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Old 20th October 2019, 04:19 PM
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The A350 is going to win the Sunrise challenge. Boeing is dead in the water.
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Old 20th October 2019, 11:02 PM
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Wanna bet mate? Care to elaborate on "dead in the water"?
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Old 21st October 2019, 07:14 AM
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ZNJ has made an appearance at PAE now that ZNI has had its time in the spotlight.

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Old 21st October 2019, 12:43 PM
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Wanna bet mate? Care to elaborate on "dead in the water"?
The Boeing 777-8 development has been put on hold.
The Airbus 350-1000 already has nine weight variants with different MTOW.
The A350-1000 put forward by Airbus has a 8,700nm range with a typical 375-passenger load.

The A350 has huge runs on the board with ULR variants already in service. Beyond Singapore, Qatar and other airlines are also already in talks with Airbus about new ULR models.

It is also is over 10% cheaper (list price).

I'd love to be wrong.
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Old 21st October 2019, 01:38 PM
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I agree that Airbus is the leader based on Boeing's current woes and its ability to have a aircraft ready and flying to meet QF delivery time frames.

Also to the above Boeing has:

- B737 MAX aircraft that are estimated to be grounded until 2020,
- B777-8 had a cargo door blowout during recent ground testing
- B777-8 has yet to fly
- B777-8 will have MORE THAN RIGOROUS/STRENUOUS certification process after the MAX debacle
- USAF are predicting that the KC-46A (B767 Tanker) will not be operational for at least four years due to at least 4 X CAT1 deficiencies. (A CAT1 deficiency is defined as affecting the aircraft and classified as an identified risk that jeopardises lives or
critical assets)

The A350 is flying and operational.
QF has some bargaining power based on the A321LR orders.
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Old 21st October 2019, 03:01 PM
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Also problems with the B777-8 engines.
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Old 21st October 2019, 05:30 PM
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And the A350 is a super plane in which to fly. I have done London-Taipei-Sydney-Taipei-London in an A350, and really enjoyed all 4 sectors. Given a choice of airlines, I would go for the one using A350 rather than B787, and yes I have flown in both types.
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Old 22nd October 2019, 06:50 AM
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Phil - not meaning to go OT, but what did you see as the major differences? I've done multiple 787 sectors and find it quieter and smoother than the 777, but don't have my first A350 sector until Dec.

It is very difficult to see how Boeing can compete on Sunrise with the 777 variants given all the current issues.
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Old 22nd October 2019, 08:02 PM
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I have done a number of A350 trips in the various cabins of CX, MH and SQ over the past 18 months, in the case of SQ I actually found the 787 experience from the same airline much better. Some of the early delivery A350s are looking really ratty interior wise, of course some of that may well be airline dependant re cabin fitout, but toilets seem to be an issue with a number of A350 flights having U/S loos I have travelled on.
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Old 23rd October 2019, 11:33 AM
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I have done 3 flights on the B787 and 1 on the A350. To be honest I felt that the A350 had more space in the cabin than the 787's did.
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