2nd Full Service InterCity Carrier in Australia?

[Rhys Xanthis]

They provide everyone blankets and pillows on the overnight Perth-East Coast legs.

[Gareth U]

Originally Posted by Michael Mak

QF international indeed offers pillow and blanket but they don't that for domestic flights unless upon request.

How can one justify the cost of installing StarClass on the A320 at the expanse of other Y class seat? How many JQ customers would fly on StarClass when they fly SYD-AVV, SYD-OOL-, BNE-ROK, MEL-HBA?

To add to Ryan's post yes, pillows and blankets are preset at 100% in Y/C on the first and last flight of the day from MEL and SYD to PER (and CBR-PER) and all night flights PER-MEL/SYD/BNE. J/C should have them loaded at 100% but on day sectors the blankets are stowed above, rather than preset on seats.

SYD-DRW-SYD and CNS-PER-CNS on the night flights pillows and blankets are also loaded at 100% in both cabins.

On Tasman / Noumea flights pillows and blankets are loaded at 100% in J/C and about 50% in Y/C.

Apologies for the thread drift!

Regarding StarClass on domestic, I think it it could work by removing 1 row of seats and increasing the legroom to 34" for the first six or so rows. StarClass could also offer the centre seat free with movable armrests. The manufacturer of JQ's current seat, Brice, also makes convertible seats. When not being used for StarClass (and I agree it would not suit all flights/routes), Jetstar could sell the seats as extra legroom seats. I think it could work - and Jetstar, I believe, have proven to be quite adaptive when it comes to maximising revenue and custom.

[Gareth U]

Originally Posted by Philip Argy

I tried DJ's "Premium Economy"...there was not so much as a free cup of tea or a cup of water.

And the 7kg carry-on limit is ridiculous, especially when most crew take offence when I point out that my laptop is permitted in addition to the 7kg (at least as I read DJ's rules).

I was amazed when DJ announced this product that it did not include some sort of complimentary food and drink. Both Air Canada and flybe - British European give high Y-fare customers a voucher for food and drink on check-in on flights where food is sold. That includes the QuickCheck and WebCheck-in check-in processes, where the voucher is printed - looks similar to a boarding pass.

On BMI top tier Frequent Flyers receive free catering on presentation of their membership cards.

So the technology or processes are there, which is why I am still surprised DJ hasn't offered something similar.

[Arthur T]

Originally Posted by Gareth U

Regarding StarClass on domestic, I think it it could work by removing 1 row of seats and increasing the legroom to 34" for the first six or so rows. StarClass could also offer the centre seat free with movable armrests. The manufacturer of JQ's current seat, Brice, also makes convertible seats. When not being used for StarClass (and I agree it would not suit all flights/routes), Jetstar could sell the seats as extra legroom seats. I think it could work - and Jetstar, I believe, have proven to be quite adaptive when it comes to maximising revenue and custom.

Oops! Think that's the difference bewteen CityFlyer right?
I just feel surprised there is no pillow/blanket on all DRW and CNS flights, as sectors like MEL - CNS or MEL - DRW etc is not short though.
Another wonder is why Hobart and Darwin is not part of QF's CityFlyer destinations?

About StarClass, I agree some routes such as Prosperine or Hamilton Island does not require any StarClass or even 1 or 2 StarClass seat, in the case JetStar can even raise their JetFlex fare for those extra legroom convertables.
However 6 rows seems too much, 2 rows is enough (Rows 1 & 2)

Regarding DJ's Premium Economy, think Australia cannot afford a full Business Class flights bewteen cities, but sounds there is a lot of room for Virgin Blue to enhance their service, make it a bit more luxary or reasonable to compete with QANTAS's business class. But I recoknd at some point QF's business class might be hurt by DJ for some extent.

If NZ's FF system can capable into *A, is there possibity for Velocity to join *A in the future?

[Michael Morrison]

Originally Posted by Arthur T

If NZ's FF system can capable into *A, is there possibity for Velocity to join *A in the future?

Of course there is - one small problem - Air NZ blocking them!

[Justin L]

Originally Posted by Michael Morrison

Of course there is - one small problem - Air NZ blocking them!

Why is Air NZ blocking DJ's entry into Star Alliance? Is it due to domestic competition within NZ?

[Bruce Bramwell]

Originally Posted by Justin L.

Why is Air NZ blocking DJ's entry into Star Alliance? Is it due to domestic competition within NZ?

Classic case of I am bigger than you, I tell you what I can and can't do?

[Arthur T]

Originally Posted by Bruce Bramwell

Classic case of I am bigger than you, I tell you what I can and can't do?

But aren't Star Alliance long for their *A airline in OZ again after Ansett's failure?

Then DJ can consider SkyTeam then

Anyway, if NZ thinks they are bigger than DJ, then why not NZ buy DJ straight away?

QF has their service in NZ so I don't think that is a problem actually.

[Rhys Xanthis]

DJ is very profitable in NZ at the moment from what i hear - they are undercutting ANZ by a fair amount last i heard.

If they were to come into the Star Alliance Allicance i'm sure it would come with an agreement about the termination of some DJ services to/from/within NZ, something i don't think DJ would be too fond of doing.

[Justin L]

Originally Posted by Rhys Xanthis

If they were to come into the Star Alliance Allicance i'm sure it would come with an agreement about the termination of some DJ services to/from/within NZ, something i don't think DJ would be too fond of doing.

But if DJ were to join, couldn't Virgin Blue only join, with Pacific Blue and Polynesian Blue not be a part of it? The same way LAN Ecuador and LAN Argentina were not originally part of oneworld (only the then LAN Chile, now LAN)?