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Ryan N
5th January 2013, 08:35 AM
http://www.news.com.au/world/passengers-duct-taped-mad-man-to-seat-after-he-attacked-them-on-flight-from-iceland-to-new-york/story-fndir2ev-1226547961274

Adrian B
8th January 2013, 11:03 AM
Saw the photo on another website, what an incredibly stupid thing to do.

No issue with him being restrained, however duct tape across the mouth is very very dangerous. Given the gutfull of alcohol he has obviously had. if he vomited he would have choked to death to say the least.

http://images.theage.com.au/2013/01/07/3935313/art-353-Bound-Passenger-300x0.jpg
Image from Herald Sun website

Also why not drop him off at another diverison. Why continue to Kennedy when you have Boston, Portland, and several other majors along the 2300NM trip?

Just asking thats all. Again no issue being restrained.

Dave Dale
8th January 2013, 01:28 PM
Adrian, I respectfully disagree. I believe the actions of the passengers were justified and reasonable in the circumstances. It is obvious of the consequences you speak should he vomit. However, fear is a real emotion, one which can transform reasonable people into panic stricken, uncontrollable persons, especially when it comes to getting away from the threat. In a plane, you cannot just run away, 'fight or flight'. A plane with many passengers stressed into fear from an unruly passenger can have greater consequences. The restraint of any unruly passenger by any means gives an obvious indication that the threat of this person is high risk, outcome is unknown should he not be restrained. In my view, choking on his own vomit may be the lesser of two evils. The way he was restrained, well, he after all created a situation which required a desired response with whatever resources available.

Dave

Rob R
8th January 2013, 06:29 PM
They have also restrained him to the seat, which is illegal no matter what he has done. Every passenger including those restrained and those under police escort must be able to evacuate the aircraft should the need arise. His lawyer will sue the passengers, cabin crew (for allowing it) and the airline and he will walk away with millions.

Mark Grima
8th January 2013, 08:42 PM
What type of restraints, if any, are on board aircraft and what type of training do cabin crew get?

I agree that the actions of the passengers, as far as taping his mouth and taping him to the seat are inappropriate and illegal.

Not being on board the aircraft make it difficult to comment but there would be no reason at all to tape his mouth shut, none at all. Taping him to the seat, while I disagree with it, I can understand why they did that.

Cheers

M

Rob R
8th January 2013, 10:05 PM
I won't go into specifics but every airline has some type of approved restraining equipment and both cabin and flight crew are trained in their use.

If they felt the need to restrain the passenger the way they did, then I would be looking at diverting to the nearest suitable airport and have police take him off.

Hugh Jarse
10th January 2013, 09:11 AM
I agree with what Rob wrote. Old mate is going to make a motza out of this.

Furthermore (if this is a true story), I'd have to ask who was in control of the cabin during the subdue/restrain event? Where were the cabin crew, and what were they doing? Why didn't they use the approved onboard restraint equipment as they are LEGALLY required to do?