VB/PB livery rebranding starts. - Page 18

Alex Lui · #**171** 23rd February 2011, 09:53 AM

I like the new uniforms. Look very nice and yes, reminds me of the good ol' days of travel. The Business class cabin is (I am pretty sure) just Emirates Business class just re upholstered. Still, it will give Qantas's Domesitc Business product a run for their money (hence Qantas deploying the 744 to compete I reckon).

Any news on the new economy product or will that remain the same? It said in the report that new products were going around...

Any news on the new livery and logo as yet?

Alex.

Oliver Gigacz · #**172** 23rd February 2011, 09:57 AM

Glad to see they ordered the ATR 500s and 600s.

Rob R · #**173** 23rd February 2011, 10:26 AM

Roll out of new domestic cabin with business class prior to 31 DEC 2011, however product unveiling prior to 30 June 2011.

New name prior to 30 June 2011.

Regading the uniform, male flight crew have the option have getting company issued airport friendly R.M. Williams boots, which most have taken

Will H · #**174** 23rd February 2011, 10:34 AM

More pics here from this morning's event and I'll try to add more later: http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/wi...w-uniform.html

Gareth U · #**175** 23rd February 2011, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Lui

The Business class cabin is (I am pretty sure) just Emirates Business class just re upholstered.

Yes. That is the newly-refurbished J product on Emirates' A332 and A343 fleet. The seat model is the same as Qantas' old Dreamtime seat. It is 2-3-2. Around 4-5 years ago Emirates increased the pitch from 42" to 60". This product is still very competitive against Qantas' domestic config (even the domestic 2-2-2 on EBM-N) as the pitch and seat features are much better than Qantas' domestic products.

Will Qantas have the advantage as they will soon have 'no middle seat (again)'? Or is Virgin planning 2-2-2 as well? The images provided show only the outboard seats - it seems they are 'hiding' something.

BradR · #**176** 23rd February 2011, 12:29 PM

Gareth, I don't believe QF have ever had a Dreamtime seat on its A330s. It has only had the Millenium domestic J class seats and the sleepers.

DJ's challenge is to be able to pitch its product so it attracts corporates across the plane. VX has done this with a great product throughout the cabin and I'm sure Borghetti is modelling the new DJ very much on VX though I'm sure it is easier to fit J class seats in an A320's width compared to a 737.

It seems that the new product will be 3 class (a-la-VX). The mid product (Y+) is available in exit rows and the first row of Y. It has extra room and free IFE (I think??).

It is interesting the VA is getting product enhancements in 2012. VA is a great product so it will be interesting to see what the enhancements will be.

Gareth U · #**177** 23rd February 2011, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BradR

Gareth, I don't believe QF have ever had a Dreamtime seat on its A330s. It has only had the Millenium domestic J class seats and the sleepers.

Firstly, Qantas also had two other seat types in J on the A330-200s in addition to the Skybed and Millennium (all gone to Jetstar now).

Secondly, I was referring to the international-configured 763s, which have the Dreamtime seat. This is the same seat model as Emirates' J seats on their 332 and 343s, which are (apparently) being used initially by Emirates.

D Chan · #**178** 23rd February 2011, 07:16 PM

was expecting a little bit more with both the new uniforms and seats... the uniform is ok but I like their old one more,
cant wait to see the new livery / rebrand

Robert S · #**179** 23rd February 2011, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BradR

It is interesting the VA is getting product enhancements in 2012. VA is a great product so it will be interesting to see what the enhancements will be.

This was my reaction also... it's already pretty awesome.

Bob C · #**180** 23rd February 2011, 10:31 PM

A bit of an anti climax but at least the ATRs have been confirmed.

I didn't mind the old flight and cabin crew uniforms as they had a fresh and "cool" look about them. But I guess they had to go as VB is moving away from being a LCC to more of a full service carrier so the new uniforms have to reflect that change and show more of a corporate image to the great and the good who will be using Business Class.

And I can't help thinking that there is a distinct Virgin Atlantic look about them.

Roll on the next few months when all will be revealed.