PDA

View Full Version : AF A380 hits smaller Delta


Chris Q
12th April 2011, 02:15 PM
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/04/11/air-france-delta-jets-collide-on-ground-at-jfk-airport/

(sorry if repost!)

Mark Grima
12th April 2011, 05:45 PM
Just noticed this on smh.com.au, thats a bit of a woopsy!

Cheers

M

chrisb
12th April 2011, 07:18 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2StZVDUck9M

Mike W
12th April 2011, 07:22 PM
Would there be much damage from that. I ssume yes, to both aircraft...:confused:

Nigel C
12th April 2011, 07:23 PM
"Ladies and gentlemen...the French apron coordinator decided we were on the wrong bay and thought they'd reposition us to enable a faster departure time. Oh....did I mention to fasten your seatbelts?":eek:

Mark D.
12th April 2011, 08:10 PM
BUGGER

Erik H. Bakke
12th April 2011, 09:37 PM
Gives a new meaning to fast turnaround, doesn't it :D

Fred C
13th April 2011, 06:37 AM
Would there be much damage from that. I ssume yes, to both aircraft...:confused:

Oh Yeah. The smaller aircraft won't be going anywhere fast. :eek:

The 380 wasn't exactly taxiing slowly.

Philip Argy
13th April 2011, 06:38 AM
Just issued:


The National Transportation Safety Board is investigating a
wing tip clipping that occurred between an Airbus A380 (F-
HPJD) and a Bombardier CRJ-700 (N641CA) at John F. Kennedy
Airport in New York last night.

On April 11, 2011 at 8:25 PM EDT, preliminary reports
indicate that the left wing tip of Air France flight 7
struck the left horizontal stabilizer of Comair flight 293
while the Comair airplane was taxiing to its gate. There
were 485 passengers and 25 crew onboard the Airbus and 52
passengers and 4 crew onboard the CRJ. No injuries were
reported on either aircraft.

The NTSB has requested the fight recorders (cockpit voice
recorder and flight data recorder) from both aircraft and
will review the content of those devices as part of the
investigation. Also, the NTSB will review the air traffic
control tapes and ground movement radar data (ASDE-X). The
damage sustained to both aircraft is still being assessed.

Craig Murray
13th April 2011, 07:13 AM
The 380 wasn't exactly taxiing slowly.

I also noticed this, it seemed to be scooting along at quite a pace which is odd for a heavily congested airport like JFK. How could the crew be so blissfully unaware of the taxiway infringement (ie: the CRJ) considering they had a clear line of sight and also taxi cameras on board the aircraft?

That said I have no doubt that the incident will prompt some anti A380 sentiment within the US. Wait for the headline "Super Jumbo to big for JFK".

Hopefully the USA can afford to fund the investigation into this incident, they are a little short of money at the moment :D

Brock Little
13th April 2011, 07:19 AM
What a violent smash! Perhaps the A380 was on a high-speed taxiway?

Michael Cleary
13th April 2011, 09:19 AM
Just saw another video of this on ABC News 24 (with a different logo to the one on YouTube showing) and it was at about half the speed of the one on YouTube.

Nevertheless, makes you remember that warning to keep seatbelts fastened until at the gate.

Sarah C
13th April 2011, 01:20 PM
Do AF's 380's have tail cam - would have been interesting from that view!

Fred C
13th April 2011, 03:26 PM
"Tail Cam" doesn't allow pilots or passengers to see the wingtips.;)

Andrew P
13th April 2011, 04:57 PM
To me it looked as if AF was about 4 metres to the right of the green taxi way lights

Andrew Coggan
13th April 2011, 06:29 PM
On the news today (unsure of which channel but I think 7) they compared it to the QF32 incident :eek: I just don't see how one could do that, they are nothing alike :confused:

Jason H
13th April 2011, 06:51 PM
I love how ten news gave the subtitles to the ATC transmission as "evacuate 3-2 taxiway mike" instead of "respond call 3-2 taxiway mike". Just throw in some scary words to make it seem worse:D

Philip Argy
6th September 2012, 01:37 AM
I'm a bit surprised to see this formal recommendation from the NTSB - I'd have thought airport ground controllers could devise taxi routing and/or aircraft parking positions to avoid this kind of collision, but here it is in black and white:

Recommendation Letter to the FAA (http://www.ntsb.gov/doclib/recletters/2012/A-12-048-049.pdf)


:)