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Greg Hyde 24th August 2023 03:54 PM

From the February announcement:

+Five mid-life Airbus A319/320 aircraft to be sourced for Network Aviation to meet continued demand growth from resources clients in Western Australia.

+Options for up to 12 additional E190s to be wet leased to QantasLink from Alliance Airlines.

+Nine purchase right options for A220-300 aircraft for the domestic fleet to be exercised, taking the total number of A220s on firm order to 29. These additional aircraft will arrive during FY26 and FY27.

+Two mid-life A320s for Jetstar Asia, to be based in Singapore, following the downsizing of its fleet during COVID to seven aircraft.

+Three additional Airbus A321P2F freighters to help Qantas Freight meet demand with more efficient aircraft.

https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/me...f-year-result/

It looks to me that the only thing started/delivered is the additional QQ E190s

MarkR 24th August 2023 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Hyde (Post 117309)
From the February announcement:

+Five mid-life Airbus A319/320 aircraft to be sourced for Network Aviation to meet continued demand growth from resources clients in Western Australia.

+Options for up to 12 additional E190s to be wet leased to QantasLink from Alliance Airlines.

+Nine purchase right options for A220-300 aircraft for the domestic fleet to be exercised, taking the total number of A220s on firm order to 29. These additional aircraft will arrive during FY26 and FY27.

+Two mid-life A320s for Jetstar Asia, to be based in Singapore, following the downsizing of its fleet during COVID to seven aircraft.

+Three additional Airbus A321P2F freighters to help Qantas Freight meet demand with more efficient aircraft.

https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/me...f-year-result/

It looks to me that the only thing started/delivered is the additional QQ E190s

You need to look at the footnotes in the investor section re these being from outside the group and as previously mentioned the A319s have started to arrive while the announcement today stated December is the expected first delivery for todays announcement.

Greg Hyde 24th August 2023 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkR (Post 117310)
You need to look at the footnotes in the investor section re these being from outside the group and as previously mentioned the A319s have started to arrive while the announcement today stated December is the expected first delivery for todays announcement.

Funny you didn't mention that previously.

To reiterate from the February announcement (which you commenting on), at this time only the additional QQ E190s have been delivered which goes against your previous statement

"What was announced in Feb has already started to be delivered, and as I noted in the Jetstar thread, these are not internal transfers, this is also mentioned in the feb announcement, they are new to the QF group."

Greg Hyde 24th August 2023 04:35 PM

https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/me...ational-fleet/

from the above

ABOUT THE AIRCRAFT

Boeing 787-9 and 787-10

Qantas’ 787-9 at 62.8 metres is around the same length as the A330s they will replace, while the 787-10 at 68.3 metres is around five metres longer. Both 787 models will be powered by General Electric GEnx engines. The noise footprint of the 787 is 60 per cent smaller than those of previous generation aircraft[2]. The 787-9 delivers a 20 per cent improvement in fuel use, and around 25 percent for the 787-10, as compared to previous generation aircraft[3]. Airbus A350-1000

Qantas’ A350-1000 at 72.25 metres is 8.5 metres longer than the A330s they will replace and the same length as the A380.
The aircraft will be powered by Rolls Royce Trent XWB-97 engines.
The A350 provides a 50 per cent noise footprint reduction from previous generation aircraft[4].
The A350 enables a 25 per cent advantage in fuel burn and CO2 emissions compared to previous generation aircraft[5].

QANTAS GROUP FLEET RENEWAL OVERVIEW
The Qantas Group is on track to receive the first two QantasLink A220 aircraft by the end of this calendar year; subsequent deliveries are expected to be delayed by up to four months as a result of supply chain disruption.

The first of seven mid-life A320 family aircraft to meet growing resources flying and Jetstar Asia recovery are expected to arrive before the end of December 2023.

Twenty-two of the previously announced E190s wet-leased from Alliance Airlines are scheduled to have joined the Qantas fleet by the end of December 2023.

Two more A321 converted freighters are expected to arrive by the end of December 2023.

Jetstar’s 18 Airbus A321LRs are on track to enter the fleet by the end of calendar year 2024, with a further 20 A321LRs and A321XLRs set to be delivered by calendar year 2029.

The first of 12 Airbus A350-1000 ULRs for Project Sunrise are due to arrive in FY26.

MarkR 24th August 2023 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Hyde (Post 117311)
Funny you didn't mention that previously.

To reiterate from the February announcement (which you commenting on), at this time only the additional QQ E190s have been delivered which goes against your previous statement

"What was announced in Feb has already started to be delivered, and as I noted in the Jetstar thread, these are not internal transfers, this is also mentioned in the feb announcement, they are new to the QF group."

Greg, I didn’t mention the recent A319 delivery noted by Kent, only noted it wasn’t part of those announced in todays release and assumed it’s the Feb announcement. My point referencing the Feb announcement is that these are new to the Qantas group, not movements between subsidiaries or partly owned subsidiary’s in the case of 3K

Greg Hyde 24th August 2023 05:00 PM

Mark, You still haven't answered my question regarding your statement ""What was announced in Feb has already started to be delivered, and as I noted in the Jetstar thread, these are not internal transfers, this is also mentioned in the feb announcement, they are new to the QF group."

Also I've been through the "Qantas Group FY23 Investor Presentations"

https://investor.qantas.com/investor...-announcements

and only found two references to the A319

p16

Continued strength of WA resources market resulting in commitment to5 x A319 aircraft to Network Aviation

p25

In addition to new aircraft deliveries (refer to table), the Group has flexibility with

Up to 30 x E190s7and 2 x A330s8through wet leases

Acquisition of 7 x mid-life A319/A320 aircraft

I couldn't find any reference to a Dec delivery date ?

MarkR 24th August 2023 05:15 PM

Greg

Kent mentioned an A319 delivery last week upthread, I am assuming this is from the Feb announcement as today they said first deliveries will be in December (see the media release). That A319 “delivery” may be a red herring but I think I saw at least one in Perth when I was there Monday. I note the Pprune job ad that indicated 15 may be the final number.

Quote:

The first of seven mid-life A320 family aircraft to meet growing resources flying and Jetstar Asia recovery are expected to arrive before the end of December 2023.
https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/me...ational-fleet/

As it stands there are 7 new to Qantas aircraft coming that will start in December delivery wise, these are not inter group transfers.

Zac M 24th August 2023 05:18 PM

The first A319 is still in the USA, will be VH-8NP, it is fully painted and I believe undergoing further pre-delivery maintenance

Greg Hyde 24th August 2023 05:31 PM

This where they are being sourced:

Spirit Airlines Agrees To Sell 29 Airbus A319s To Leasing Company

https://simpleflying.com/spirit-airl...9-airbus-a319/

Greg Hyde 24th August 2023 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkR (Post 117315)
Greg

Kent mentioned an A319 delivery last week upthread, I am assuming this is from the Feb announcement as today they said first deliveries will be in December (see the media release). That A319 “delivery” may be a red herring but I think I saw at least one in Perth when I was there Monday. I note the Pprune job ad that indicated 15 may be the final number.



https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/me...ational-fleet/

As it stands there are 7 new to Qantas aircraft coming that will start in December delivery wise, these are not inter group transfers.

No mention of A319 in the above quoted document.

Skytraders have been operating A319's in Australia for many years.

Kent Broadhead 24th August 2023 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve S... 2 (Post 117271)
Ex Spirit Airlines A319-100 N503NK 2470 is due to be delivered to QFL as VH-8NP

Sorry everyone, I was getting ahead of myself. But this had long ago been announced.

Bob C 24th August 2023 07:17 PM

Skytraders' A319s are regular visitors to Perth and I noted VH-VHP on 19 August. They're very plain with only the Australian flag on the tail.

MarkR 24th August 2023 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Hyde (Post 117318)
No mention of A319 in the above quoted document.

Skytraders have been operating A319's in Australia for many years.

The quote says mid life A320 “family” ;)

Zac M 24th August 2023 11:29 PM

Midlife must be a very loosely used term. At 18 years old I would be inclined to say there probably isn’t a lot left in them…

Adrian B 25th August 2023 01:03 PM

HI all,

Just watched a YouTube video on the LAX operations. Can be found RARE LOOK inside QANTAS at LAX! by Airline Videos

Stirling D 26th August 2023 07:26 PM

A319 #2 N504NK has emerged from the paint shop as VH-8NQ.

Greg Hyde 27th August 2023 02:42 PM

For those playing at home (could be the next one)

N505NK ferried into Macon, GA (Where QLink A319 are being prepped) last Friday

Stirling D 27th August 2023 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Hyde (Post 117333)
For those playing at home (could be the next one)

N505NK ferried into Macon, GA (Where QLink A319 are being prepped) last Friday

Should be 8NR - from another forum.

Greg Hyde 28th August 2023 09:07 AM

VH-YQV B717 was deleted from the register on 21/08/23 as exported to USA

Christopher Campbell 28th August 2023 09:39 AM

Hey what’s happening with VH-EBD?

Rowan McKeever 28th August 2023 10:29 AM

VH-NXK left CBR for her trek to the States on Friday. Looks due to fly from MCT to SOF today, Monday 28th (local time). IIRC this is the first all-Y aircraft to leave the fleet.

Greg Hyde 28th August 2023 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stirling D (Post 117332)
A319 #2 N504NK has emerged from the paint shop as VH-8NQ.

And returned to Coolidge, AZ for continued storage

Stirling D 31st August 2023 08:32 PM

EBF looks to be scheduled to operate DRS-DRS today as QF7530

Greg Hyde 2nd September 2023 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rowan McKeever (Post 117341)
VH-NXK left CBR for her trek to the States on Friday. Looks due to fly from MCT to SOF today, Monday 28th (local time). IIRC this is the first all-Y aircraft to leave the fleet.

NXK has continued her ferry and is now flying as QF6070 and should arrive in VCV iv the next couples of days.

Stirling D 4th September 2023 11:59 AM

Take 2 on EBF, operating DRS-DRS test today as QF7530. Scheduled to depart to PUS for repainting on the 8th as QF7531.

Tristan S 4th September 2023 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stirling D (Post 117377)
Take 2 on EBF, operating DRS-DRS test today as QF7530. Scheduled to depart to PUS for repainting on the 8th as QF7531.

The back home to Aus?

Chris Z 4th September 2023 09:29 PM

EBN in BNE last night, the tug ran into the number two engine… destroyed it. Off for an engine change and engine mounts, hence why the LA flight didn’t depart until this afternoon with a aircraft swap.

Radi K 5th September 2023 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Z (Post 117379)
EBN in BNE last night, the tug ran into the number two engine… destroyed it. Off for an engine change and engine mounts, hence why the LA flight didn’t depart until this afternoon with a aircraft swap.

No idea what a tug is doing there!

https://imgur.com/a/Up6o2yw

Adrian B 5th September 2023 05:07 PM

Taking a stab that the guy in the left was the driver??

Brenden S 6th September 2023 11:46 AM

The question that needs to be asked is why was the driver reversing in that area?

MarkR 6th September 2023 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brenden S (Post 117392)
The question that needs to be asked is why was the driver reversing in that area?

Rumour has it Alan was out to prove anybody could drive a tug!

Michael Mak 6th September 2023 08:27 PM

VH-EBF is currently performing a test flight out of DRS as QF7530, first flight since November 2022.

https://fr24.com/QFA7530/31e8aff2

Stirling D 8th September 2023 08:32 AM

VH-NXM is off to the bin today. Departing CBR at 1015 as SXI2361.

Greg Hyde 8th September 2023 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Mak (Post 117394)
VH-EBF is currently performing a test flight out of DRS as QF7530, first flight since November 2022.

https://fr24.com/QFA7530/31e8aff2

EBF had a second test flight out of DRS

James Smith 9th September 2023 10:38 AM

EBF is ferrying DRS - PUS for repainting at present as QF7531 and is due to arrive in just under three hours.

Sean L 9th September 2023 12:10 PM

https://scontent.fsyd4-1.fna.fbcdn.n...zg&oe=6500DF16

Taken off an FB post
EBF due into CNS

Stirling D 9th September 2023 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean L (Post 117408)
https://scontent.fsyd4-1.fna.fbcdn.n...zg&oe=6500DF16

Taken off an FB post
EBF due into CNS

Continuing to BNE the same day.

Tom PER 13th September 2023 06:09 PM

Interestingly last months QF Investor presentation made reference to the 738 fleet being retrofitted with split scimitar winglets, so assuming these would have to be the later International XZ* birds that do the International sectors, anyone know more? Love the B767 tail on page 1!

https://announcements.asx.com.au/asx...wgg3tvbwjc.pdf

Page 40/41.

Also with large numbers of A321XLR arriving in the not too distant future are we likely to see the 20+ year old VX* series 738’s sold off for presumably scrap? There was a whisper a while back that some mid life 738’s were going to undergo freighter conversion, but guessing the additional incoming A321F’s have shelved this.

MarkR 13th September 2023 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Barber (Post 117427)
Also with large numbers of A321XLR arriving in the not too distant future are we likely to see the 20+ year old VX* series 738’s sold off for presumably scrap? There was a whisper a while back that some mid life 738’s were going to undergo freighter conversion, but guessing the additional incoming A321F’s have shelved this.

I am not sure Qantas will be getting rid of any aircraft in the near future given the P&W issues will no doubt affect new aircraft, they dodged this with the neo but not the 220. Wouldn’t be surprised to see the A321XLR visit Sydney as per of its route proving flights over the next ten days

Rowan McKeever 14th September 2023 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkR (Post 117428)
I am not sure Qantas will be getting rid of any aircraft in the near future given the P&W issues will no doubt affect new aircraft, they dodged this with the neo but not the 220. Wouldn’t be surprised to see the A321XLR visit Sydney as per of its route proving flights over the next ten days

The Airbus media for the route proving suggests the aircraft will only operate within Europe and to the US.


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