on Bay 8. ETA now 1930.

[Kieran Wells]

ETA now 1930.

Just keeps getting later and later... Might just be like the Antonov...

[Shayne G]

It's ETA seems to be 7pm now..

[Peter Agatsiotis]

Very close on PP, looks like RWY25 being used; probably just landed.

[Shayne G]

It landed 25 a few minutes ago. Hope you guys upload some photos tonight, really would like to see this one :D

[Tim Bowrey]

VH-EFR Landed 25 on the hour and now at Bay 8 as Nige said. No Roo on the tail but doesnt look too bad.

[Nigel C]

It's ETA seems to be 7pm now..

Yep, they updated FIDS after my previous post. Landed 1902, parked as posted on Bay 8 T1.

[Micheil Keegan]

Looks just the same as the artist's impression floating around a while ago.

http://users.tpg.com.au/boeing84/VH-EFR.jpg

Micheil

[Brock Little]

Nice shots guys!

[Sarah C]

Nice pics guy, considering the weather!

I don't mind it the livery. It would have been good to see at least the outline of the roo on the tail.

[Jarden S]

Nice to see it in the flesh.

[Raymond Rowe]

Nice to see it but why wont Qantas let them put the rat (Kangaroo) on the tail.

[Bob C]

Thanks for sharing the shots guys ; hopefully, we'll see it in Perth one day.

I guess the aircraft has a large rear cargo door but I can't see any outline of it in the photos.

[Peter Agatsiotis]

I was out there this morning but couldn't see it amongst all the a/c at the Jet Base but don't think it has a rear cargo door only a large one at the front.

[D Chan]

What Bob C was referring to (I think) is large aft below deck door. All of Qantas's existing 767s have large fwd below deck door and small aft below deck door

[John Tavendale]

Yeah Bob, it does have the large cargo door aft on the starboard side.

Knocked these up for the new SkySpirit 767 (Formerly POSKY).. still working on 'em.

http://www.jtavendale.com/VHEFR.jpg

http://www.jtavendale.com/VHEFR2.jpg

[Bob C]

No, D Chan, I wasn't referring to that as what would be the point of a dedicated freighter if it only had under deck storage and only a small door at the front ?

A bit like the RAAF's new KC30Bs that only have under deck storage and no large cargo door to utilize the upper passenger deck space.

And thanks John for confirming the cargo door is on the starboard side.

[John Tavendale]

Bob, what Dickson means is the large cargo door on the starboard side is for underfloor storage. The only upper door is on the port side at the front of the aircraft.

As seen here: http://www.airliners.net/photo/All-Nippon-Airways/Boeing-767-381F/1355892/L/

[Fred C]

Well as JA603F has a large aft cargo door then I guess VH-EFR has one too, as they are one in the same.:D Looks like large cargo doors all round then.

[Peter Agatsiotis]

Still haven't sighted this a/c yet and wonder why it hasn't been put into service yet?

[Oliver Gigacz]

I was in Sydney last Tuesday, and spotted it inside the 767 hangars.

[D Chan]

perhaps it is due to CHC earthquake?

[Brian Wilkes]

Anyone know when the new QF 763F will start services across the Tasman?

[Fred C]

Maybe on Sun at 0800?

[Brian Wilkes]

So this is NOT confirmed?

[Fred C]

It has been changing daily for nearly a week now. So I aint willing to commit.:D

[Brian Wilkes]

No thats ok Fred, I would have thought it would be in the air by now!

If anyone knows of it's entry into service I would be greatfull.

[Fred C]

Brian,

It is now showing Sun at 0905. So all going well it will be its first flight for Express Freighters Australia.:D

[Brian Wilkes]

Ta mate, Im on my way up there in the next few weeks so hope to see it.
If she does start flying around could you post it for me pls.

Thanks again!

[Nigel C]

Fred, are there any plans that you know of with regards to adding any more freighters?

Cheers

[Fred C]

Nigel,
Not at present, although there was a rumour of possibly a second one if the first works well for them. At the moment it will only be across the pond and back just like the ATI 767-200.

[Nigel C]

Thanks Fred.

The aircraft has now been towed to Bay 2 on the freight apron, right next to the ATI machine.

[Tony G]

Brian,

It is now showing Sun at 0905. So all going well it will be its first flight for Express Freighters Australia.:D

At the cargo terminal at the moment.

[Shayne G]

The 763 departed 9:51am on 16R. Nice to see her finally in service.

[Jarden S]

When will they return the ATI 762 or will they keep it a bit longer?

[Brian Wilkes]

What will be the arr/dep days and times for this aircraft if anyone has them?

[Shayne G]

What will be the arr/dep days and times for this aircraft if anyone has them?

The aircraft should follow the ATI 762's old schedule so it should go like this.

Monday - Thursday it departs Sydney at 10:10pm and arrives back the next morning at 6:05am. Then on Saturday it departs that night (Probably 10:10pm) and arrives back 6:05am Sunday morning. Then it does an extra flight on the same Sunday at 8:05am and arrives back on the same Sunday at 3:55pm.


Hope this helps!

[Jayden Laing]

It's headed our way in Sydney Chris!! Due in around 5:30pm

[Brian Wilkes]

The aircraft should follow the ATI 762's old schedule so it should go like this.

Monday - Thursday it departs Sydney at 10:10pm and arrives back the next morning at 6:05am. Then on Saturday it departs that night (Probably 10:10pm) and arrives back 6:05am Sunday morning. Then it does an extra flight on the same Sunday at 8:05am and arrives back on the same Sunday at 3:55pm.


Hope this helps!

Thanks for that!

[Brian Wilkes]

NICE!

[Jayden Laing]

Nice Photo's Chris. Yet to look through mine!! Glad to finally meet you in person.

[Bernie P]

Departing...
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5057/5501645473_e95fee3edf_z.jpg
Taxing to gate...
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5215/5501646419_0e957f35b4_z.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5212/5501647639_e8f27e6178_z.jpg
I still think it needs the 'Roo' on the tail, even if it is the type that has the wings from years ago... The all red just desn't look right!

[Jakef]

Doesn't look finished without the Kangaroo tail

[Tony G]

Would they have a dedicated crew for the freighter. Or will they rotate crew flying both the passenger and freighter 767's? I could only imagine, communication with passengers would be the only difference.

[Fred C]

This is not a Qantas aeroplane. It is owned by Express Freighters Australia. It is crewed by EFA.

[Tony G]

Thanks Fred.