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James Smith 16th March 2022 07:41 AM

It looks as though ZNB cruised at 26,000ft which was well below optimal level and did an orbit about 180 miles from MEL. Speed looked to be normal for the flight at around 500kts.

They planned to fly route T25 which flies east of ASP but flew well into WA for a lot of the flight. Maybe the weather was still an issue, particularly when flying at a lower altitude to avoid any further lightning.

Max C 16th March 2022 08:45 AM

It would have been dispatched with a permissible unserviceability and FL260 would be a restriction on that. The track would suggest they needed to remain clear of any icing conditions.

C Patters 17th March 2022 08:44 AM

Any word when EBB & EBD will re-enter service given both Domestic & International capacities are returning as I'm guessing these aircraft will be needed shortly?

Peter C 17th March 2022 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Max C (Post 113875)
It would have been dispatched with a permissible unserviceability and FL260 would be a restriction on that. The track would suggest they needed to remain clear of any icing conditions.

The mechanics in Melbourne did a quick job, as ZNB was on its way to London via Darwin within 24 hours. As I write, due at LHR in 3 hours.

Peter C 18th March 2022 01:21 AM

Seems we have another QF9 delayed departure from Darwin - currently showing as 12 hours on the Qantas Flight Status webpage [ZNK being the aircraft].
The last two delays (7th & 13th) were updated to cancellations by following morning.

Peter C 20th March 2022 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter C (Post 113883)
Seems we have another QF9 delayed departure from Darwin - currently showing as 12 hours on the Qantas Flight Status webpage [ZNK being the aircraft] ...

While ZNK and ZND were swapped in London, so that ZND operated a normal timetable QF10 back to Melbourne, ZNK then operated a delayed QF2 to Sydney.

Now ZNA operating QF1 has been delayed in Darwin - 15 hours on the Qantas Flight Status webpage.

MarkR 22nd March 2022 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Max C (Post 113875)
It would have been dispatched with a permissible unserviceability and FL260 would be a restriction on that. The track would suggest they needed to remain clear of any icing conditions.

It needed a service but the main reason for the altitude and route was fuel burn, she was filled for the LHR leg

James Smith 9th April 2022 08:54 AM

QANTAS announced yesterday that it would be commencing flights to Bangalore, India from September, 2022 and Seoul from December, 2022, both four per week on A330s. Jetstar will also commence three flights per week to Seoul from November, 2022.

More details on the following link:


Greg Hyde 9th April 2022 04:55 PM

OQJ has ferried from Victorville to LAX

James Smith 9th April 2022 06:24 PM

Thanks Greg. This leaves just six QANTAS A380s remaining at VCV - OQA,E,F,G,I,L.

Tristan S 12th April 2022 04:34 PM

A333 VH-QPF performed a 2:24 post maintenance test flight today, BNE BNE, as QF6102.
She last flew 07DEC21

Peter C 13th April 2022 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Smith (Post 113999)
This leaves just six QANTAS A380s remaining at VCV - OQA,E,F,G,I,L.

Not forgetting the three 787-9s VH-ZNL,M & N.

With the ongoing disruptions to the 789s schedules both before, and more so since VH-ZNE was grounded on Saturday 9th, schedulers would have been grateful for an extra unit.

Dennis McLean 13th April 2022 03:16 PM

QPF did not waste time it is onto SIN as QF51

Greg Hyde 13th April 2022 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter C (Post 114014)
Not forgetting the three 787-9s VH-ZNL,M & N.

With the ongoing disruptions to the 789s schedules both before, and more so since VH-ZNE was grounded on Saturday 9th, schedulers would have been grateful for an extra unit.

Are we not expecting that 2 x A380 will be staying at VCV for scrapping ?

Dennis McLean 14th April 2022 02:18 PM

I have heard rumour's that the 2 may actually come back into service?? Aand that the 3 789's in the desert may come back earlier.

C Patters 14th April 2022 02:32 PM

Makes sense given current demand in international travel

Greg Hyde 14th April 2022 04:23 PM

The 3 x B789 are also at VCV

Flown direct from Boeing Everett

Max C 14th April 2022 08:07 PM

The FAA has put the brakes on 787 deliveries so depending on the status of the airframes, there could be a lengthy delay.

https://simpleflying.com/boeing-deli...s-by-end-2023/

James Smith 15th April 2022 01:44 PM

Have the three B789s at VCV been delivered to QANTAS and are in storage or has delivery been deferred and will be affected by the FAA inspections.

What I am asking is, if QANTAS want the first one by July, 2022 will there be a hold up in them taking possession due to FAA inspections or as they are older frames are they not affected.

Greg Hyde 15th April 2022 02:26 PM

I believe that the 3 x B789 have not been delivered to QF.
The first flight was to VCV and into storage
Can't confirm at that Boeing testing is complete.
There has been NO customer acceptance testing
They have not been added to the VH reg.
One has an "All White" livery ( a logo jet that never happened)

James Smith 16th April 2022 04:37 PM

Thanks for your insight, Greg.

Peter C 16th April 2022 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Hyde (Post 114024)
I believe that the 3 x B789 have not been delivered to QF.
The first flight was to VCV and into storage
Can't confirm at that Boeing testing is complete.
There has been NO customer acceptance testing
They have not been added to the VH reg.
One has an "All White" livery ( a logo jet that never happened)

I agree that no customer acceptance 'C' flights have taken place, so Boeing still 'owns' these three. However, while perhaps not registered, ZNL & ZNM have full VH registration markings ...

A fully painted VH-ZNM had a Taxi test on 16 Sep 2020 when its name "Mateship" was accidently revealed. It then completed a full B1 PAE-[MWH]-PAE flight on following day, before being flown to VCV for storage by Boeing a day later on 18 Sep.
http://www.paineairport.com/kpae18648h.htm

A fully painted VH-ZNL had a short B1 PAE-PAE flight on 12 Oct 2020, followed by a full B2 PAE-[MWH]-PAE flight two days later on 14 Oct, then on to VCV for storage by Boeing on 15 Oct.
http://www.paineairport.com/kpae18703e.htm

VH-ZNN with only a painted tail (NN on tip) and temporary reg of N1020K, had a Taxi test on 9 Nov 2020, followed by a full B1 PAE-[MWH]-PAE flight on 11 Nov, before being flown to VCV for storage by Boeing on 12 Nov.
http://www.paineairport.com/kpae18793t.htm

All three aircraft were initially parked in different areas at VCV compared to the Qantas A380s. I haven't seen any recent photos to confirm current locations.

Assuming Qantas activates customer acceptance on these three, the question then is whether with all 787 construction now at Charleston, will that acceptance still take place at Everett (PAE) ? Presumably ZNN would go to Portland first for completion of painting ?

Brian Wilkes 17th April 2022 02:30 AM

Rumour and it's just a rumour that ZNN would be in One World Livery!

C Patters 17th April 2022 09:42 AM

Do we know when ZNE will be back in service as it appears to be only a damaged engine cowling so shouldn’t be too difficult to repair?

Peter C 18th April 2022 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter C (Post 114027)
... However, while perhaps not registered, ZNL & ZNM have full VH registration markings ...

Probably should also have noted that all flights by these aircraft used callsigns BOE280, BOE281 & BOE282 for ZNL, ZNM & ZNN respectively.

James Smith 18th April 2022 09:31 AM

Quote:

Rumour and it's just a rumour that ZNN would be in One World Livery!
As QANTAS had two aircraft with One World markings, the retirement of OEF reduced this to one. Having ZNN with One World markings or livery would restore to two the aircraft with these markings in the fleet.

Rowan McKeever 20th April 2022 10:12 AM

Based on Greg's and Peter's info, I'd expect to see at least one additional B flight for each before any C flights would occur, particularly given the extended storage period.

IIRC there's an arrangement in place between the US and Australia whereby aircraft built by Boeing for Australian customers do not need to wear N***** test registrations and so appear with their VH-*** straight out of final assembly (despite not being officially on the Australian register). I believe similar arrangements also exist between the US and other countries, too.

James Smith 20th April 2022 11:51 AM

QANTAS operated a return flight to Apia yesterday (OF333/QF340) with A333 VH-OPJ routing BNE-APW-SYD. The aircraft arrived last night during thunderstorms with the APW-SYD leg taking seven and a half hours, which included holding. I am not aware of the reason for the flight.

C Patters 20th April 2022 03:14 PM

Does anyone know when EBB & EBD will return to service given the current demand on both domestic & international travel?

Peter C 21st April 2022 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C Patters (Post 114030)
Do we know when ZNE will be back in service as it appears to be only a damaged engine cowling so shouldn’t be too difficult to repair?

ZNE is back in the air today, operating QF9 Melbourne to Darwin with a 3 hour delay (same delay as yesterday's QF9)

Peter C 23rd April 2022 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter C (Post 114027)
... Assuming Qantas activates customer acceptance on these three, the question then is whether with all 787 construction now at Charleston, will that acceptance still take place at Everett (PAE) ? ...

These recent pics on Jen Schuld's Twitter feed probably answer my question :

https://twitter.com/JenSchuld/status...291074/photo/1

https://twitter.com/JenSchuld/status...088129/photo/1

Greg Hyde 23rd April 2022 02:03 PM

There are some numbers (could be right or wrong)

* Remove from storage (2wks) based on previous
* Return to Everett to complete B & C testing (2 wks)
* Handover to QF and ferry ( 1 wk)
* Pre-service checks and service entry (1 wk)

That's if :

* Return to Everett where they were built
* No issues of waking them up from storage
* Boeing can slot them in at anytime (Remember QF recently place a large Airbus order)
* There is not rework due testing (no waiting for replacement parts)
* ....

Looking at the best case, 6 wks before service entry.

MarkR 24th April 2022 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Hyde (Post 114063)

Looking at the best case, 6 wks before service entry.

Boeing are now looking at the second half of the year before deliveries recommence, and there is a significant queue ahead of QF

Gavin Otto 24th April 2022 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C Patters (Post 114050)
Does anyone know when EBB & EBD will return to service given the current demand on both domestic & international travel?

It is believed that these 2 aircraft are going to be converted to freighters

https://www.flightglobal.com/strateg...146742.article

James Smith 26th April 2022 09:40 AM

Gavin, my reading of the Flight Global story was that they were saying that VH-EBB & EBD were still in storage, not necessarily that these two A332 would be the ones converted.

There is a separate thread on this site entitled, "More Freighters for QF." Below are three separate posts from this thread which gives more clarity on the potential A332's to be converted:

Quote:

I heard somewhere it was going to be EBE and EBF.

Read the same, issue with the floor load limit (lighter construction) on the early models.

Apparently EBE is getting converted in Dresden and EBF in Mobile Alabama. Start in Q3 of 2022
The return to passenger service of VH-EBB & EBD could easily be timed for the commencement of the freighter conversion process for VH-EBE & EBF.

Greg Hyde 26th April 2022 11:20 AM

From a reliable source

EBB and EBD are going into a C check in Brisbane in May and will be out after approx 2 months as this is a huge maintenance check and there are corrosion issues that need to be repaired.

Alex Ch 26th April 2022 01:35 PM

There was a QF 73H which flew DRW-HKG on Monday (QF6028/VH-VXO). Any ideas?

Brenden S 26th April 2022 09:37 PM

C check most likely.

MarkR 26th April 2022 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Hyde (Post 114074)
From a reliable source

EBB and EBD are going into a C check in Brisbane in May and will be out after approx 2 months as this is a huge maintenance check and there are corrosion issues that need to be repaired.

That’s not a c Check, which typically take three weeks, more likely a D check otherwise known as a C4 or c8 check.

Rowan McKeever 27th April 2022 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Ch (Post 114075)
There was a QF 73H which flew DRW-HKG on Monday (QF6028/VH-VXO). Any ideas?

I'd be pretty confident to say it's gone for maintenance, probably at HAECO. Both legs of the flight (SYD-DRW & DRW-HKG) used positioning flight numbers rather than charter or freight flight numbers, and it's very unlikely that VXO would be the operating aircraft if it were a charter or freight operation.


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