PDA

View Full Version : VB/PB livery rebranding starts.


Pages : [1] 2 3 4 5 6 7

Anthony T
19th January 2011, 03:50 PM
Hi there

According to info from another forum, Virgin Blue have commenced rebranding of their aircraft.

VUY gets AFL decals on the 21st, VUM is back out and about and still has Pacific Blue on the horizontal stabiliser but Pacific Blue on the fuse is gone and has been replaced by 'Airline Of Virgin Blue' on the forward fuse around the front hold door area in large letters, and pretty sure VUF will end up the same around the 25th of Jan.

Cheers
Anthony T

Damian N
19th January 2011, 04:43 PM
Hi there

According to info from another forum, Virgin Blue have commenced rebranding of their aircraft.




Pics anyone??

Ash W
19th January 2011, 05:28 PM
Seems more like they are de-branding their aircraft rather than re-branding. With the rebranding to come later.

Matt_L
19th January 2011, 05:46 PM
from available info I have at the moment (and i could be wrong so dont blame the messenger!)

it appears the unveiling of the AFL livery (VUY) will occur in Melbourne.. possibly it rolling out of the JHAS hangars.. on Friday.. unsure of time etc

Jack Melon
19th January 2011, 06:27 PM
VH-VBI and VH-VBN have been re-painted, the "virgin" girl has been taken off with the name eg. smurfette, and the virgin on the tail looks different. I would say this will be part of the re-branding. Heres a picture of VH-VBN

http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=7024154&nseq=5

Cheers.

Paul f.
19th January 2011, 07:01 PM
VH-VUM without titles.

Jayden Laing
19th January 2011, 07:39 PM
VUY goes into the hangar in Melbourne at the JHAS hangar tomorrow night (Thursday 20th) for AFL decals & will return to service on Tuesday 25th

Tim Bowrey
19th January 2011, 07:48 PM
Last service will be MEL-SYD-MEL DJ885/894 tomorrow night.

Raymond Rowe
19th January 2011, 08:18 PM
With all the rebranding going on one can only hope that all the ZK registered machines will be bought back to the aussie register.

Tim Bowrey
20th January 2011, 10:33 AM
VUM is from DPS this morning with the new titles. Seems pointless theyd go to the trouble of putting these titles on them when itl be in the hanger within the next 6 months or so getting the new livery.

Shayne G
20th January 2011, 11:08 AM
Nice shot Tim!

It's gonna be interesting seeing all these 'hybrid' liveries for a little while :)

What will happen to their Polynesian Blue aircraft?

Tim Bowrey
20th January 2011, 11:19 AM
Thanks Shayne,

I assume the Poly -800 along the line will be converted alongside the Pac Blue -800's all back to their Aussie regos, e.g. ZK-PBK will go to VH-VUP. Of course when DJ, Poly, Pac and V Aus are all under one name. Then again QF have the 'Jet Connet' set up with all the Kiwi -800's so who knows.

Thats the exciting part not knowing I guess!

Jack Melon
20th January 2011, 12:23 PM
Nice shot Tim!

It's gonna be interesting seeing all these 'hybrid' liveries for a little while :)

What will happen to their Polynesian Blue aircraft?

Ther is only 1 painted Polynesian Blue aircraft so i would say the same fate as the pacific blue planes.

Cheers.

Damian N
20th January 2011, 07:10 PM
With all the rebranding going on one can only hope that all the ZK registered machines will be bought back to the aussie register.

I thought I have read somewhere that there is an advantage in having aircraft ZK registered - lesser crew numbers or something???

Jarden S
20th January 2011, 07:36 PM
Also the registration fees will be lower in NZ.

Raymond Rowe
20th January 2011, 08:01 PM
With all the rebranding there is no real reason to keep them on the NZ register.Do not fly domestic routes,And they are basically on used to fly to Australia.Might as well put them back on the Vh register and put them back in the main pool.

Torin Wilson
20th January 2011, 09:12 PM
Ray, that thinking was part of the reason Ansett collapsed.

Save money when and where you can, when it does not dilute or damage the product/brand.

Ash W
21st January 2011, 12:49 AM
Torin, what are you reading from Ray's post that I'm not? What does bringing the NZ registered aircraft back onto the Aus register got to do with diluting brand image and what does it have to do with Ansett?

Damian N
21st January 2011, 07:49 AM
Torin, what are you reading from Ray's post that I'm not? What does bringing the NZ registered aircraft back onto the Aus register got to do with diluting brand image and what does it have to do with Ansett?

What I think Torin means is that if keeping them ZK registered saves money then this is good for the Virgin Blue company. Torin is implying that if Ansett exec's had kept a better watch on costs (a lot of little things eventually add up over time!) they may not have found themselves in such dire predicament.

In terms of diluting brand image, I think Torin is NOT saying that having them ZK/VH registered will effect brand image. What Torin IS saying is that where you have small things like this, that $$ can be saved WITHOUT damaging image, then VB seek out the lesser cost option.

Peter Agatsiotis
21st January 2011, 08:46 AM
Just to add to all the airlines mentioned and comments re ANZ/Ansett, on the ABC news last night there was a caption stating that ANZ have purchased 15% of Virgin Blue shares!!!!!

Peter Agatsiotis
21st January 2011, 08:54 AM
ANZ shares in DJ is already on another thread, apologies.

Jack Melon
22nd January 2011, 09:34 AM
I was just thinking, because pacific blue is finishing up on its domestic nz routes in febuary this year or whatever, John's plan might be to put some of ex. vb aircraft back on the aussie register and get those vh registed vb planes in pacific blue colours back to virgin blue livery.

Wonder how vh-vuy is today if she is in service after yesterdays paint :D

Also VH-VUZ is on her way shortly and the 105 new 737NG's will start to be dilivered from july so the fleet is getting big :)

Cheers.

Andrew M
22nd January 2011, 02:58 PM
VUY goes into the hangar in Melbourne at the JHAS hangar tomorrow night (Thursday 20th) for AFL decals & will return to service on Tuesday 25th

Saw her in there this morning :)

Brock Little
22nd January 2011, 03:12 PM
Will Virgin Blue will give the new livery to every single Boeing 737 in their fleet, given that some leased ones will be replaced by the newer 737NGs in July? Because the whole livery rollout will definitely take time.

Andrew Ewen
22nd January 2011, 03:17 PM
@ Jack Melon

Pacific Blue Domestic services within New Zealand actually finished in October last year .

I don't think that there would be much of a hurry to repaint those aircraft into Virgin Blue livery if the Virgin Blue livery itself is due to disappear with the re-branding .

Jayden Laing
22nd January 2011, 04:47 PM
VOA ends its lease with Virgin Blue tomorrow (23rd Jan) & VOC ends its lease on 13th March. VUF & VUN terminate Pacific Blue Ops over the next 2 weeks with both of them to get a Pac Blue paint out & decal installations.

Jack Melon
22nd January 2011, 06:11 PM
VOA ends its lease with Virgin Blue tomorrow (23rd Jan) & VOC ends its lease on 13th March. VUF & VUN terminate Pacific Blue Ops over the next 2 weeks with both of them to get a Pac Blue paint out & decal installations.

Do you have any idea when vh-vbu leaves the fleet? She is very different and i dont like her, no leather seats and no live2'air.

So VH-VBA, VH-VBB, VH-VBC, VH-VBD, VH-VBH, VH-VBI, VH-VBJ VH-VBK, VH-VBL, VH-VBY and VH-VBZ out of the -700's will stay for a while?
And the 737-8FEs will keep in the fleet?
But of course the new leased ones 737-8KG or whatever will stay for a long time.

Daniel M
23rd January 2011, 07:48 AM
VOA ends its lease with Virgin Blue tomorrow (23rd Jan) & VOC ends its lease on 13th March. VUF & VUN terminate Pacific Blue Ops over the next 2 weeks with both of them to get a Pac Blue paint out & decal installations.

VOA departed at 0800 from MEL, on its way to Subang, Malaysia. Must be pushing the limits of a 737's range!

Daniel M
23rd January 2011, 10:01 AM
VOA departed at 0800 from MEL, on its way to Subang, Malaysia. Must be pushing the limits of a 737's range!

annnnnnddddd it's back again in MEL with a minor engineering issue :D

Sean W
23rd January 2011, 10:26 AM
Will Virgin Blue will give the new livery to every single Boeing 737 in their fleet, given that some leased ones will be replaced by the newer 737NGs in July? Because the whole livery rollout will definitely take time.



Mr Borghetti will outline a name change, thought to be Virgin Australia, which will bring Virgin Blue, V Australia and Pacific Blue under one brand.
He is also looking for more planes, with analysts suggesting that either 300-seat A330s or 260-seat 767s may be leased for quick delivery ahead of a possible order for 290-seat 787s.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/world/3835958/Virgin-Blue-to-introduce-business-class-change-name

Jack Melon
23rd January 2011, 10:41 AM
Mr Borghetti will outline a name change, thought to be Virgin Australia, which will bring Virgin Blue, V Australia and Pacific Blue under one brand.
He is also looking for more planes, with analysts suggesting that either 300-seat A330s or 260-seat 767s may be leased for quick delivery ahead of a possible order for 290-seat 787s.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/world/3835958/Virgin-Blue-to-introduce-business-class-change-name

I reckon virgin should get the 737-900ER, to go head to head with JQ's A321's and on the busy MEL-SYD-BNE Routes. Make there 737-800's go head to head with there A320's and there 737-700's go head to head with qf' 737-800 and 737-400 routes. There is hope virgin will get the 25 options configured into more 737-700's or the 737-900ER. I think virgin are going to get rid of the -700's all together?

Bob C
23rd January 2011, 11:02 AM
That is very old news Sean as the link you posted is dated 21 June 2010.

Virgin Blue announced in August that it will lease two former Emirates A330s. The first, VH-XFA (formerly A6-EAB) was noted in an all white scheme in Dubai last week. Both should be in service by May 2011 with another two expected early in 2012.

Sean W
23rd January 2011, 11:19 AM
That is very old news Sean as the link you posted is dated 21 June 2010.

Virgin Blue announced in August that it will lease two former Emirates A330s. The first, VH-XFA (formerly A6-EAB) was noted in an all white scheme in Dubai last week. Both should be in service by May 2011 with another two expected early in 2012.

Thanks for that Bob sorry missed the date under the header - My bad.

Daniel M
23rd January 2011, 11:35 AM
VUY will operate its first revenue flight with AFL decals tomorrow morning to ADL at 0705. It will be in and out of ADL and OOL all day

Zac M
23rd January 2011, 11:36 AM
Will it be making any trips to Canberra over the next few days (before Thursday) and where will it be on Thursday?

Lukas M
23rd January 2011, 12:53 PM
anyone know if or when today its coming out of the hanger. Really want a shot.

Jayden Laing
23rd January 2011, 04:14 PM
Lukas,
It's out of the hangar tomorrow, operating MEL-ADL-OOL-ADL-MEL

Paul f.
23rd January 2011, 08:18 PM
Lukas,
It's out of the hangar tomorrow, operating MEL-ADL-OOL-ADL-MEL

There is a photo of it on the Virgin Blue Facebook page.

Daniel M
23rd January 2011, 08:27 PM
Pic from VB Facebook page

Andi O
23rd January 2011, 08:32 PM
Snapped it last night while it was in obviously an unfinshed state.

Brock Little
23rd January 2011, 08:40 PM
I reckon virgin should get the 737-900ER, to go head to head with JQ's A321's and on the busy MEL-SYD-BNE Routes. Make there 737-800's go head to head with there A320's and there 737-700's go head to head with qf' 737-800 and 737-400 routes. There is hope virgin will get the 25 options configured into more 737-700's or the 737-900ER. I think virgin are going to get rid of the -700's all together?

They are already going to use A330s on the SYD/MEL/BNE triangle in their downtime; when they aren't operating to PER, as I recall.

Cam L
24th January 2011, 08:59 AM
I was watching the adelaide airport webcam and saw it briefly taxiing out for departure, runway 23. Couldn't see a heck of a lot though. Anyone gone out to OOL or MEL or ADL to catch it???????

VH-VUY, that is.......

Torin Wilson
24th January 2011, 10:02 AM
http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=7031347&nseq=0

Boring

Bernie P
24th January 2011, 10:06 AM
I am not sure IF I like it or not... Maybe because there is no branding on the tail, and waiting to see WHAT the final rebranding and scheme of the aircraft will be, but its actually kinda boring...

Maybe it will grow on me, but at this stage, blah...

Brian Wilkes
24th January 2011, 10:32 AM
Thats not the full livery!
New Tail logo is still missing.

Peter Agatsiotis
24th January 2011, 10:36 AM
Great photo and something different; I know we probably won't see it here but the All Blacks ANZ 320 looks good (B&W photo on AL530 cover)

Steve Jones
24th January 2011, 11:29 AM
VUY is scheduled to be operating in and out of SYD most of the day tomorrow (25 Jan) to and from MCY, BNK and ADL

Shayne G
24th January 2011, 01:06 PM
I may go spot at Sydney for a little while on Wednesday (26/1/11) and If anyone is in the know I'd like to know if VH-VUY will be in and VH-VUM.
If they are both are in tommorrow (25/1/11) I may go in then. :)

Jayden Laing
24th January 2011, 01:21 PM
VUY's movements from SYD for tomorrow (25/1):

DJ811 MEL-SYD (Arrive SYD 8:25am)
DJ479 SYD-MCY (Depart SYD 9:05am)
DJ478 MCY-SYD (Arrive SYD 12:45pm)
DJ1141 SYD-BNK (Depart SYD 1:20pm)
DJ1142 BNK-SYD (Arrive SYD 4:25pm)
DJ436 SYD-ADL (Depart SYD 6:05pm)

Brock Little
24th January 2011, 03:21 PM
Here it is at OOL!

Jack Melon
24th January 2011, 03:28 PM
guys, the obvious reason why the tail and other parts is still white, is because they are waiting for the new "name" and virgin livery before they add the rest.

Anyone know the routes she will be operating this thursday (27th)

Cheers

Bernie P
24th January 2011, 11:00 PM
guys, the obvious reason why the tail and other parts is still white, is because they are waiting for the new "name" and virgin livery before they add the rest.
Cheers

Exactly what I was saying...

I am not sure IF I like it or not... Maybe because there is no branding on the tail, and waiting to see WHAT the final rebranding and scheme of the aircraft will be, but its actually kinda boring...

Maybe it will grow on me, but at this stage, blah...

Ash W
24th January 2011, 11:14 PM
guys, the obvious reason why the tail and other parts is still white, is because they are waiting for the new "name" and virgin livery before they add the rest.Cheers

Really? I had thought reading this thread that this was indeed the new name and livery of Virgin Blue. Oh my how wrong I was. Guess will have to wait like everyone else to see what it ends up being.

Brock Little
25th January 2011, 06:32 AM
Really? I had thought reading this thread that this was indeed the new name and livery of Virgin Blue. Oh my how wrong I was. Guess will have to wait like everyone else to see what it ends up being.

May as well get a photo of it while it lasts though :)

Cam L
25th January 2011, 08:22 AM
Mind you, who really knows anymore, when we will see the promised livery and name released. I heard Australia Day, tomorrow, but that seems a bit soon??!!!!:confused:

Virgin Blue's twitter and facebook are littered with requests for news and updates, all answered by VB as ''wait and see'' or ''good things come to those that wait''.

It better be good......................;)

Karl M
25th January 2011, 09:14 AM
Looks like a half asred job to me!
I thin it should say: Virgin Blue, Proudly ONLY flying the AFL! hehehe

Bernie P
25th January 2011, 10:24 AM
AS you do, I was out at YSSY this morning (for some 'unknown' reason, and guess what showed up :p

STILL not sure I like it even AFTER seeing it...

Taxing to the gate after a 16L arrival:
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5211/5386146196_ab7a411b79_b.jpg

And around at the Boat Ramp for a 16L departure:
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5211/5386149462_3880fd4606_b.jpg

lloyd fox
25th January 2011, 10:46 AM
I would suggest 23 feb is when they announce their 6 month profit-loss results would be a date you may wish to lock in for any announcements.

Cam L
25th January 2011, 11:08 AM
I would suggest 23 feb is when they announce their 6 month profit-loss results would be a date you may wish to lock in for any announcements.

Well, i am planning on a flight with VB in mid march. so hopefully everything comes out by then. Anyone know what the deal is with the next white plane coming in? i believe its VH-VUZ. Is this for the promised new livery? Or another teaser just to be used for a different scheme..........???!!!!:confused:

Jack Melon
25th January 2011, 11:26 AM
Well, i am planning on a flight with VB in mid march. so hopefully everything comes out by then. Anyone know what the deal is with the next white plane coming in? i believe its VH-VUZ. Is this for the promised new livery? Or another teaser just to be used for a different scheme..........???!!!!:confused:

She is scheduled for a March dilivery to vb.

Cheers.

Lukas M
25th January 2011, 11:26 AM
anyone know if vuy is in melbourne tommorow?

Cam L
25th January 2011, 03:55 PM
It's hopping all up and down the east coast last i heard.

It was Adl, Ool and Mel yesterday, and SYD alot today so Mel may be visited again i'd say.

Anyone know of a good website to find out which a/c will be on which route?????

That may help you.

:):)

Jayden Laing
25th January 2011, 04:36 PM
It's terminating in BNE tonight for a wash tomorrow. It may fly in the afternoon but chances are it won't fly again until Thursday.

Daniel M
25th January 2011, 05:22 PM
VUY will be into SYD, MCY, BNK and MEL tomorrow

Raymond Rowe
25th January 2011, 07:54 PM
Times into Melbourne please.

Jon B
25th January 2011, 08:58 PM
It was at gate 37 tonight in Sydney pushed back about 18:10 as i was sitting on my Melbourne bound flight at gate 35.

No name or virgin flying lady on the nose area

Off topic but the cabin supervisor tonight asked for everyone attention whilst they demonstrated the saftey issues with the aircraft - well that sure got everyones attention!

Lukas M
25th January 2011, 09:09 PM
Tomorrow
Arr Syd 8.30am, dep 9.05am
Arr Syd 12.45pm, dep 1.20pm
Arr Syd 4.25pm, dep 5.15pm
Arr Mel 6.45, dep 7.15pm
Arr Syd 8.40pm

Jayden Laing
25th January 2011, 09:14 PM
VUY for tomorrow (26/1)

DJ908 BNE-SYD (arrival 8:30am)
DJ479 SYD-MCY (Depart 9:05am)
DJ478 MCY-SYD (Arrive 12:45pm)
DJ1141 SYD-BNK (Depart 1:20pm)
DJ1142 BNK-SYD (Arrive 4:25pm)
DJ868 SYD-MEL (Depart 5:15pm)
DJ885 MEL-SYD (Arrive 8:40pm)

OVERNIGHTING IN SYD. Early morning departure on Thursday!!!!

Lukas beat me to it!!!

Matt F.
26th January 2011, 10:11 AM
She is scheduled for a March dilivery to vb.

Cheers.

It's scheduled for delivery next week jack. It flys out of BFI on Friday, then does the usual BFI-LIH, LIH-NAN, NAN-BNE

Jack B
26th January 2011, 10:24 AM
Off topic but the cabin supervisor tonight asked for everyone attention whilst they demonstrated the saftey issues with the aircraft - well that sure got everyones attention!

I've been on a DJ flight where the Cabin Manager stopped twice during the safety demo to insist everyone paid attention - Good on her, I thought!

JamesW
26th January 2011, 04:25 PM
Tomorrow does;

DJ549 SYD - PER
DJ4149 PER - HKT

Would be a lovely sight to see in Phuket! :D

Craig Sandford
27th January 2011, 12:02 PM
Does anyone with inside knowledge know why the team logos are in the order they are? It's not alphabetical nor the ladder position from last year.

It kind of disturbs me that Collingwood is in the upper left corner... :eek:

Todd Hendry
27th January 2011, 01:23 PM
Thats Eddie's seat below it.

Greg F
27th January 2011, 04:32 PM
Nice to see something different flying about!
IMO I love it when companies are changing liveries as in 'complete' not just re-styling a kangaroo..... :)

I remember when Ansett was re-branding VH-RMK was flying round with a blue tail, then a few days later stars... apparently the cleaners threw the decals out... only rumour though...


i wonder who got the finger pointed at for the decals not aligning on VUY?

Zac M
27th January 2011, 05:41 PM
Is it currently in Brisbane/on approach to Brisbane, I am staying under the main approach to Brisbane and I am pretty sure it just flew over, I am still a fair way out though, so it was a little hard to make out.

Brock Little
27th January 2011, 06:52 PM
Is it currently in Brisbane/on approach to Brisbane, I am staying under the main approach to Brisbane and I am pretty sure it just flew over, I am still a fair way out though, so it was a little hard to make out.

It wasn't meant to be in BNE today.

Tomorrow (meaning today) does;

DJ549 SYD - PER
DJ4149 PER - HKT

Would be a lovely sight to see in Phuket! :D

So would be in HKT now.

Ash W
27th January 2011, 07:17 PM
Nice to see something different flying about!
IMO I love it when companies are changing liveries as in 'complete' not just re-styling a kangaroo..... :)

I remember when Ansett was re-branding VH-RMK was flying round with a blue tail, then a few days later stars... apparently the cleaners threw the decals out... only rumour though...


i wonder who got the finger pointed at for the decals not aligning on VUY?

This is clearly not a change in livery. It is Virgin Blue placing advertising on an all white aircraft. Yes the new livery will come, it will be interesting to see how different it will end up being.

Damian N
27th January 2011, 08:00 PM
i wonder who got the finger pointed at for the decals not aligning on VUY?


Where do they not align??:confused:

Brian Wilkes
28th January 2011, 12:02 PM
Anyone have VUY's movements for this weekend pls. Any chance of Melbourne?

Tim Bowrey
28th January 2011, 01:06 PM
Anyone have VUY's movements for this weekend pls. Any chance of Melbourne?

Brian its doing HKT-PER-MEL and will be with you 5:30am tomorrow morning arriving as DJ698 then off to BNE-SYD-BNE-SYD-BNE.

On another note,

VUF is in SYD with the same titles as VUM.

Brian Wilkes
28th January 2011, 01:08 PM
ouch! thanks mate!

Peter Agatsiotis
28th January 2011, 05:14 PM
Saw VUF depart today but too slow for a good photo as I wasn't taking photos of DJ today. snapped one anyway but it was too far away at that stage.

Greg F
30th January 2011, 11:25 AM
Where do they not align??:confused:

If you look at some of the pictures on jetphotos.net or alike you can see just before (or after depending on what side of AC) the AFL Logo up the top it does not align, and for the size of the AC its a pretty big mess up.

I only notice this as I do signage myself

Phil M.
30th January 2011, 05:45 PM
Dad just checked his photos he took on Wed 26th and has to agree
top does not line up on both sides, same spot,

hope these photos have attached

Brian Wilkes
30th January 2011, 05:51 PM
At the end of the day does it really matter?

Dan Hammond
30th January 2011, 06:53 PM
I did not notice it till it was mentioned here. But at the end of the day is the average passenger going to notice it? I mean its still clear as to what the logo jet is all about and its easy to see and make out the wording/logos on it. just my 2 cents

AaronBradford
30th January 2011, 07:08 PM
Also notice that the door is further aft on the port side? ;)

Raymond Rowe
30th January 2011, 07:34 PM
Also notice that the door is further aft on the port side? ;)


Yes boeing do build them different.

James Smith
30th January 2011, 07:44 PM
It is because there are five teams inscribed on the starboard side top row in front of the AFL logo and only four on the top row of the port side, resulting in the logo being further rearward by about on window length on the starboard side of the fuselage. The difference must be made up in the next rearward red segment.

Zac M
31st January 2011, 07:27 AM
Is VUF/VUM/VUY in Brisbane today between 2pm and 1730? I saw VUY yesterday on finals whilst at and even managed to get a really **** picture.

Rob R
31st January 2011, 10:11 AM
The door locations on VUY are the same as every other 737. All the fuselage's are built the same in Wichita.

Todd Hendry
31st January 2011, 10:56 AM
The port door is larger than the starboard door. Hence the optical illusion.
Todd

Gareth U
31st January 2011, 02:04 PM
I always thought the starboard door sat further forward.

Boeing diagrams clearly show the starboard door being positioned further forward on the -100 and -200 series, but not on later models.

There is an extra window on the starboard side on all 737 models.

Although the starboard door is smaller, it still seems to me that it sits further forward. Must simply be an illusion.

AaronBradford
31st January 2011, 05:13 PM
The door locations on VUY are the same as every other 737. All the fuselage's are built the same in Wichita.

I'm not saying they are different than other 737s at all.

Brian Wilkes
31st January 2011, 05:15 PM
Any idea when VUY will be back in Melbourne?

Jack B
31st January 2011, 05:26 PM
Are there any differences between doors on 737NGs and the older models? The -400s seem to have different windows on L1, or so it seemed to me.

Gareth U
31st January 2011, 08:47 PM
Purely cosmetic, as far as I can tell. The -100s, - 200s and the oldest -300s have a slghtly different door operating handle (identical function/operation).

Erik H. Bakke
8th February 2011, 10:39 PM
Unless my eyes have deceived me, I saw VH-VOX in Sydney this arvo (Tuesday) with the same titles -VUM has received.

It was parked near the runway 25 fence.

Brian Wilkes
8th February 2011, 10:48 PM
VOX has just come back across the ditch after going a C-check!

Brock Little
10th February 2011, 07:39 PM
VUZ has entered service, operating DJ346 BNE-MEL this evening.

Nigel S
13th February 2011, 10:01 AM
Word is that VUZ is going in the shops tonight to have Gold Coast Suns decals applied-anyone able to confirm this?
Cheers
N'oz

Jack Melon
13th February 2011, 10:15 AM
Sure is!

Tim Bowrey
13th February 2011, 11:56 AM
MEL-PER-SYD-MEL today. Departing SYD at 2030.

Peter Agatsiotis
13th February 2011, 02:05 PM
Lucky that VOX departed whilst I was at Shep's mound, picture attached.
VUN was parked near the old DOM terminal.

Have gone through most of this thread and can't find anything that points to the fact that only the VH registered 'Pacific Blue' aircraft are having these decals applied so a few more to go yet. At this point there are at least 4 so far (VUF, VUM, VUN and VOX).

Zac M
13th February 2011, 02:38 PM
Would only leave VUG, VOQ, ZPM and ZPN, am I correct?

Peter Agatsiotis
13th February 2011, 05:51 PM
Yes Zac, I thought there were more but I was only going by my digipics.

VH-VOQ was in today.

Brock Little
13th February 2011, 07:30 PM
VUZ is getting painted tonight...will it come to OOL tomorrow?

Brian Wilkes
13th February 2011, 08:31 PM
I cant see it being ready in time, marking out and applying of the decals in 8 to 12 hours!

Paul f.
13th February 2011, 08:54 PM
VUZ is getting painted tonight...will it come to OOL tomorrow?Its not getting painted;)

Brock Little
13th February 2011, 09:12 PM
Yeah it probably won't get repainted that fast...I guess I've seen too many timelapse videos of aircraft repaintings :o

Paul f.
13th February 2011, 09:31 PM
You guys are getting confused, its getting a livery which are decals(stickers)not painted.

Bernie P
14th February 2011, 01:18 PM
Taken from the mound last night:

VH-VUZ arriving from Perth:
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5217/5443448017_50af85f697_z.jpg

VH-VXG which called for an emergency due to a 'Fuel Leak' indicator (Left Wing)... After about 5-10 mins waiting, it taxi'd to the gate WITHOUT incident*:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5136/5444049222_93704c140c_b.jpg

*NOTE: - 5 shot panorama, where I didn't really hvae time for change of settings etc as I had my 80-400mm lens on and I wanted the next arrival, which is above!

Brenden S
14th February 2011, 02:16 PM
Well I photographed VUG, VUF in Perth in the past 2 days, and VUM is PB/DJ livery so far.

Rob R
14th February 2011, 09:36 PM
Next 2 E190's to arrive will also be white with the third and final (at this stage) arriving in the new colours.

Joe H
15th February 2011, 08:21 AM
Hey Rob do you know when these new 190's will be arriving? Would be cool to see a white one!

Stefan Perkas
15th February 2011, 09:20 AM
ZPQ was due to arrive into Brisbane today. But now has been delayed. Not sure to when though.

Jon Harris
15th February 2011, 09:22 AM
Do you think 24FEB will be the day they reveal all? It will co-incide with the launch of VA's SYD-AUH service.

Could be a good opportunity...

Rob R
15th February 2011, 09:48 AM
Some things we be revealed very soon.

Nigel S
15th February 2011, 11:48 AM
Little birdie tells me a white E190 is due this week,I've also been told that DJ staff will be wearing new uniforms as from the 23rd which would tally with the announcement of the latest financials which is also due on the 23rd.
Cheers
Nigel S

Andrew P
15th February 2011, 01:27 PM
which may mean that the financials are not good, so lets lose that bad press in a new product launch etc etc

Kelvin R
15th February 2011, 02:06 PM
Under ASX rules of continuous disclosure if the numbers were "not good" then DJ cannot wait until the 23rd to announce these.

http://www.asx.com.au/resources/listing_rules.htm
ASX Listing Rules

All listed corporations must continue to meet certain requirements in order to be listed on ASX.

ASX Listing Rules include:

•Continuous Disclosure. Companies must immediately notify ASX if there is any information likely to affect the share price.

So I think you can put to rest that theory?

Rob R
15th February 2011, 02:26 PM
VB already put out a media statement a few weeks back saying it's 6 monthly profits will be lower than forecast due to the IT problem and the weather issues on Qld. So the figures that come out next week will not be a big surprise.

Andrew P
15th February 2011, 02:37 PM
so Kevin then the figures will not be good, so lets divert the press

so theory still stands

Robert S
15th February 2011, 09:37 PM
You can keep flogging that dead horse until it turns into glue Andrew - the fact is the continuous disclosure rules exist and have been applied as previously pointed out to you. The market has already factored in their expectations based on the revised guidance (http://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20110125/pdf/41wbypjtwfgmz0.pdf) issued after the close of the period being reported. It really ain't going to change markedly from there no matter how much you may wish it to.

The updates to the game change strategy have been long heralded to come out at this time.

Brian Wilkes
16th February 2011, 08:16 AM
Anyone know of when VUZ will return to service?

Andrew P
16th February 2011, 09:26 AM
Robert

As the saying goes, “the devil is in the details”

Continuous disclosure rules are needed, but show me any company that uses such rules to disclose the details such as:- Segmental reporting, Cash flow, short term outlook, dividend cover (if any), EBIT, effective tax rate, inventory levels & turns, debt and interest paid.

I could go on for pages of facts that come out in Interim and Final Announcements, as well as the Annual Report. These facts rarely come out in special one off ASX announcements.

Just look at the number of share prices that move when Interim and Final announcements are announced.

So as for Virgin Blue, what financial information is announced will be read with interest by the serious press and the analysts: even its 25 January profit warning said an update will be provided in this week’s announcement.

So as to the announcement what is the better headlines in the popular press:- profit down/flat or the new Virgin name brand future etc etc.

If I was management the 2nd is much more desirable. (The average punter in the street has no idea Virgin Blue is announcing a new branding etc)

Banjo

Paul f.
16th February 2011, 07:06 PM
Anyone know of when VUZ will return to service?Its still in service from Marty H no livery yet.

Brian Wilkes
16th February 2011, 07:15 PM
Going by the ibhomeradar.com web site she has not moved from Melbourne since the 13th!

If this is correct it does not take that long to slap some decals on it, and was wondering if it could be the first full livery a/c. That is if it's still in Melbourne?

Tim Bowrey
16th February 2011, 08:43 PM
VUZ's last service was 13FEB11 SYD-MEL as DJ892 and will be out up and down the east coast tomorrow.

Brock Little
16th February 2011, 09:37 PM
Have you got a full schedule of its flights for tomorrow Tim? It would be very much appreciated! :)

Robert S
16th February 2011, 10:39 PM
So as to the announcement what is the better headlines in the popular press:- profit down/flat or the new Virgin name brand future etc etc.

If I was management the 2nd is much more desirable. (The average punter in the street has no idea Virgin Blue is announcing a new branding etc)

The average punter in the street doesn't have any ability to influence VBA's share price, nor gives a flying toss about it or their financials. With no rebranding announcement, such news would not escape from the business pages and as such needs no "cover story".

Those that do care about their financials aren't going to be in the least bit distracted by a rebranding announcement.

Your argument is fundamentally ridiculous (as is every other pointless airline/airframe bashing post because it's the "other").

Tim Bowrey
17th February 2011, 04:04 AM
Have you got a full schedule of its flights for tomorrow Tim? It would be very much appreciated! :)

Not coming to OOL at this stage today Brock. MEL-BNE-MEL-HBA-MEL currently.

Brock Little
17th February 2011, 06:16 AM
Not coming to OOL at this stage today Brock.

Good, I don't want it arriving while I'm at school! :p

Bernie P
17th February 2011, 07:26 AM
I heard on the radio this morning, that Elle McPherson will be in twon next week, at the uniform launch for VB, where they will be showcasing new uniforms, with SRB...

So, maybe next week all shall be revealed??

Andrew P
17th February 2011, 11:12 AM
Your argument is fundamentally ridiculous

please see PM, as your comments are not worth commenting on in public

Tim Bowrey
17th February 2011, 12:13 PM
VUZ in the hanger in MEL in her new livery. Photo by Virgin Blue itself. Its pretty much exactly the same design as VUY.

Erik H. Bakke
17th February 2011, 01:07 PM
I wonder if the design elements common to VUY and VUZ will also feature in the new livery. Except for the tail, of course, which will surely be a bit more decorated than now.

Will H
17th February 2011, 01:13 PM
I heard on the radio this morning, that Elle McPherson will be in twon next week, at the uniform launch for VB, where they will be showcasing new uniforms, with SRB...

So, maybe next week all shall be revealed??

Next week for the big reveal has been the key date for, literally, months.

Don't forget it's considerable effort for VB to assemble execs and PR for big announcements like results, re-branding, launch flights, etc. Best to do it all in one go.

Todd Hendry
17th February 2011, 02:31 PM
Would the livery leave enough room for the Virgin Atlantic type tail?

Andrew Coggan
17th February 2011, 03:18 PM
VUZ in the hanger in MEL in her new livery. Photo by Virgin Blue itself. Its pretty much exactly the same design as VUY.


any word on when she will be coming to sydney?

Ian Gains
17th February 2011, 03:37 PM
Soon !!!!!!!!!

Brian Wilkes
17th February 2011, 04:42 PM
On her way to Sydney this arvo from Melbourne!

Lukas M
17th February 2011, 06:09 PM
2nd photo brilliant.

any word on when she will be coming to sydney?
settle! you guys get enough in syd, let us mel folks get some of the action.

Tim Bowrey
17th February 2011, 07:22 PM
Came in this arvo from MEL then went out to BNE where it will overnight. The weather deffinatly changed for the better!

Brock Little
17th February 2011, 08:00 PM
It'll be coming to OOL tomorrow...don't know what time though!

Tim Bowrey
17th February 2011, 08:13 PM
1235 from SYD Brock then back at 1730.

Brock Little
17th February 2011, 08:19 PM
Thanks Tim!

Bernie P
18th February 2011, 08:24 AM
Next week for the big reveal has been the key date for, literally, months.

Don't forget it's considerable effort for VB to assemble execs and PR for big announcements like results, re-branding, launch flights, etc. Best to do it all in one go.

I know that it has been listed for weeks :D I was just saying the Ms McPherson WILL be in town for the event, as reported, next week!! :D :D

Jon B
18th February 2011, 08:21 PM
I was asking the staff at the Lounge entry in Syd last night about when they will get the new uniforms. One of them did say she was attending / participating in the launch next week on Wednesday i think 23/2.

Will H
19th February 2011, 10:33 PM
I was asking the staff at the Lounge entry in Syd last night about when they will get the new uniforms. One of them did say she was attending / participating in the launch next week on Wednesday i think 23/2.

Given the non-disclosure agreements, she shouldn't have said anything. ;)

But yes, that's correct. 23 Feb official unveiling, although all crew will start wearing the new uniform that day.

22 Feb--last day to see the old uniform!

AaronBradford
20th February 2011, 07:48 AM
Given the non-disclosure agreements, she shouldn't have said anything. ;)

Doesn't sound like she breached any NDAs, all she said was that she was attending. No details about the actual contents ;)

Jon B
20th February 2011, 09:41 AM
For clarity nothing more than the date of the launch was mentioned and that they had an invitation. This has been public knowledge as per posts on this board for sometime. I would not think the staff who i was talking to did anything to breach an NDA, ie they did not say yes its next week at venue x etc etc. I was just joking with the staff that i would be in Sydney on the day of the launch so was expecting an invitation!!! - obviously it has got lost in the mail as it hasnt arrived yet!:rolleyes:

Will H - on re reading your post i assume you were not that serious about the NDA breach either.

Will H
20th February 2011, 12:43 PM
No, I was serious. Crews have told me they're not even supposed to acknowledge the new uniform.

But then again there are public secrets.

Mark B
20th February 2011, 02:13 PM
No, I was serious. Crews have told me they're not even supposed to acknowledge the new uniform.

Sometimes staff can only do so much to avoid answering a question, without coming across rude.

Joe Frampton
20th February 2011, 08:30 PM
Maybe DJ could invest in a backup generator for their res system before their flash relaunch.

:eek: I bet there were some angry words today.

Chris B.
20th February 2011, 10:50 PM
22 Feb--last day to see the old uniform!


To be more accurate the flight crew uniform will be gone first. Ground crew will be a few months yet. Although I must say the new uniform does look quite schmick! ;)

Chris W
20th February 2011, 11:37 PM
Now all they need is a foreign dictator as CEO to reign in their debt levels and lower staff morale just like a normal airline....oh wait!

BradR
22nd February 2011, 10:56 AM
As part of the rebranding that we all expect to announced tomorrow, is it likely that they will have a plane in the new livery or is the current fleet fully accounted for and all we can reasonably expect is graphics of what the new livery will look like?

Assuming Will's rumors are correct regarding the uniforms, maybe the livery will also be very similar to the new VS livery which would look great on an A330 but billboard name may look a bit strange on a 737!!

Rob R
22nd February 2011, 12:06 PM
Don't expect everything to be revealed tomorrow.

AaronBradford
22nd February 2011, 01:21 PM
Don't expect everything to be revealed tomorrow.

That would just be silly! ;)

AaronBradford
23rd February 2011, 07:44 AM
A co-worker of mine advises me that she has a friend who works for Virgin Blue, and they've said there will be blue mood lighting in the cabin. :)

Daniel M
23rd February 2011, 08:20 AM
New uniforms are out today...anyone thats seen then, what are your thoughts?!

I like them personally...they all look quite professional, not sure about the mens vests though....looks as though they are in a wedding bridal party :confused:

Michael Morrison
23rd February 2011, 09:02 AM
Dont like the mens - VS do it much nicer.

Ladies is Nice - but the purple scarf looks big!

Nigel S
23rd February 2011, 09:03 AM
ASX media release available here:

http://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20110223/pdf/41wyyh3mshtl5s.pdf

Cheers
Nigel S

Jack B
23rd February 2011, 09:04 AM
Purple scarf is ridiculous - is it an optional accessory? I sure hope so!

The red dress, however, is very slick. Reminds me of the 1967 American Airlines uniform.

The mens uniform would not look out of place at a wedding.

Ryan K
23rd February 2011, 09:18 AM
I like the uniforms. They're smart and have almost gone back to a time when air travel was a more classy affair than it is today.

Ryan K
23rd February 2011, 09:20 AM
ASX media release available here:

http://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20110223/pdf/41wyyh3mshtl5s.pdf

Cheers
Nigel S

It also states that there will be two additional lounges by the end of 2011. Any ideas where these might be? I'd love to see one in HBA to compete with the Qantas Club here.

Anthony T
23rd February 2011, 09:35 AM
Coolangatta is first, due 4th quarter 2011

Ryan K
23rd February 2011, 09:41 AM
I read it as Coolangatta and then an additional two lounges. Surely HBA, CNS or LST would have to be the front runners?

Rob R
23rd February 2011, 09:44 AM
So what do you think of the new uniform? I can tell you it's a big thumbs up from the flight crew:)

Alex Lui
23rd February 2011, 09:53 AM
I like the new uniforms. Look very nice and yes, reminds me of the good ol' days of travel. The Business class cabin is (I am pretty sure) just Emirates Business class just re upholstered. Still, it will give Qantas's Domesitc Business product a run for their money (hence Qantas deploying the 744 to compete I reckon).

Any news on the new economy product or will that remain the same? It said in the report that new products were going around...

Any news on the new livery and logo as yet?

Alex.

Oliver Gigacz
23rd February 2011, 09:57 AM
Glad to see they ordered the ATR 500s and 600s.

Rob R
23rd February 2011, 10:26 AM
Roll out of new domestic cabin with business class prior to 31 DEC 2011, however product unveiling prior to 30 June 2011.

New name prior to 30 June 2011.

Regading the uniform, male flight crew have the option have getting company issued airport friendly R.M. Williams boots, which most have taken:)

Will H
23rd February 2011, 10:34 AM
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/wings-down-under/assets_c/2011/02/VB%20Uniform-1-thumb-560x375-116729.jpg

More pics here from this morning's event and I'll try to add more later: http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/wings-down-under/2011/02/photos-virgin-blue-unveils-new-uniform.html

Gareth U
23rd February 2011, 11:07 AM
The Business class cabin is (I am pretty sure) just Emirates Business class just re upholstered.

Yes. That is the newly-refurbished J product on Emirates' A332 and A343 fleet. The seat model is the same as Qantas' old Dreamtime seat. It is 2-3-2. Around 4-5 years ago Emirates increased the pitch from 42" to 60". This product is still very competitive against Qantas' domestic config (even the domestic 2-2-2 on EBM-N) as the pitch and seat features are much better than Qantas' domestic products.

Will Qantas have the advantage as they will soon have 'no middle seat (again)'? Or is Virgin planning 2-2-2 as well? The images provided show only the outboard seats - it seems they are 'hiding' something.

BradR
23rd February 2011, 12:29 PM
Gareth, I don't believe QF have ever had a Dreamtime seat on its A330s. It has only had the Millenium domestic J class seats and the sleepers.

DJ's challenge is to be able to pitch its product so it attracts corporates across the plane. VX has done this with a great product throughout the cabin and I'm sure Borghetti is modelling the new DJ very much on VX though I'm sure it is easier to fit J class seats in an A320's width compared to a 737.

It seems that the new product will be 3 class (a-la-VX). The mid product (Y+) is available in exit rows and the first row of Y. It has extra room and free IFE (I think??).

It is interesting the VA is getting product enhancements in 2012. VA is a great product so it will be interesting to see what the enhancements will be.

Gareth U
23rd February 2011, 05:25 PM
Gareth, I don't believe QF have ever had a Dreamtime seat on its A330s. It has only had the Millenium domestic J class seats and the sleepers.

Firstly, Qantas also had two other seat types in J on the A330-200s in addition to the Skybed and Millennium (all gone to Jetstar now).

Secondly, I was referring to the international-configured 763s, which have the Dreamtime seat. This is the same seat model as Emirates' J seats on their 332 and 343s, which are (apparently) being used initially by Emirates.

D Chan
23rd February 2011, 07:16 PM
was expecting a little bit more with both the new uniforms and seats... the uniform is ok but I like their old one more,
cant wait to see the new livery / rebrand

Robert S
23rd February 2011, 09:23 PM
It is interesting the VA is getting product enhancements in 2012. VA is a great product so it will be interesting to see what the enhancements will be.

This was my reaction also... it's already pretty awesome.

Bob C
23rd February 2011, 10:31 PM
A bit of an anti climax but at least the ATRs have been confirmed.

I didn't mind the old flight and cabin crew uniforms as they had a fresh and "cool" look about them. But I guess they had to go as VB is moving away from being a LCC to more of a full service carrier so the new uniforms have to reflect that change and show more of a corporate image to the great and the good who will be using Business Class.

And I can't help thinking that there is a distinct Virgin Atlantic look about them.

Roll on the next few months when all will be revealed.

Rob R
24th February 2011, 03:58 PM
My guess is May for the annoucment,with both the ATR and A330 arriving.

D Chan
24th February 2011, 08:38 PM
based on the purple on the uniform I wonder if there's a good chance the new font / livery would have purple fonts like Virgin Atlantic instead of the blue on the current DJ logo

Peter Agatsiotis
25th February 2011, 08:40 PM
Noticed at SYD today, VH-VUG is now wearing 'Airline of Virgin Blue' decals.

Will H
26th February 2011, 05:39 PM
And I can't help thinking that there is a distinct Virgin Atlantic look about them.

Think?

You would have a hard time convincing people they're not VS-like. ;)

Will H
26th February 2011, 05:40 PM
Also noteworthy: it looks like an E190 will soon become an AFL logojet.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/248308769.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1298706696&Signature=lwZP14pLXXL3LmBLqPCma7MmPpQ%3D

http://twitter.com/VirginBlue/status/41362722356465664

Jack B
26th February 2011, 05:49 PM
Also noteworthy: it looks like an E190 will soon become an AFL logojet.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/248308769.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1298706696&Signature=lwZP14pLXXL3LmBLqPCma7MmPpQ%3D

http://twitter.com/VirginBlue/status/41362722356465664

....great....one was enough!

Peter Agatsiotis
26th February 2011, 05:51 PM
Any idea which one this is (ZPQ arrived in Bne all white)?

Brock Little
26th February 2011, 07:58 PM
Any idea which one this is (ZPQ arrived in Bne all white)?

Seen the all-white Embraer VH-ZPQ around? She'll look a bit different shortly!

From the tweet, it sounds like it'll be VH-ZPQ.

Torin Wilson
2nd March 2011, 06:27 PM
The airline’s brand consultant, Hans Hulsbosch, told The Australian that while the Virgin brand would continue to anchor the airline, Blue would no longer be part of it.

http://atwonline.com/airline-finance-data/news/virgin-blue-drop-blue-part-rebranding-0301

D Chan
2nd March 2011, 08:02 PM
http://atwonline.com/airline-finance-data/news/virgin-blue-drop-blue-part-rebranding-0301

he mustve got paid a fortune just to drop the 'blue' word :D

Andrew M
2nd March 2011, 10:33 PM
Was thinking the exact same thing!

Ash W
3rd March 2011, 03:12 AM
he mustve got paid a fortune just to drop the 'blue' word :D

More to the point how much did Singapore airlines get paid to allow DJ to use the word Virgin outside of Australia? (where clearly the word Blue makes less sense)

AaronBradford
8th March 2011, 06:04 PM
Virgin Blue just posted this on their Facebook page:
If you are flying with us tomorrow, you'll be seeing more than just our new cabin crew uniforms on board....

Anyone know what it's about?

Andrew M
8th March 2011, 06:13 PM
Yep just saw that too on Facebragger!

Hmmmmm

Brock Little
8th March 2011, 06:24 PM
I think new menus sound quite likely.

Andrew M
8th March 2011, 06:40 PM
I'll go with menus, as it mentions "onboard" so it's going to apply to all flights.

I have a flight with DJ this weekend so let's see what's on offer!!!

Exciting times ahead

damian f
8th March 2011, 07:01 PM
Ok sorry to perhaps rehash some previous posts here... but can anyone confirm the VB/PB aircraft that have the revised "Airline of..." titles.

Many thanks!
Damian

Tim Bowrey
8th March 2011, 07:21 PM
but can anyone confirm the VB/PB aircraft that have the revised "Airline of..." titles.

All of the Aussie rego Pacific Blue aircraft Damian. VOX, VOQ, VUG, VUM, VUN, and VUF

Bob C
8th March 2011, 07:53 PM
I haven't seen this reported before so apologise if it has.

I've been wondering why the titles "Airline of Virgin Blue" have been applied to Pacific Blue "VH-" registered aircraft and have posed the question to several usually reliable people and have received the same answer.

The Indonsesians gave Virgin Blue the rights to fly to Denspassar but were not happy when Pacific Blue aircraft started appearing. So things were said in high places and the additional "Airline of Virgin Blue" titles were the result.

But what happens after the rebranding is anyone's guess.

Rob R
8th March 2011, 08:20 PM
It's not uniforms, it's changes on board.

Brian Wilkes
8th March 2011, 08:52 PM
A smile!

Rob R
8th March 2011, 09:03 PM
There have always been smiles on board at Virgin Blue, something you hardly ever see at Qantas. Did my first Qantas flight in 12 months and found the ground staff friendly, but once on board it all changed. Rude cabin crew no smiles. If a free drink, an apple and some nuts is full service than Virgin Blue doesn't have to do much to beat them.

Brian Wilkes
9th March 2011, 01:39 PM
What is then, the name?

Andrew M
9th March 2011, 02:40 PM
do tell! Name please

Jakef
9th March 2011, 03:47 PM
There have always been smiles on board at Virgin Blue, something you hardly ever see at Qantas. Did my first Qantas flight in 12 months and found the ground staff friendly, but once on board it all changed. Rude cabin crew no smiles. If a free drink, an apple and some nuts is full service than Virgin Blue doesn't have to do much to beat them.

Well just to add my experience with Qantas domestic has been brilliant. Last time I flew I ended up being given seat 1A on their Q400, and on the long taxi to the runway the flight attendant sitting up front was very eager to have a chat about the new A380's.

Rob R
9th March 2011, 04:05 PM
A Q400 flight is not a Qantas donestic flight, it's a regional flight operated by Sunstate or Eastern cabin crew and not Qantas mainline. Regional cabin crew have always been friendly it's the nature of the flying they do and they get to know the regular passengers. So you didn't have a good experience on a Qantas domestic flight.

Mike W
9th March 2011, 05:56 PM
Big rumours over on a.net about "Virgin Australia"

I can't work out if it's real or not. Thoughts anyone?

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/5087074/

Jayden Laing
9th March 2011, 06:20 PM
People will talk & speculate but lets just wait & let the truth speak itself once everything is announced!!!

Thats my 2 bobs worth!!!:)

Andrew M
9th March 2011, 06:36 PM
Must say the prices of the food seem very $$$$$

Chris W
9th March 2011, 06:47 PM
Did they also change contracts to Pepsi, or is it just my lack of attention to detail and they already serve it?

Jakef
9th March 2011, 06:49 PM
A Q400 flight is not a Qantas donestic flight, it's a regional flight operated by Sunstate or Eastern cabin crew and not Qantas mainline. Regional cabin crew have always been friendly it's the nature of the flying they do and they get to know the regular passengers. So you didn't have a good experience on a Qantas domestic flight.

Fair enough, Will get back to you when I take a real QF domestic flight then :)

Andrew M
9th March 2011, 06:52 PM
Did they also change contracts to Pepsi, or is it just my lack of attention to detail and they already serve it?

Nope you are correct they have changed from Coke to Pepsi

This reminds me of United Airlines and their constant changing...

Rob R
9th March 2011, 06:55 PM
Yes they have done a deal with Pepsi.

Andrew M
9th March 2011, 06:59 PM
New menu is here http://vlicious.realviewtechnologies.com/

Now that I am home and have re-read the menu...

$15 for breakfast
Banana Bread
Golden Circle Fruit Pack
Hot Drink
Cold Drink

$15 for a pie with a beer OR wine...

So then the value of a Qantas meal is about $20-$25 ++

Funny how the price of a Qantas seat on say MEL-SYD is about the same once you factor in luggage and food on DJ..........

I'll wait for the launch of their "full service" product and see what happens to prices before bagging them out anymore...

Jakef
9th March 2011, 07:05 PM
I hope that the full service move does not push prices up to the Qantas level...

Paul f.
9th March 2011, 07:27 PM
Big rumours over on a.net about "Virgin Australia"

I can't work out if it's real or not. Thoughts anyone?

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/5087074/Not very hard to work it out, they already got the livery flying around in form of V Australia all they have to add to the livery is" irgin"
as they already have the V.:p

Tim Bowrey
9th March 2011, 07:45 PM
add to the livery is" irgin"
as they already have the V.:p

Looks like they stole the letter 'V' off VH-VUM:p

Jayden Laing
9th March 2011, 08:10 PM
I have noticed that all the one's that have had their Pac Blue livery changed are missing the letter "V" on the same side as your photo Tim. Something maybe preventing them putting the letter "V" on??

Cam L
9th March 2011, 09:03 PM
is it just me or does VB like wednesdays to announce new things???? Aka everything else EXCEPT what we all actually want to know????

D Chan
9th March 2011, 09:17 PM
are they going to use the "V" from V Australia?

Michael Morrison
10th March 2011, 01:43 AM
New menu is here

Funny how the price of a Qantas seat on say MEL-SYD is about the same once you factor in luggage and food on DJ..........



And if QF and DJ were the same price (once you include a bag and food) I would definately choose Virgin as the quality of the food offering (for the same price) would exceed that of QF.

Steve Jones
10th March 2011, 08:43 PM
I flew VB this morning PER-MEL and tried the Banana bread & Luke Mangan juice and they were really tasty. They also had an additional item that was not on the menu - ice cream sandwich. Not the best in terms of calories (!)but absolutely delicious. I think it will be the runaway winner on the new menu.

Also good to see some of the old favourites such as cheese and crackers and nuts have stayed.

Mike W
13th March 2011, 12:24 PM
I think the main issue with the report is The Daily Telegraph reported.

That rag only exists to sell advertising and emulate the equally bad TV shows on Nine and Seven at 6.30 every night.

Jack B
13th March 2011, 12:55 PM
I seem to recall something similar with Qantas when they introduced the Morrissey uniforms back in '03. Something about the dresses being a fire hazard...

Dan Hammond
13th March 2011, 02:29 PM
Makes me wonder if any airline can launch something new or fresh without any of the media using words such as problem, troubled or hazard. Just seems to me out of alot of the positive announcements by airlines they are usually followed by a negative story.

Will H
15th March 2011, 09:59 AM
Crews are having irritation problems. It's not with everyone and whether it's a permanent issue or something that goes away with washes and skin adjusting is yet to be seen.

As for the uniform design, I've heard it's actually more flexible in allowing crews to reach up to bins, etc.

Paul f.
15th March 2011, 11:53 AM
I asked a male F/A in the new uniform the other day whereabouts did he park the hearse.:D

Cam L
15th March 2011, 06:30 PM
i flew home to adelaide from melbourne on flight DJ227 today and it was on VH-VUN, a pacific blue aircraft with the horrid ''airline of virgin blue'' titles on the sides. I was surprised to see it operating domestically. I couldn't see VH-XFA anywhere though. VUY was there and VUZ was yesterday. Anyone know info on VUN or XFA???

Brock Little
15th March 2011, 06:39 PM
VUN and VUF have been operating domestically for the last week from my viewpoint.
As for XFA, she might be in the hangars?

Lukas M
15th March 2011, 06:42 PM
XFA is down JH way in front of the hangers.

Brian Wilkes
15th March 2011, 07:38 PM
VH-ZHA (E170) was also seen at the JH hangers yesterday with engines all taped up like it's being ready for long term storage!

Rob R
15th March 2011, 08:51 PM
Both ZHA and ZHF have disappeared from the daily running sheets, with the current operational 170 fleet only showing 4 aircraft.

Tim Bowrey
16th March 2011, 04:04 AM
Both ZHA and ZHF have disappeared from the daily running sheets, with the current operational 170 fleet only showing 4 aircraft.

Hi Rob,
You might be able to confirm this but I beleive ZHA finished service over the weekend and ZHB will be next. I think ZHF is staying until later in the year and will be the last one to go.

Rob R
16th March 2011, 02:28 PM
Looks like ZHF was off line for some maintenance as it's back flying today. Does look like ZHA last line flight was on the weekend as it's still showing blank for any flying.

I did warn everyone a few weeks back the 170's were leaving sooner rather than later.

Jon B
16th March 2011, 04:50 PM
DJ 803 the 6am flight from Mel to Syd has normally been a E170 but Tuesday was 737 - 800 and it was full. Hope the Embraers make a come back as at least once a month we have to catch this early flight and i do like the Embraers. Commented on this on boarding to the ground staff - he agreed they have a nice "vibe" as he put it.

Rob R
16th March 2011, 05:30 PM
John,

You will see the Ejets on the Mel -Syd routes over the next few months, it could be a 170 or 190.

Brock Little
17th March 2011, 04:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVmtOXc0Ux0&feature=feedu

Here's a short clip of VUZ getting painted in her GC Suns decals.

Radi K
17th March 2011, 10:12 PM
Can confirm ZHA will no longer fly for VB in commercial service

Departs April 7 for the USA.

Radi K
17th March 2011, 10:16 PM
Forgot to add VOA left a few weeks back, VOC last week and VBA/VBB in the next two weeks.

All going to WMSA in Malaysia then onto their lessors.

YFC due early April after getting some mods in Tucson I'm told.

Steve S... 2
18th March 2011, 08:31 AM
Hi...

So am I correct to say that VOA, VOB, VOC & VOD are the only 738's leaving the fleet?

Which of the 737-700's are to leave the fleet besides VBA, VBB, VBQ, VBR & VBS... pls?

Thanks and regards,

Steve S.

Ryan Hothersall
18th March 2011, 08:49 AM
I understand all the 737-7Q8s are going, but don't know about the other 700s.

Zac M
18th March 2011, 12:57 PM
Over the next few years I am pretty sure most of the leases of the 737-700s and VO series 800s (the leased ones) are up, that would mean all 700s except VBY and VBZ and all VO series 800s before VOK, someone will correct me if I am wrong.

Cam L
3rd April 2011, 11:17 PM
VH-YFC due in Tuesday, no new livery as is all white, has new SKY interior. As reported by flight global.

Robert S
3rd April 2011, 11:42 PM
I'm assuming it still has no IFE either.

On my flight down to Melbourne on VH-VUX last week they didn't even bother turning the audio "Blue Beats" system on. Returning on VH-VUY yesterday it was on and they were offering headsets.

To be honest to/from MEL it's only mildly annoying (really I just like the map). I had VH-VUV over to Perth last year and that was irritating, though admittedly made for a very peaceful flight.

Steve S... 2
4th April 2011, 09:33 AM
This sounds funny but VH-YFC does not suit Virgin - I am used to the V's... :o)

Rob R
7th April 2011, 11:43 AM
Check out Virgin Atlantic's new colours on their first A330, it could be clue for the new colours.

Steve S... 2
7th April 2011, 11:55 AM
G'day I just checked out the VS A330. It looks very basic!

I am hoping they go for the V Australia livery.

But considering the new aircraft are plain white, it makes sense what you said Rob. But very bland livery - that VS livery! Not a good move in my opinion if DJ ends up similar to that - no class about it at all. What a waste of money and paint.

Steve S... 2
7th April 2011, 12:00 PM
Nah... my gut is telling me they may go for the V Australia look. Fantastic if they do - some style.

Rob R
8th April 2011, 05:44 PM
If what I heard today about the colours and design is true, look out as it will be a nice change:D

Mark D.
8th April 2011, 09:27 PM
[QUOTE=Rob R;58664]If what I heard today about the colours and design is true, look out as it will be a nice change:D[/QUOTE
You have posted that twice now, so spit it out, what did you hear, and from who???
Lety me tell some tales too, its going to be all the same colour on the fuselage, the tail will be a different colour to what V Aust and DJ have now, its going to look different to what we are used to. Some bloke said that today. GRrrrr speculation and guesses. Just chill out and wait LOL, oh, and YFC will be the first, and YFC has significance in it rego, but Im not going to say what it is, but it is soooo exciting