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MarkR 1st August 2020 07:22 AM

CX storing at ASP?
 
B-HNE is currently heading for ASP as CX3491. 12 in total will be stored there with the first arriving a couple of days ago, A333 B-HLV https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/cx3491

matthew dobson 1st August 2020 03:29 PM

If true, I was wondering why this wasn't an option for some/more Qantas planes

Kent Broadhead 2nd August 2020 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matthew dobson (Post 110300)
If true, I was wondering why this wasn't an option for some/more Qantas planes

I'd expect due to QF having access to many other ports around Australia, whereas CX has limited other options, and the local ones are in a humid environment.

QF had alreayd planned 744 retirement, so accelarating it solved that problem. Not really clear on why the US for the A380 fleet - maybe they booked spots early, or had easier access to ongoing support?

MarkR 2nd August 2020 11:53 AM

I believe QF prefer the US as it’s slightly better climate wise and they have a nearby tech crew that can do storage rather than outsource it. I also suspect it’s better for aircraft that are not expected to resume with the fleet as it’s closer to the buyer market. NZ hasn’t yet sent their 777s to ASP, and today’s movement was a CX 777 so space is filling up.

Dave Dale 2nd August 2020 11:56 AM

It'd be interesting to know how many will never leave Alice Springs. Some of those 777's of Singapore Airlines and Cathay Pacific are getting on in their years.

MarkR 2nd August 2020 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Dale (Post 110307)
It'd be interesting to know how many will never leave Alice Springs. Some of those 777's of Singapore Airlines and Cathay Pacific are getting on in their years.

Your not wrong, B-HNE was the first prototype of the 777-300!

Michael Mak 2nd August 2020 01:42 PM

I've read that the climate condition at VCV is better for long term storage (multiple years) and ASP is better for short/medium term storage (months rather than years). QF also has access to LAX-based engineers which is about 90 minutes drive away.

Brenden S 2nd August 2020 07:28 PM

ASP have recently opened up more parking to deal with the rush. They are expecting to have over 100 aircraft by years end.

MarkR 3rd August 2020 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brenden S (Post 110310)
ASP have recently opened up more parking to deal with the rush. They are expecting to have over 100 aircraft by years end.

By October according to the latest update, with a little help from the NT govt!

Quote:

There are 44 aircraft currently in storage at the Alice Springs airport facility, with another 30 expected to land by the end of August.

Before the pandemic, APAS stored up to 18 aircraft at a time.

Yesterday, the NT Government announced it would invest a further $3.5 million in the storage facility, which Mr Vincent said would allow the company to store 100 aircraft by October.

This money is on top of a $1 million infrastructure grant the Territory Government provided to APAS earlier this year to help it expand.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-...demic/12510356

Aaron M 6th August 2020 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Mak (Post 110309)
I've read that the climate condition at VCV is better for long term storage (multiple years) and ASP is better for short/medium term storage (months rather than years). QF also has access to LAX-based engineers which is about 90 minutes drive away.

Does anyone know, are these Qantas engineers?
If yes why couldn't they have been relocated to ASP, seems silly to have them in LAX still?

MarkR 6th August 2020 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aaron M (Post 110330)
Does anyone know, are these Qantas engineers?
If yes why couldn't they have been relocated to ASP, seems silly to have them in LAX still?

They are Qantas staffers, likely to be US citizens, and as posted before Mojave is better for longer term storage for Qantas environmentally wise. QF did use ASP for short term storage for the 767 exit.

Michael Mak 7th August 2020 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aaron M (Post 110330)
Does anyone know, are these Qantas engineers?
If yes why couldn't they have been relocated to ASP, seems silly to have them in LAX still?

They are Qantas LAX-based engineers.

https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/me...cility-at-lax/


https://thepointsguy.com/news/lax-qa...s-a380-hangar/

MarkR 15th August 2020 09:04 AM

NZ have sent their 777s to the states and not Alice, some left this week.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ZKOKP

MarkR 17th September 2020 05:38 AM

CX have 60 spots booked at ASP and have used 27, B-HNQ is heading there are it’s visit to Sydney today.

Michael Mak 18th September 2020 01:48 PM

B-HNU arrived at ASP today as CX3490 from MEL. It did CX135 HKG-MEL earlier.

Stefan Perkas 21st September 2020 08:27 AM

B-HNV and B-HNW on their way to Alice Springs now from Sydney and Melbourne respectively.

Also, 3 HK Express A321's are en-route to ASP via DRW today.

Kent Broadhead 28th September 2020 12:52 PM

B-KQK (SYD-ASP) and B-KPD (MEL-ASP) arrived today.

MarkR 30th September 2020 04:07 PM

I wonder which park has more occupants, the car park or the plane park https://twitter.com/PegsontheLine/st...382528/photo/1

Adrian B 30th September 2020 11:06 PM

Imagine the conversation when SQ want that farthest A380 out first...

You *&%$ what??

Steve S... 2 1st October 2020 04:28 PM

There is currently a Myanmar 737-800 XY-ALC just SE of Broome, heading in the direction of Alice Springs presumably for storage at ASP!?

It wears an interesting livery.

Steve S... 2 1st October 2020 04:57 PM

It's heading to Sydney for some reason.

Sean L 1st October 2020 05:46 PM

XY-ALC is a repatriation flight.

MarkR 1st October 2020 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve S... 2 (Post 110576)
There is currently a Myanmar 737-800 XY-ALC just SE of Broome, heading in the direction of Alice Springs presumably for storage at ASP!?

It wears an interesting livery.

No, inbound to yssy

Sean L 1st October 2020 07:34 PM

Departs 9AM on Saturday

MarkR 8th October 2020 11:04 AM

APAS has capacity for 110 now and looking at expanding to 160-200, in the meantime the aircraft at Well amp are stored on their behalf.

Kent Broadhead 14th October 2020 07:41 AM

B-KQI has just departed SYD-ASP. Looks like they're putting some younguns (7 years) there as well as the oldies.

Kent Broadhead 20th October 2020 07:33 AM

B-KPW on its way to ASP this morning. 9yo.

Anyone know how many are there now?

Kent Broadhead 20th October 2020 07:36 AM

B-KPW on its way to ASP this morning. 9yo.

B-KPL and B-KPQ arrived yesterday. I flew HKG-BOS on KPL back in December last year

HNX, KPM and KPR have also arrived in the last week.

Anyone know how many are there now?

Adrian B 20th October 2020 07:37 AM

Updated ASP photos in this article by News.com.au - Incredible images of plane ‘graveyard’ near Alice Springs

Kurt A 20th October 2020 04:31 PM

Here are the rest of the photos - Seth Jaworski.

https://sjap.smugmug.com/View-from-above/Alice-Springs/

MarkR 20th October 2020 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kent Broadhead (Post 110701)

Anyone know how many are there now?

I counted 114

Kent Broadhead 22nd October 2020 07:18 AM

Cheers Mark

And thanks to Seth too for his pics. I had a great trip in Dec-Jan, and for the birds I few on to be parked up like that, well....

B-KPZ arrived yesterday.

Kent Broadhead 23rd October 2020 10:47 AM

FR24 seems to have been having some issues. B-KQL only arrived today.

Kent Broadhead 26th October 2020 10:32 AM

And now B-KPV today. B-LAF (A333) arrived over the weekend.

MarkR 27th October 2020 09:42 AM

B-kpn is currently inbound to ASP ex SYD as CX3492

Kent Broadhead 28th October 2020 07:21 AM

B-KQM also arrived on Monday, via MEL.

Robert.M 28th October 2020 07:46 AM

B77W B-KPE just departed Sydney for Alice Springs as CX3492

Kent Broadhead 31st October 2020 11:27 AM

B-KQN arrived yesterday, and B-KPS today. All 777 unless noted

Kent Broadhead 2nd November 2020 12:06 PM

I will try to pul together a single list, but B-KQS (777) and B-LAJ (A333) arrived today.

Kent Broadhead 3rd November 2020 07:29 AM

Here's my list as it currently stands. I think it's got all the 777 (22 today), but A333 is incomplete:

B-HNE
B-HNQ
B-HNV
B-HNW
B-HNX
B-KPD
B-KPE
B-KPL
B-KPM
B-KPN
B-KPQ
B-KPR
B-KPS
B-KPV
B-KPW
B-KPZ
B-KQI
B-KQK
B-KQL
B-KQM
B-KQN
B-KQS

A333
B-HLV
B-LAF
B-LAJ


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