Qantas A380 Fuel Fungus?
Channel Ten New last night in Adelaide ran a story about Qantas grounding all their A380's due to fuel fungus giving faulty fuel readings.
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Hahah! Typical media!
Its just 1 A380 stuck in LHR. |
Thats explains why at the QF Jet base I saw 2 x 380's at the Jetbase last night 1 in the hanger and one in the open.
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Also explains why yesterdays QF93 MEL-LAX that was scheduled as an A380, was operated by 744 VH-OEF and went via SYD as QF11 was cancelled
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One of the A380s is currently on its way back from LHR operating QF10 which is due into MEL this evening. (Delayed)
A second A380 will operate the scheduled QF31 Dep from SYD-LHR this afternoon. And the 3rd A380 is due back in service tomorrow. |
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...380-fleet.html
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Interesting. Its a Microbiological contamination of the fuel. You shock treat the fuel tanks to try and get rid of the organism that lives in the water.
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I remember when this was an issue for Ansett-ANA and its Electras.
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It's an ongoing problem for pretty much all kerosene-fueled aeroplanes.
There's a fungus that grows in the boundary between the fuel and any water in the tanks. On smaller aeroplanes you can use stuff called Prist to help kill it, but it's really nasty stuff. I suspect that for at least the last decade or so, the fuel companies have been adding something to they fuel to help inhibit the growth of the fungus as I haven't seen Prist used for quite a long time. I personally refused to go near Prist as it's so dangerous to humans. |
It is a problem for all aircraft.As stated you place a powder in the fuel tanks this should then treat the problem.It was first noticed on the DC9 Aircraft wheich had to have it removed.The BAE146 were scrapped because some of them were so bad.
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Bill,
I reguarly used to add prist to the fuel when I was flying the PC-12 full time. Not so much these days as the fuel truck in my location automatically add's it and we don't put it in the B200 (except when refuelling from a tanker with it already in it). However every time you added the stuff, it was gloves on without fail (large chemical gloves), and while holding the can, make sure the thing was facing AWAY from you, in case the hose thing came off the can outlet. Quite glad I don't have to deal with the stuff much these days. Mick |
Seems like a pretty basic issue to affect the worlds most advanced airliner. Especially seeing most of you comment the fuel companies add solutions to the fuel to avoid the issue.
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Is this issue related to the problems Singapore Airlines had last year with fuel pumps?
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And the 3rd A380 is due back in service tomorrow brad, we(operating crew) have been told that one of the 380 suppose to go back into service tomorrow has been delayed and our LAX pattern cancelled. |
it's fine by me seeing as I did the airside tarmac tour today! plenty of A380's to geek around
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Looks like OQA is on its way back from LHR, OQB and OQC have been off the ACARS airwaves for a few days.
ACARS mode: 1 Aircraft reg: VH-OQA [Airbus A380] Message label: ** Block id: @ Msg no: 894e Flight id: QF0010 [LHR-SIN-MEL] [Qantas] Message content:- SBS-1 Callsign: QFA10 ----------------------------------------------------------[ 03/03/2009 01:14 ]- ACARS mode: 1 Aircraft reg: VH-OQB [ ] Message label: ** Block id: @ Msg no: 16e3 Flight id: QF0032 [LHR-SIN-SYD] [Qantas] Message content:- SBS-1 Callsign: QFA32 ----------------------------------------------------------[ 28/02/2009 13:04 ]- ACARS mode: 2 Aircraft reg: VH-OQC [ ] Message label: HF Block id: 0 Msg no: 0000 Flight id: QFA032 [LHR-SIN] [Qantas] Message content:- QFA32 ,.NO-REG,7C4922,144236,N48159E035231; ----------------------------------------------------------[ 25/02/2009 15:42 ]- |
Hi All,
Did I read this correctly - QF10 (delayed arrival was due at 0630 this morning 3/3) is being ops by A380 OQA?? If so, there has been another twist with this aircraft. I posted this on jetspotter.com: Quote:
Thank you Stuart |
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Hi All,
Thanks for the info. I was actually watching it arrive in the all the Darkness and Rain, to which I only saw the landing lights and a white body. When will the A380 arrive into Melb then? Tomorrow morning on QF10? Stuart |
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Probably not pax cargo, but rather commercial freight that's along for the ride (read "revenue").
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Sorry I didn't mean pax cargo, I was talking about the freight, but what types of hazardous freight are they allowed to carry in bulk? I thought all hazardous/flammable freight had to go by sea?
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Todays QF93 is being operated by VH-OQB.
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God I hate those Mist approaches, all foggy and stuff.
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Boom tish! :D (and at ferst I thort you hadn't used the speeling chooker)
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David.M. |
Does the board have a spelling checker???
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Me, but I don't have enough free time.
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I only found out that the board had a "search" function during this last spotting weekend! :D
sorry Amsy... couldn't resist David.M. |
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Correct, should have mentioned that, every two years www.dgsafety.com is our freind:( |
So on any given flight pax could be sitting above tonnes of highly flammable or radioactive material without knowing about it?
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Well, you're already surrounded by tonnes of highly flammable (and toxic) stuff anyway. It's called fuel!
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The difference being the pilot can dump fuel before making an emergency landing, they can't eject freight.
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Yes true not all of it.
But say for instance the Turkish airlines crash in Amsterdam, could have been worse if the plane was full of flammable goods. The fuel may not have ignited but the freight may have. |
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NickN,
If you've been on many aircraft, then you've been on top of "Dangerous Goods" by definition many times. We carry all sorts of stuff... but it is all packed and labelled according to very strict criteria, and all airline staff that are involved in operations are trained in Dangerous Goods management. These are always goods that when packed correctly in proper quantities pose no risk to aviation, so you don't have anything to worry too much about. :D Yes, we do sometimes carry radioactive materials, but they are small quantities, and are packed so they don't leak. If they were in a crash, sure, they might radiate a little, but not at levels that are dangerous for short term exposure. They are small amounts. There is more likely to be a crash of the truck carrying the goods from the aircraft to final destination than of the aircraft itself. |
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