B744 To Replace A333 on BNE-SIN-BNE

[Brad Myer]

Hi,

Looking at the schedules it seems the B744 will replace the A333 on the daily BNE-SIN-BNE flight for MAY to JUL 2011.

I cant find any additional A333 flying so I assume its due to A333 mx requirements?

[Will H]

Or projected higher traffic with pax going to warm Europe?

[Jason H]

Might be due to increased demand, perhaps only from this year as they have more A380s to replace 744 flights

[lloyd fox]

Some parts of Europe in summer are not as warm as Brisbane in winter ???:)

Look i have been aware of this for some time and expect another surprise oput of BNE later in the year on BNE-LAX.

[Brad Myer]

Look i have been aware of this for some time and expect another surprise oput of BNE later in the year on BNE-LAX.

The B744 on the BNE-SIN-BNE is only for 3 months.

I can find no increase in other A333 flying Intl or Domestic which makes me think it’s just an aircraft sub due to A333 maintenance.

Thanks

[Will H]

QF announced this morning SYD-NRT will go from 744 to A330.

Perhaps this explains the BNE-SIN change.

I haven't seen an end date for the SYD-NRT change, but it looks like it corresponds with the 744 going on BNE-SIN.

[Jason Carruthers]

09MAY is the first day for the 744 on QF51/52. Last day is 04JUL the A330 returns from 05JUL

I wonder how this fits in with the planned seasonal upgrade for Brisbane-Darwin services as I understand the A330 was going to be rotated QF52/QF824/QF825/QF97 the current schedule remains unchanged and I highly doubt a A330 is going to sitting on the ground in between the 2 weekly flights. I suspect the flight might be rescheduled a couple of hours later so the inbound QF98 and operate QF824/QF825 and be back in time to operate QF97

[Brad Myer]

I would guess the BNE-DRW-BNE will revert back to an all domestic B763 service.

SYD-NRT-SYD changes from daily B744, to 4x A330 and 3x B744 service.

PER-NRT-PER is gone.

Thanks

[Jarden S]

PER-NRT gone thats a real shame demand gone down must be a result of tsunami and other factors I presume.

[Kelvin R]

Does anyone know where the SIN-BOM 333 is coming from, as I understand that this aircraft operated from BNE? However since the change SIN-BOM is still the 333.

I don't quite understand why QF doesn't introduce premium economy to the international 330 fleet as this swapping between 747 and 333 for Asian flying (not to mention AKL-LAX-JFK) is a real hole in the QF product offering.

[Stefan Perkas]

By the looks the aircraft will go ADL-SIN-BOM-SIN-ADL QF81/51/52/82. As the days it operates to and from BOM coincide with the days QF81/82 operates. I stand corrected on this.

[Justin L]

I thought the ADL-SIN aircraft alternated with the SYD-CGK flights (hence the ADL-SYD tag to SIN-ADL).

I am happy to stand corrected, but when I flew SYD-CGK a few years back there was a SIN-ADL boarding pass stub in the seat pocket, and when I looked at the schedules, the different flight days of each sector made that assumption work.

But I do remember the ADL-SIN flight days were changed to coincide with the SIN-BOM flights so they connected, so maybe now that's not the case.

[Stefan Perkas]

QF82 on monday's goes SIN-ADL-SYD. QF81 on tuesdays goes SYD-ADL-SIN. On Thursday's and Saturday's QF82 stays on the ground for around 6 hours and goes back as QF81 to Singapore.

[Gareth U]

The ADL-SIN and SIN-ADL days of operation is what allows for the SIN-BOM-SIN tag. The actual aircraft operating the QF51/52 can come from (or continue to) ADL, BNE (744 ops notwithstanding) or PER on any given day.

[Brad Myer]

How will this B744 be rotated?

It can't be rotated with QF5/6 as QF5 arrives after QF52 departs?

[Jason Carruthers]

I'd imagine on 09MAY it would position from SYD and just do QF51/52 rotations and then position back down to SYD 05JUL. It could also do QF15/16 with 3 aircraft alternating between the two flights.

[Jason H]

I agree, most likely would be QF16/51/52/15

[Brad Myer]

But QF15/16 is currently operated by 4 class pacific B744s which rotate in LAX with the QF107/108. The B744 that will operate the QF51/52 will be the 2 class or the newly converted 3 class B744s

[Jason H]

Brad, currently 4 cabin 744s are frequent visitors to BNE as QF15/16 for who knows what reason as BNE-LAX is only a 3 cabin sector. I'd imagine that in May these will go back to 2/3 cabin aircraft to facilitate the QF51/52. So they will operate BNE-LAX-BNE-SIN-BNE in a loop and ferry down to SYD when required.....just my thoughts

[lloyd fox]

The aircraft will be a 371 seater on both routes except for 2 days when it will be 307 seats.

[Brad Myer]

Thanks.

I assume once the QF51/52 reverts back to A330 the QF15/16 will also revert back to being operated by the 4 class pacific B744s?