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Agreed Greg, but why when the airlines were forced to change the way they advertised airfares, to one single all inclusive fare, are they managing to get around it now with all these 'extras'?
It's rubbish if you ask me. I've always been happy to travel Virgin, but now with this extra charge for taking a bag (sorry if I wanted a few changes of clothes), I think I'll be making the majority of my bookings with Qantas. No extra charges for taking a bag, I get a meal, and a wider network. Just my personal opinion. Mick 
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17th August 2008, 09:53 PM
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17th August 2008, 09:56 PM
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Slightly off topic but Virgin - Low Cost airline of the year (Australia/Pacific)
How the heck is DJ a 'true' LCC? Premium Economy Live SAT tv The Lounge Connecting Baggage the list can go on...... what Virgin Blue are today is Qantas.... without the 'included' meal Just my thoughts.......
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17th August 2008, 10:12 PM
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I dont think people fully understand what Virgin Blue has been forced to become. When Virgin Blue started out it was purely a LCC point to point airline and was never intended to be anything more than that. AN and QF are the major players in the market at the time. AN collapases and suddenely VB is the second largest carrier in Australia, Virgin Blue had to quickly evolve as QF was in a position to gobble up the whole marketshare, they have had to match QF product wise whilst trying to also maintain being a LCC, hence why the term 'New World Carrier' is now used rather than a LCC.
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17th August 2008, 11:20 PM
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Tiger has been doing this for ages, since May iirc too...
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18th August 2008, 12:12 AM
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VB, under their own admission are not a true LCC, instead they are a value based airline, or the term they prefer, "new world carrier". Essentially it's somewhere between low cost and full service. It's been a gamble, one which cannot really be judged for a few years yet. It's also a style that is constantly evolving. These baggage charges are a prime example of that. Still I'm sure, it's quite widely admitted internally, that the product as a whole needs a more refined direction. Again this will happen with the evolution of the company. I think that's why VB are struggling to find an owner. Nevertheless, the airline is embarking on a major expansion plan with new destinations being added both domestically and overseas. V Australia is also pressing forward full steam ahead. Investor confidence is up on this advancement and this can be seen by the rise of the share price in recent weeks. As far as the award. Well there is no 'new world carrier' category but VB would certainly be more LCC than full service to the regular punter. As a test, ask any of your non aviation friends if Virgin serve food onboard for free? Compared to any of the service additions you mentioned above and I'm sure you will find hardly any know of the PE, Con Bags, LiveTV, Lounge etc. Marty, Virgin Blue was never 'forced' to become anything. It's a business at the end of the day. They take carefully selected risks to grow their business. One of those was the expansion you describe.
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smelly pax!
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