If you looked at my questions properly they are in no way similar. But secondly yes I'll wait till Qantas make another official announcement.

Ken, I would of thought that it would only be programming, like load and balance, V1,V2...

Based on that can a 788 sim be upgraded to a 789 by a software change ?

Yep, generally the same sims with just a few 'buttons' in the back to change the config from -8 to -9.

Ha! as if there's any doubt where they'll be based. Syd based, Mel for maint.

And the 787 sims are have just subtle differences, the -9 has more flap settings than -8 for instance.

Next Generation Fleet:
(http://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/med...s-ceo-address/)

There’s also a huge amount of preparation underway for the arrival of the Qantas 787 next year.

Our first aircraft is still about 15 months away, but I’m delighted to say that Dreamliner flights on our existing network will be on sale before Christmas.

And shortly after that, we’ll be announcing other international destinations that this state-of-the- art aircraft will fly to.

The Dreamliner doesn’t just extend our range – it also changes what’s possible for our customers.

The aircraft is full of inbuilt features to keep you comfortable on a long flight – like better air quality, less noise and more natural light.

We want to take this to the next level. And so we’re working with a range of specialists to create the best Dreamliner experience on the market – from a team of world-leading designers, including Marc Newson, to university sleep experts.

We’ll have a lot more to say between now and the first aircraft arriving – but customers should expect the best in class on every part of the Qantas Dreamliner.

Luxury suites in business class.

Economy seats with more room and better entertainment options.

And a revolutionary premium economy that is streets ahead of anything else out there.

Qantas first 787 details and estimated delivery date:

Line Number: 615
Variable Number: ZB269
Assembled: Everett
Delivery: 27th September 2017

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...19&output=html

ANA took delivery of it's 50th B787 on 18 August, 2016

QF still has to wait for nearly 13 mths

I believe BNE will do the maintenance .

Just seven frames before the first -10.

Hopefully still on topic, does anyone know if the paint scheme for the 789s has been finalised?

The big model given to Qantas by Boeing earlier this year had no flying kangaroo on the engine nacelles and no red 'winglets' painted on the wingtips (ala Virgin Atlantic's 789s).

In my humble opinion, with white wings, nacelles, and a mostly white fuselage, the 789s could arguably look a bit plain...

From QF source

Q

Seat width in economy to be 17.4 inches.

https://dreamliner.qantas.com/the-best-seat-in-the-sky

The second 787 is on the 787 production table

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...19&output=html

Line Number:641
Variable Number:ZB270
Serial Number:
Assembled:Everett
Delivery:1st December 2017

Looks like the rego's are yet to be confirmed unless anyone has some knowledge of this.

Im betting on MEL-DFW becoming a route

Where would QANTAS do have the maintenance centres based for the 787's?? Jetstar's maintenance facility at YMML?

I wouldn't be surprised if its Brisbane that gets it in terms of both line and heavy, the A330 facility is likely to get quieter over the next few years as the fleet reduces and after all it's the only facility they have left, I don't believe Jetstar have decided on who will be doing their heavy maintenance yet either, given the first heavy is due at 12 years they have a while to work it out.

How many 787s would it take to run a double daily Perth-London service?

The follow on part to this story is that QF are looking at cancelling the London A380 service from Melbourne, and originating the Perth-London B787 service in Melbourne - a bit like Air Canada's Toronto-Vancouver-Sydney service.

So potentially we can fly domestically on the B787 to Perth without going all the way to London.

Just heard on radio, it will be Syd, Perth, London.

Thought I saw somewhere that it would be Mel - Per - Lon ?

WHO said anything about a "DOUBLE DAILY" PER/LHR service????? It is 1 daily from what I read and if it started in PER it would need 2 X 789, but might be a bit tight. As it appears it might start in MEL, you would be looking at 3.

https://twitter.com/colinbarnett/sta...17473374363648

That means 14 direct services, 1 daily PER-LHR, 1 daily LHR-PER. It does not mean return double daily.

I was at the announcement yesterday and AJ was asked whether any existing flights to LHR would be cancelled and he said no they wouldn't. He also said that Qantas still owns 4slots at Heathrow and would like to be using all 4 in the not so distant future.

Oh I understand thanks

Passengers flying from Melbourne to Los Angeles will be the first to experience the Qantas 787-9 Dreamliner when the inaugural international service takes-off on 15 December next year*.
The Qantas Dreamliner will carry 236 passengers in a three-class configuration and complement the daily Airbus A380 service already flying from Melbourne to Los Angeles. Operating six times per week, the Dreamliner will replace the 747 service that currently operates on this route alongside the A380.
Qantas International CEO Gareth Evans said the arrival of the Dreamliner would be a step change for the airline and for customers, both in terms of operational efficiency and passenger comfort.
“The Dreamliner is a game-changing aircraft that opens up a new era for Qantas, and it’s been designed with passenger comfort in mind,” said Mr Evans.
“The aircraft itself offers passengers larger windows, a smoother ride and better air quality to reduce jetlag.
“In Economy there’s more room and plenty of storage. In Business, our suites will offer a fully flat bed and direct aisle access. We’ll be unveiling our Premium Economy in the first quarter of next year and it will set new standards for the industry.”
Mr Evans made the announcement while visiting the Boeing Aerostructures Australia facility at Port Melbourne with Victorian Tourism Minister John Eren. The factory manufactures parts of the 787 wing, which are then shipped to the United States for the aircraft assembly.
“We’ll be working with Visit Victoria on joint marketing campaigns to highlight what Victoria and the Qantas Dreamliner have to offer,” said Mr Evans.
Today’s announcement follows Qantas confirming it will fly non-stop from Perth to London from March 2018. Travellers on the East Coast are expected to also use the service, cutting up to an hour off their total travel time.
QANTAS Press Release


The 787-9 Melbourne-Los Angeles service will operate six days a week. This takes the total number of Qantas services on the route from nine to 13 return flights per week and will give customers the convenience of a morning or afternoon departure from Melbourne on most days. As it replaces a larger, 364-seat 747 that operates twice a week, the net capacity increase is approximately 1,400 seats in total.
Fares will be on sale from Christmas Day 2016.

http://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/med...amliner-route/

So is it thourght that Qantas will have 4 B787-9s by the start of the Perth-London flights?

Qantas will have 3 787-9s delivered by the end of 2017.

3rd 787
Line Number: 655
Variable Number: ZB271
Assembled: Everett
Delivery:31st December 2017

The first 787 has had its delivery date pushed back a little over two weeks to the 12th October.

Does anyone know if the rego's been allocated yet for the 787-9s?

The inaugural December 15 B787 QF95/96 MEL-LAX flights is on sale.

The QF95 747 Monday service ends on the 23rd January and 19th July for the Wednesday service.

The 4th B787-9 is scheduled to be delivered on the 22nd of February 2018.

4:
Line Number:669
Serial Number:
Variable Number:ZB272
Assembled:Everett
Delivery:22nd February 2018

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...19&output=html

Forgive me if this has already been posted... I couldn't see it, though.

QF 789 seat map is now up on their website: http://www.qantas.com/infodetail/fly...2J28PY166Y.pdf

Does look to be a little tight for galley space at doors L4/R4, but wondering if there is some additional galley cart storage nestled in near the crew rest (see the stairs near the L4/R4 galley area) with a lift to the actual galley?

Also looks like proportionally a lot of seats for J and W (3 in total) compared to Y (4 in total).

I'm looking more from the passenger perspective - is that really 3 toilets (maybe 4) for W and Y for flights up to 18 hours? Unless W can also access the J toilets?

Since the 4th 787 is arriving late February 2018 so they can implement the Perth-London service and Qantas plans to retire the 2 oldest 747s by mid 2018 they either must be doing some quite extensive network changes with the 747 routes before the 5th arrives in FY19 or 1 or 2 787s might be delivered earlier than expected in the 4th quarter of FY18 rather than in FY19.

QANTAS has revealed that the 787-9 registrations will be in the VH-ZN* block with the first aircraft VH-ZNA.

Source: The QANTAS Source

Would have liked Qantas to have kept an old rego block, such as VH-OG* (767's) or VH-TJ* (734s).

Thanks James

Looks like VH-ZNA will be serial 39038

The fourth a/c VH-ZND looks like line no 669 ZB272