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Being purchased at the same time
Ticket numbers being in sequence I think this is more than just using illegal passports to get somewhere. There saying it could be timed to fit with the opening of parliment. Take a look at www.marinetraffic.com quite a few ships out looking. |
Booking an ongoing flight lowers any suspicion for terror related activity I'm guessing. Besides, if they were planning on destroying the Malaysian flight, missing their connecting flight is hardly a concern for them....
But, it's all speculation. The whole story will come out eventually. |
China may have been the target, to connect with the stabbings at the airport
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/travel/t...-1226849508778 |
More interesting news:
"Investigators have made contact with a missing Chinese passenger's mobile phone, state media reports. Chinese television stations say that a call made by family members DID connect to a mobile number but then cut out. It is now hoped officials can use the mobile phone signal of passengers to locate the missing plane." Source: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...t-live-3219331 |
The onward leg may have been to avoid obtaining a visa for China prior to departure from KUL.
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RAAF C130 will be leaving Darwin for the search area within the hour.
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Or you mean a P3C Orion? Abbott has despatched 2 Orions from Darwin.
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arrrr might be them
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ABC & 7 are reporting search aircraft have spotted debris in the Gulf of Thailand.
The showed a photo, but was only a few pieces so may not even belong to the plane. |
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Vietnam's navy has spotted a floating object about 80 kilometers (50 miles) southwest of Vietnam's Tho Chu Island, which is located off the country's southwest coast in the Gulf of Thailand.
Vietnam National Search and Rescue Committee Spokesman Hung Nguyen told CNN. The object was spotted by a Vietnamese navy rescue aircraft at about 7:30 a.m. ET Sunday (6:30 p.m. local time). Due to the dark, the navy aircraft could not get close enough to identify the floating object, and was recalled to base. Three search and rescue boats have since been deployed to that location. More details: http://avherald.com/h?article=4710c69b&opt=0 |
Possible part of the tail and cabin door spotted
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More I look at this image looks to be maybe an overwing exit door ?
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Doesn't the 772 have all full size doors, and no overwing exits?
Also the size and position of the window doesn't look correct for a door. |
You are correct... looking at the doors on the 200 the window on the door has a different posistion to the one in the possible debrie photo.
I just dont get there is only a tiny piece and nothing more, you would think there would be more debris. Some media outlets are reporting a piece of the tail has been found but no photos |
Nose first plunge?
There are some configurations of ocean impact that leave the fuselage relatively intact ...
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Malaysian authorities are saying the debris is not from the missing plane but will be fished out for proper id.
Read the caption below the debris photo at the following link. http://mobile.news.com.au/travel/tra...-1226849877056 |
Foul play looming as real possibility
These facts about two supposedly unrelated travellers cannot just be serendipitously connected with the disappearance of flight MH370:
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ABC24 just showed the live media conference from Malaysian authorities and they have said all reports of debries are false and as of now
NO PART OF THE AIRCRAFT HAS BEEN FOUND AND THE AIRCRAFT REMAINS MISSING |
sounds like a silly question, but what if the transponder was shut off in the cockpit , is it possible the aircraft would have been forced to land in another country ie Russia or somewhere remote , surely if it crashed into the ocean , another plane or boat would have reported seeing a fire , surely some debris would have floated to the surface by now ,
did the aircraft disappear from Radar ?? would it still show up on Radar if the transponder was turned off ?? |
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Yes it would still show up on radar. All the transponder does is identifies the a/c.
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What it disappears from are radar websites like FlightRadar24 because these websites are not showing real radar information but ADS-B signals. These signals are actively transmitted by the plane if the plane's transponder is on. If the transponder is switched off, the plane doesn't transmit the ADS-B signal anymore. |
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Hence the reason we have SSR and ADSB today. Primary radar had too many limitations :) |
still remains a mystery then ?? news now reports of 5 pax that checked in but did not board the flight , at the very least it raises serious security concerns at KL airport !
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Warning: Prior reading to the following post, please note all accurate inforamtion relating to MH370 incident must refer to official statements from Governments & the Airline
According to Oriential Daily Hong Kong http://hk.on.cc/int/bkn/cnt/news/201...17011_001.html (If you cannot read Chinese, please use Google translate thank you) (The picture is included in the news report when you click on the link) there is a photo being circulated over the internet regards to the wrackage of the plane. This perhaps why ABC reported earlier. However please note from the photo itself it looks like the plane has winglets attached at the end of the "wing". We all know all B777s, including B777-8X and B777-9X do not have winglets so I highly doubt the accuracy of that post. |
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Thanks mate. That confirms my view that this is not accurate. I think we should notify the newspaper to deal with the photo. Clearly not cool for people to send these false stuff around.
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Lots and lots of speculation on what appears to be a horrific event. The release of information on damage that was repaired by Boeing to a wing tip I guess adds to the speculation.
The lack of debris, no claims by terrorist cells of destroying MH370, no mayday calls, no transmission of emergency beacons all adds to the mystery. Personally, structural failure or in-flight explosion are most likely but until investigators get to the FDR and CVR, we will never know. |
Where are the "pings" from the FDR, CVR and ELT…
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Wondering the very same thing, you think the ELT would have gone off.
You have to wonder.... has this a/c been hijacked and flown somewhere and is sitting on some dustry runway with a plane load of pax? I need to get the Jepps out and see where I could get with the fuel. |
another live news conference, authorities are saying there are reports a life raft has been spotted and there sending ships to the location now.
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Whilst what you say is 100% right, radar does of have limitations and of course you need to have radar in the right areas, the question was rather simple, as too my answer. So the simple answer to the question that was asked, is yes. |
Although I doubt it in this age of Radar Surveillance, etc, the thought of Hypoxia does come up - and there is maybe wreckage in the icy wastes of Siberia.
As I said, I doubt it. Whilst there might be some black holes in radar coverage around Indo-China, I cannot imagine any Aircraft entering Chinese Airspace, Transponder on or not, and not being detected. But if nothing is found in the Gulf of Thailand, they need to look farther afield - up to whatever distance the fuel on board would allow. |
Malaysian transport minister says Vietinam helicopters have been dispatched to a floating yellow object that is a possible life raft that matches the color of the one installed in the missing aircraft, came direct from him few moments ago.
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With respect, Ash - your answer was not accurate. If a transponder is switched off (or fails) then in 100% of cases the aircraft data label will definitely be lost on the controller's display. Modern ATC radar centres do not display primary paints on controller's displays, either because that data is not available, or to display it would clutter their displays (or both).
Sure, the world's military would maintain some level of primary-only radar coverage for identifying unidentified intruders, but that's not we're discussing here. The whole reason primary radar is all but redundant is that there are so many limitations with it, as I explained in my previous post. I thought my original answer was reasonably simple :) To make a blanket statement that the aircraft would still be showing on radar is generally incorrect in a modern civil ATC environment. That's why contact was lost in the first place :) Rescue services would have a more precise estimate of where the aircraft is, if your original statement were accurate. |
Tamara,
Do you have a a link to the source for this info? Its not appearing on any of the news websites. |
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http://m.heraldsun.com.au/news/malay...-1226849856500 http://mobile.news.com.au/ |
Turns out not to be a life raft
http://news.yahoo.com/vietnam-rescue...2--sector.html |
I'm confused. I use planefinder.net, it shows MAS370 disappearing over Malaysia, not the ocean, about 0103.
I don't know how to get flightaware to show historic data. |
German media just reports that the lab results of the examination of the oil that had been spotted in the area where the flight disappeared clearly show that the oil is not from the plane.
Source: Bild Zeitung, Germany (link not provided as the text is in German) Also one of the suspects that used a stolen passport has been identified but they won't tell of which nationality he is. They only said that he is neither Malaysian nor from the province of XinJiang, China. Source: http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Natio...rt-identified/ |
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