Qantas 787

[Dennis McLean]

ZNB still showing 1/12 as delivery date. For 2018 - ZNC - 15/1, ZND - 22/2, ZNE - 6/7, ZNF - 22/8. Both G & H are showing now - ZNG - 9/11 and ZNH - 20/11.

That's all folks, till the new order ???????????????

[Grahame Hutchison]

http://www.16right.com/Aircraft-Images/displayimage.php?image=VH-ZNA D500-20171111-040.jpg

http://www.16right.com/Aircraft-Images/displayimage.php?image=VH-ZNA D500-20171111-043.jpg

[James R]

Nice Grahame.

[Cliff Cook]

Hi Grahame,

Your photos are so very clear and sharp focus and thank you for sharing! I will be able to see some B787-8 and B787-9 in SFO Airport on Saturday. (Local America Time)

Cheers from Cliff.

[Brian Noldt]

This coming Sunday night, 19th November, Channel 7 have a one hour special at 9.10pm "First Flight - Secrets of the Dreamliner"

From Qantas:
https://www.qantas.com/au/en/promotions/brand/first-flight-secrets-of-the-dreamliner.html

[Dennis McLean]

ZNB now showing 12/12 as delivery date,

[Greg Hyde]

ZNB had its ff on 30/11

[Greg Hyde]

ZNB completed its C1 flight earlier today.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE270

[C Patters]

ZNB currently on its delivery flight as QF6026 from PAE to MEL.

[Greg Hyde]

ZNB currently on its delivery flight as QF6026 from PAE to MEL.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/QFA6026

Due 22:35 tonight

[Alex Ch]

ZNB name is 'Waltzing Matilda'

[Greg Hyde]

ZNC has been rolled out of the factory

[Zac M]

ZNB will enter service tomorrow as QF414 and return as QF427. I would guess tomorrow would be the last day of domestic ops for the B789s until ZNC is online, however there will be one frame spare on Friday so it is possible they might run it domestically.

[Zac M]

ZNA will operate the first QF95 rotation

[Zac M]

ZNB's name has been taped over once again

[Greg Hyde]

ZNB's name has been taped over once again

Is there a official naming ceremony to unveil the name ?

Name on aircraft leaving Everett

https://twitter.com/JenSchuld/status/939598034270281728

[Grahame Hutchison]

It was taped over in my images from this morning's Sydney arrival.

[Greg Hyde]

ZNB commenced international operations on 16/12/2017, QF95, Melbourne to LAX

Also ZNA commenced international operations on 15/12/2017, QF95, Melbourne to LAX

[Greg Hyde]

ZNC has been rolled out of the paintshop in prep for ff.

[Dennis McLean]

Morning all, ZNC's delivery date is now shown as 22 January not 1 January. If I recall ZND was 22 February, is now shown as 15 February.

[Greg Hyde]

ZNC added to register on 20/12

Heavy snow in Seattle (well its winter)

[Fred C]

ZNC named "Quokka"

[Dennis McLean]

ZNC's first flight was on 11/1 as BOE271. Delivery now shown as 24/1.

[Greg Hyde]

ZNC was scheduled to make ff on 11/1 but was delayed until 12/1

[Adam W]

The 787 will be back on domestic ops from the 29th of this month operating MEL-PER-MEL. QF775/772. Unsure at this stage of any other flights or how long they will operate for.

[Rowan McKeever]

Same schedule as prior to commencing LAX services. 775/772/462/497 on weekdays. 422/439 Saturdays. MEL-PER-MEL Sundays (I can’t remember the flight numbers on Sunday). Last domestic operation is 775/772/462/497 on Friday 23 March, with QF9 switching to B789 and PER stop from the following day.

[Greg Hyde]

ZNC conducted a 02:03 "Photo" flight on 15/01.

Not sure if any Quokkas were sighted

[Mick F]

Apparently ZND will carry another Aboriginal inspired paint scheme similar to those seen on VXB, EBU and OJB (and OEH?) in the past.

[Rowan McKeever]

OEJ, not OEH (close but no cigar lol). And don't forget XZJ :)

[Mick F]

I thought it had a J in it, but kept thinking OJH (even though I know it wasn’t that one).

[Greg Hyde]

ZNC completed its third flight (c1) of 03:26 on 17/1

[Greg Hyde]

Any update on ZNC delivery date ?

I thought it is 22/1 (yesterday).

[Brian Noldt]

Greg,
The web is showing the delivery is the 24th and giving the time difference this would be 25th AEDST

[Brian Noldt]

VH-ZNC is showing as being delivered (24/1).

FlightAware has it departing 11:40 PST (06:40 AEDT) as QF6026 arriving Melbourne 21:52
24/1

[Greg Hyde]

Who said Quokkas couldn't fly.

thks, Brian

[Dennis McLean]

It departed PAE at 12.47pm PST, 23/1, due in MEL at 11.36pm AEDT, 1hr 9min to go.

[Grahame Hutchison]

Just saw QF Dreamliner VH-ZNC track out to sea past Sydney, heading for its Wollongong waypoint.

[Greg Hyde]

ZND (Tail) has broken cover in it's new livery.

Sighted at the Boeing fuel dock, only the tail has been painted.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUVytwIUMAAnlSG.jpg

[C Patters]

Looks like they will use a slightly darker, richer tone red on the tail similar to VH-XZJ to reflect the indigenous livery. Can't wait to see it!

[Zac M]

ZNC is scheduled to enter service on Monday as QF775

[Dennis McLean]

ZND first flight due 31/1, presumably US time. Delivery due 26/2.

[Greg Hyde]

thks, Dennis.

I expected that it would fly before it was painted, so that it wouldn't spoil the big reveal.

Any bets on the name "Dreamtime"

[MarkR]

Qantas have announced that the dreamliners start Sept 1 BNE to LAX then continuing on to New York, with a second service leaving late afternoon four days a week serviced by 747s.

From Dec 1 both services will be dreamliners

Schedule information for BNE-LAX – 1 December onwards*
Route Flight Dep Time^ Arr Time^ Frequency Aircraft
BNE-LAX QF 15 1120 0600 Daily B789
LAX-JFK QF 11 0820 1630 Daily B789
BNE-LAX QF 55 1715 1155 Mon, Wed, Fri, Sat B789

LAX-BNE QF 56 2105 0500+2 Mon, Thu, Fri, Sat B789
JFK-LAX QF 12 1800 2055 Daily B789
LAX-BNE QF 16 2320 0715+2 Daily B789

[Dennis McLean]

ZND's first flight now shown as 12 February, still 26 February for delivery

[Zac M]

It will be registered N1006F for testing, currently all white with the exception of the tail, and I would say if that date stands it will be delivered all white.

[Greg Hyde]

ZND did taxi trails/testing on the 3/2

[Yusef D]

QF aren't taking up the option on their next 787. I'm a little surprised.

[Grahame Hutchison]

The "Bean Counters" are nervous for some reason !

[Greg Hyde]

Don't forget that "Project Sunrise" is in the background which may ultimately decide the number of B787s in the fleet.

[Greg Hyde]

ZND 63390 added to reg 08/02

[Martin Buzzell]

ZND is being painted. Saw the photo on Twitter, but can't work out how to post it here.

[Rowan McKeever]

ZND is being painted. Saw the photo on Twitter, but can't work out how to post it here.

The photos are included in / attached to the press release (https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media-releases/qantas-unveils-special-indigenous-aircraft-livery/).

[Adrian B]

Wow looks impressive - that would have kept the paint masking guys busy..

[Greg Hyde]

Qantas unveils indigenous livery Boeing 787-9

Named: Emily Kame Kngwarreye

Qantas has revealed images of its fourth 787-9 in the paintshop at Boeing’s Everett facility just outside Seattle featuring a special Indigenous livery.

Qantas says the new livery is based on a work by the late Northern Territory artist and senior Anmatyerre woman, Emily Kame Kngwarreye. Her 1991 painting, Yam Dreaming has been adapted for the aircraft by leading Indigenous-owned design studio Balarinji.

After emerging from the paintshop the aircraft, VH-ZND, which is to be named Emily Kame Kngwarreye, will undergo flight testing before being ferried to Alice Springs for a special welcome event on March 2.

http://australianaviation.com.au/2018/02/qantas-unveils-indigenous-livery-boeing-787-9/

[James Smith]

Dot and the kangaroo!

[Greg McDonald]

Would have been much better to do the whole body. It looks half done the way it is!

[Dennis McLean]

ZND first flight underway, left PAE at 12.40pm US time as BOE272, 10 minutes ago. It is due at MWH at 2.16pm.

[Greg Hyde]

ff in her new party dress

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWHWQe6UMAA8mq6.jpg:large

[Yusef D]

with the tiny little ram air turbine deployed!

[Greg Hyde]

Hate to be the painter who thought they had missed a spot.

[Martin Buzzell]

I wonder what nick name it will get by tech crew?

[Greg Hyde]

"Spot" or ZND carried out two customer acceptance flights on 19/2 and 20/2

[Grahame Hutchison]

It's very cold over in Seattle at the moment (-3 degrees), and VH-ZND required a de-ice before the Customer flight.

[Dennis McLean]

ZND as QF6026 schedules out of PAE at 8.45pm PST 28/2 USA time, due at ASP at 05.14am ACST Friday 2/3

[Dennis McLean]

It has just departed at 9.16pm due at ASP at 05.44am tomorrow.

[James Smith]

Airborne, out of 13,000 feet at this time.

[James Smith]

Climbed to 34,000 in 20 minutes.

[Noel White]

About to land in Alice.

[Dennis McLean]

Landed 06.20 ACST

[Brian Noldt]

VH-ZND as QF6628 has left The Alice and is en route to Sydney. Arrival time is 14:49 according to Flightaware

[Greg Hyde]

Indigenous-painted Qantas 787 ‘Yam Dreaming’ arrives in Alice Springs

Clear skies and Australia’s rugged outback have greeted the arrival of Qantas’s fourth Boeing 787-9, which features a special indigenous livery inspired by the work of artist Emily Kame Kngwarreye.

The aircraft, VH-ZND, departed Boeing’s final assembly line at Everett a little after 2100 (local time) on Wednesday. Some 15 and a half hours and almost 7,000nm later, it touched down at Alice Springs Airport a little after 0600 on Friday, where it received an Airservices Aviation Rescue and Fire Fighting (ARFF) monitor cross.

Full story and pictures

http://australianaviation.com.au/2018/03/indigenous-painted-qantas-787-yam-dreaming-arrives-in-alice-springs/

[Greg Hyde]

ZND entered domestic service this morning

[James Smith]

ZND operated QF462 MEL-SYD and QF497 SYD-MEL this evening.

[James Smith]

I came across a newspaper item from France saying that QANTAS will announce a new Perth to Paris route with 789s when they inaugurate the first Perth to London flight on Saturday next week. Possibly to commence as early as later this year.

The link to the English version of the article is:

https://soperth.com.au/perth-paris-direct-qantas-20994

The announcement may be made with a later date but there is very little capacity with the second batch of four 789s with daily services from BRI to LAX to JFK from 1 September, 2018 and a further four per week BRI to LAX from 1 December, 2018. Three of the four 789s will be fully utilised with the fourth operating to LAX once per week.

Maybe there is capacity to squeeze two flights per week from Brisbane to Perth to Paris but not any more, unless the flight turns around in Perth on some days. Maybe a further order for 789s will be announced as well.

It will be interesting to see what is actually announced next week.

[Dennis McLean]

Hi James, I have looked at the schedule for No's 5-8. As you said 2 are fully utilized on the 15/16 Daily to LAX & JFK. The extra flights are 1,3,5,6 BNE/LAX/BNE. However the Wednesday aircraft remains in LAX till Thursday night so the return from LAX is on a 1,4,5,6 nights arriving in BNE on 3,6,7,1. So Aircraft 7 will operate 1,3,6 out of BNE returning on 3,6,1. Aircraft 8 will operate the 5/7 flight. This leaves 7 to 5 days available. Therefore that will only leave enough capacity to operate 2 extra flights, eg BNE/Chicago/Dallas/Seattle/BNE. I can see 1 and a bit days off in BNE like Aircraft 7 with 1 and a bit days off in LAX. BNE/CDG/BNE on a 3,7 perhaps????? who knows.

The Courier Mail in Brisbane today has mentioned the possibility of a new destination to be announced next week, is it QF???, Dennis

[James Smith]

Thanks for your investigation and input, Dennis. I also thought that there may be a crossover with the MEL-LAX QF 789 services where the MEL flight went back to BRI or vice versa but I can't see that happening either as the days don't align.

From September, when QF MEL-SFO services commence there are only two flights per week with the 789 from MEL-LAX and they are on days 1&5 returning on days 2&5, so the Monday arrival does not leave LAX until Tuesday evening.

It looks like there are two 789 lay days in LAX in the schedule from December, 2017 - Monday to Tuesday evening for MEL-LAX-MEL and Wednesday to Thursday evening for BRI-LAX-BRI. They are possibly for maintenance requirements to further utilise the QF LAX facilities, but for such new aircraft you wouldn't think that would be required.

Time will tell as to what additional flights aircraft 8 will operate.

[Dennis McLean]

Anyone know if ZND is doing the first QF 9 to LHR on Saturday??

[Rowan McKeever]

Anyone know if ZND is doing the first QF 9 to LHR on Saturday??



I believe it is, yes (STC obviously).

[James Smith]

ZND did a return flight from Melbourne to Perth today (Friday) and is overnighting in Melbourne, hopefully in readiness for QF9 tomorrow (Saturday) departing at 16:20 for Perth and Heathrow.

[Greg Hyde]

How to survive the Qantas Dreamliner 787 epic 17-hour plane flight from Perth to London

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-24/qantas-dreamliner-how-to-survive-epic-17-hours-on-board-aircraft/9572786

[James Smith]

ZND is indeed operating the QF9 service today and is about an hour west of Melbourne on its way to Perth. It is then scheduled to depart Perth at 18:50 local time which will be 21:50 in Sydney.

[Dennis McLean]

Thanks. As a matter of interest, ZNB left for Perth 45 minutes earlier, at 15.35 on QF777, a domestic, Insurance?? It is scheduled to come back to MEL tonight on 648 at 23.25. Is that a first overnighter for PER/MEL with the 789?

[James Smith]

With 6.5 hours on the ground in Perth it could well have a secondary purpose as a back up 789 for the Perth to London leg. Good insurance against negative publicity on such an important inaugural flight if it was cancelled or extremely delayed while a replacement aircraft was flown in.

[Dennis McLean]

Touched down at LHR at 05.03am. Today is ZNA.

[James Smith]

ZND has just departed LHR as QF10 to PER.

[James Smith]

An interesting article from Australian Business Traveller addressing the potential of QANTAS PER to CDG flights on the 789. Commence in late 2019 if the economics of the PER to LHR flights work out. No mention of ordering additional 789s though but FRA mentioned to follow. The link is:

https://www.ausbt.com.au/london-done-now-qantas-eyes-non-stop-perth-paris-boeing-787-flights

[Dennis McLean]

It is a pity he cannot announce where the new port from BNE will be from 1 December????

[Michael Cleary]

It seems that a certain Travel Agent in Perth scored Seat 1A on the first QF9.

He is of course known here - one Luke Chittock.

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/travel/perth-london-direct-flight-guessing-game-gets-luke-chittock-seat-a1-ng-b88781556z

[James Smith]

Air New Zealand have just announced the commencement of year round Auckland to Chicago services 3 times per week with 789s from 30 November, 2018.

The Routes Online post is:

Air New Zealand on Wednesday (28MAR18) morning local time announced new service launch to the US, which sees the Star Alliance member offering Auckland – Chicago O’Hare route. Scheduled to be operated by 275-seater Boeing 787-9 aircraft, this route will commence on 30NOV18, 3 times a week on year-round basis. The following schedule is effective 30NOV18 – 09MAR19.

Reservation for this new route gradually opened after 0840NZT 28MAR18.

NZ026 AKL2010 – 1615ORD 789 357
NZ027 ORD1910 – 0630+2AKL 789 357

Block time is around 15 hours for NZ026, nearly 16.5 hours for NZ027.

It will be interesting to see if QANTAS responds with flights from Brisbane to Chicago with some spare 789 capacity from the fourth Brisbane based aircraft. The US seems to have left the spotlight somewhat with the commencement of non stop flights from Perth to London. With the Air NZ block times, specifically the return flight, would the 789 have the range to operate from Brisbane to Chicago?

[MarkR]

With the Air NZ block times, specifically the return flight, would the 789 have the range to operate from Brisbane to Chicago?

Joyce mentioned Chicago was an option when in Seattle picking up the keys to the first 787 last year

"In addition we want to fly somewhere new in the states," Joyce said, with the announcement of which city will see the red-tailed Dreamliners to be made "later this year or early next year."

"That will either be Seattle where we would work with our partner Alaska Airlines, or it will be Chicago or Dallas working with American Airlines."

[James Smith]

Another interesting article from Australian Business Traveller following Alan Joyce addressing the Aviation Club in London on the potential of QANTAS flights to Chicago (ORD) with the 789:

https://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-eyes-chicago-as-next-non-stop-boeing-787-route

[Dennis McLean]

ZNE due to roll out 6 June, USA time of course

[Reece perram]

Will ZNF be in the Everett production line around the time of ZNE rolling out?

[Dennis McLean]

From what I see, no.

[Dennis McLean]

ZNE now in Pre Flight Prep.

[Dennis McLean]

ZNE now in Fuel Dock, Spot FD-3, First flight must be getting closer

[Greg Hyde]

ZNE/63391 added to register on 12/6

[Dennis McLean]

ZNE now of Flight Line Stall 101.

[C Patters]

Has anyone managed to capture a photo of ZNE?

[Greg Hyde]

ZNE made its ff today

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgQFFfjVMAAGiTx.jpg

[Dennis McLean]

ZNF showing as parts arriving

[Reece perram]

When will ZNF be in the production line?

[Max C]

B787 production details

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FH3Y2-vRUgojntPkCSJI5Pd-15rsJ1a0SFCRaT-iqgo/edit#gid=2

[Reece perram]

Thanks, thats a really helpful tool!

[Greg Hyde]

ZNE completed its 2nd & 1st C flight on 26/06

[Dennis McLean]

ZNE now due for delivery 30 June, would be USA time.

[Dennis McLean]

ZNF still showing as parts arriving and is in Position 0 with Load Date at 4 July. Delivery still showing as 24 August.

[Reece perram]

Shame i can't take photos on the boeing factory tour!! i can't wait to see her in the construction line

[Dennis McLean]

ZNE on the way, departed PAE at 10.37am PDT on 30/6 as QF6025, due in MEL at 6.19pm tonight.

[Greg Hyde]

ZNE is named "Skippy"

[Dennis McLean]

ZNF undergoing final assembly

[Greg Hyde]

ZNE entered domestic service last Saturday (7/7/18)

Its done a few MEL - BRI - MEL laps since starting work.

[Erik H. Bakke]

Any Sydney visits known to be planned for this (or the other 787s) over the next few weeks?

[Zac M]

Very doubtful, never rule anything out but I dont believe anything is scheduled

[MarkR]

ZNE entered domestic service last Saturday (7/7/18)

Its done a few MEL - BRI - MEL laps since starting work.

Bari Italy is an odd domestic destination :D

[Reece perram]

Hey everyone
I did the Boeing factory tour today at Paine field and ZNF's aft & forward sections were being attached to the mid section. The wings were cured onto the bottom of the mid section also.

[C Patters]

Does anyone know if any of the remaining 787's to be delivered this year will feature a "One World" livery similar to OEF & EBV?

[Dennis McLean]

ZNF was rolled out on 20 July, is now on the Flightline in Pre-Flight Prep.

[MarkR]

Qantas has today announced Hong Kong as the next destination for its Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner.

From December 2018*, customers travelling on selected Qantas flights to Hong Kong will experience the Dreamliner’s next generation Economy, Premium Economy and Business class cabins:

Brisbane to Hong Kong from 19 December 2018
Melbourne to Hong Kong between 13 December 2018 until 29 March 2019
Sydney to Hong Kong from 30 March 2019.

The changes are timed with the arrival of Qantas’ eighth Dreamliner and will join the national carrier’s A330 and A380 aircraft that also fly to Hong Kong.

Hong Kong joins Los Angeles, New York, London and San Francisco as international destinations served by the Qantas Dreamliner, as the more efficient aircraft gradually replaces the 747 on key routes.

https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media-releases/qantas-dreamliner-goes-to-hong-kong/

[Erik H. Bakke]

So Sydney will finally get them as well from 30 March 2019.

More variety to spot and photograph, great news :)

[Greg Hyde]

ZNF/36239 added to the register on 27/7

[Dennis McLean]

ZNF has now moved to Stall 101 on the Flightline, must be getting close to its first test flight.

[Greg Hyde]

ZNF got to use its wings (ff) earlier today

[Dennis McLean]

ZNF now due for delivery 21 August, brought forward 3 days from 24/8.

[Dennis McLean]

2nd test flight just completed landed back at PAE at 12.01pm PDT 15/8.

[C Patters]

Has anyone sighted ZNF's name yet?

[Dan Hammond]

Qantas just posted on their Facebook Page the following:

Our sixth #QantasDreamliner Boomerang begins the journey home from the The Boeing Company factory Sunday 3am AEST. Follow the journey of #QF6026 on Flight Radar 24

[Joseph Saragozza.]

Qantas posted on Instagram the sixth 787-9 VH-ZNF, is named Boomerang.

[Greg Hyde]

Boomerang has commenced delivery flight and due in MEL around 18:00 tonight

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/QFA6026

[Noel White]

VH-ZNF QFA6026 at FL429 passing east of SYD at 17:30 on route to MEL

[Greg Hyde]

ZNF entered service last night

from QF Source


QANTAS B787-9 VH-ZNF Enters Service.

Aug 29, 2018

QANTAS Boeing 787-9 VH-ZNF entered service this evening operating QF634 Melbourne – Brisbane.

[Dennis McLean]

It looks like that ZND will do the first MEL/SFO flight tomorrow night. It is on the way to LHR at the moment and will arrive back in MEL on QF10 in time. It also seems that ZNF will do the first QF15 tomorrow as it is still doing BNE/MEL/BNE/MEL/BNE. A 789 terminates in BNE at 21.25 tonight and there is no 789 flight BNE/MEL tomorrow morning.

[Zac M]

ZNF will spend today in Melbourne and operate QF9 tomorrow, ZNB will take up the remainder of the MEL-BNE flights today and will do QF15 tomorrow. ZNE will position up to BNE to ops the second B789 QF15.

As you suggested ZND will have the honours for the inaugural MEL-SFO QF49

[Dennis McLean]

A 789 is showing on Flight Aware - MEL/BNE as QF 628 today, 17.20/19.00 (a bit quick??). Presume this will be ZNE for Sunday's QF15.

[Zac M]

628 is showing as operating as a B73H (VXD) and ZNE will be doing a ferry as 6116.

[Dennis McLean]

oh ok thanks, but my f/a showed a 789 0n 628??

[Zac M]

Ive actually looked again and discovered that there is no QF628 today and the service ops by VXD is tomorrows 628. Flightaware isn't always the most accurate source, this is certainly one of those cases.

[Greg Hyde]

ZNF commenced its 1st int service with QF9 last night

[Brenden S]

Back into Perth on the 3rd as QF 10

[Dennis McLean]

Another problem, first ZNF now not due in PER now till 21.13 tonight and also ZNE?? as OEJ continued onto to JFK from LAX on QF11 on Tuesday US time. Both ZND and ZNE in LAX.

[C Patters]

Is that information correct Dennis as flightradar is currently showing ZNE operating QF12 JFK-LAX?

[Dennis McLean]

Very strange, flight aware shows OEJ operating 11 LAX/JFK, but ZNE operating JFK/LAX, a glich I guess sorry all.

[Dennis McLean]

Just checked again, it shows OEJ as a 789 ????

[C Patters]

No worries Dennis all good. Looks like QF9 is all over the place again. EBA is operating today's service to Perth from Melb.

[Rowan McKeever]

Today’s QF9 PER-LHR will operate a number of hours late (ZNF operating), but is expected to arrive in LHR at around 9am on Thursday morning. This means that, barring any further issues, Thursday’s QF10 should depart on schedule and the ongoing disruption from this week will be resolved.

The QF9/10 sectors between PER and MEL are A330 westbound and B737 eastbound all/most of this week, but this was planned before ZNF went tech in LHR.

[Brian Noldt]

Australian Aviation has an article that 31/08/2018 was the last rotation LAX/JFK/LAX using 747-400 aircraft. It has now been replace with the 787-9 Dreamliners.

Link to the story here:

http://australianaviation.com.au/2018/09/qantas-switches-new-york-flights-from-747-to-dreamliner/

[Dennis McLean]

ZNG showing parts arriving still with a delivery date of 13 November. However, the QF schedules show QF55/56 re-commencing on 12 November with 789 (136) so I guess ZNG will be here well before then.

[Dennis McLean]

The QF schedules now show the QF55/56 BNE/LAX/BNE from 12 November now being operating by 744 with the 789 starting on 1 December.

[Dennis McLean]

ZNG showing parts arriving, now in Position 0.
ZNH showing parts arriving.

[Martin Buzzell]

A B737 eastbound! Good to see the loads are up there.

[Dennis McLean]

ZNG now showing "undergoing final assembly" moved to position 1. Load date was 24 September.

[Scott L.]

At the Boeing Everett facility yesterday, the 7th 787 for Qantas (production line number 774) is second in the queue to be delivered, behind a Norwegian Air. At the time of visit, the Qantas bird was having the cabin seats installed. That airframe was followed by another Qantas 787 900, the production line number I could not see from our vantage point.

[Dennis McLean]

ZNG now showing undergoing final assembly, Position 4, Roll out date 12 October. ZNH now showing undergoing final assembly, Position 2.

[James Smith]

Does anyone know the expected delivery dates or months of each of the additional six 789s ordered by QANTAS? The only information given by QANTAS at the time of the announcement was that delivery was to be from late 2019 to mid to late 2020. I can't seem to find any more specific information on line.

[Greg Hyde]

ZNG/36240 was added to reg on 16/10

[Dennis McLean]

ZNG now showing in Pre Flight Prep, Roll out was 12 October, first flight not due till 5 November with delivery still at 13 November.
ZNH Undergoing final assembly, Position 4, delivery still showing as 26 November.

[Greg Hyde]

ZNH/36241 was added to reg on 25/10

[Dennis McLean]

ZNG at Fuel Dock, Position FD-4, first flight due 5 November, delivery due 13 November
ZNH at Fuel Dock, position FD-3, delivery still shown as 26 November

[Joseph Saragozza.]

What are the chances of the 787-10 as a A332/3 replacement. With the eldest being 16 and 15 years old respectively, or are those replacements not being considered as yet with the recent cabin refresh they have had?

[Yusef D]

maybe a combination of 787-9 and -10. don't know if the -10 could do all of the A330's Asian routes with a full load, but they might become -9 routes. (ie SYD-PEK, SYD-HNL)

[Adam W]

As far as an A330 replacement for Qantas goes, my money is on a combination of 797s (if Boeing goes ahead with it of course) and 787s (maybe the -9 with less premium seating to increase the total seat count).

[Dennis McLean]

Remember that QF have about 39 options still for the 787 family!!!

[Dennis McLean]

ZNG is in Pre Flight Prep in Location EMC????
ZNH is in Pre Flight Prep in Location Flight Line

[Greg Hyde]

ZNH performed a taxi test today.

ZNH first flight (flight plan filed) as BOE276

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE276

Even though my source is showing ZNH, this may actually be ZNG

[Dennis McLean]

ZNH has completed its first flights, PAE/MWH 09.58am/12.07pm PST - MWH/PAE 12.08/1.04pm looks like a "touch and go".

[Dennis McLean]

Does anyone know the area at Boeing called "EMC" this is where ZNG is at the moment. Its first flight is not till 10 November.
ZNH has completed a second flight this time to the paint shop at Portland.

[Scott L.]

Everett Modification Center. We were told it is a hangar for pre-delivery work for the 787's.

[Dennis McLean]

Thanks Scott. ZNG back on the Flightline, first flight now due today, 6/11 USA time

[Greg Hyde]

ZNG first flight plan has been filed

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE275

[Greg Hyde]

Looks like ZNG first flight scheduled for today has been cancelled.

[Dennis McLean]

First Flight as BOE275 has been completed just over 2 hours ago, 8/11 PST.
PAE 08.58/MWH 10.45am - 10.46am /PAE 11.32am. Another touch and go???

[Dennis McLean]

Second test flight underway as BOE275, PAE/MWH/PAE

[Greg Hyde]

Customer Acceptance Flight (C1)

Landing after C1 flight

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrmFXRgVsAA1UY6.jpg

[Dennis McLean]

ZNG delivery flight filed 13/11 (USA Time) QF6026

[Dennis McLean]

ZNG on the way, due in MEL at 12 midnight tonight.

[C Patters]

Any word on what ZNG's name is?

[Greg Hyde]

It could be Jillaroo

[Greg Hyde]

ZNG is about to cross the coast at the Gold Coast and is expected in Melbourne at around midnight

[Rowan McKeever]

It could be Jillaroo



Sure is Jillaroo :)

[Adrian B]

Landed 00:37 as QF6026

[C Patters]

https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/roo-tales/our-latest-dreamliner-is-named-after-an-outback-icon/

[Zac M]

ZNG currently pencilled in to enter service on Monday as QF9 to LHR

[Greg Hyde]

ZNH has returned to Everett after getting painted in Portland.

Still using BOE276

[Greg Hyde]

ZNH has completed its first c1 flight

[Dennis McLean]

ZNH is scheduled to depart PAE on delivery as QF6026 at 11.10am PST 21/11 due at MEL at 9.13pm tonight, 22/11.

[Greg Hyde]

ZNG currently pencilled in to enter service on Monday as QF9 to LHR

Pencil became black ink.

1st QF B787 to enter international service without doing any domestic routes.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/VHZNG/history/20181119/0605Z/YMML/YPPH

ZNH is on the way

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/VHZNH

[Rowan McKeever]

ZNH arrived in Melbourne last evening and is named Great Barrier Reef.

[Greg Hyde]

Qantas receives eighth Boeing 787-9

http://australianaviation.com.au/2018/11/qantas-receives-eighth-boeing-787-9/

[Dennis McLean]

Does anyone know which 789 will do QF55 on Saturday 1/12 after OJS finishes 744 services on QF56 that day.

[Zac M]

ZND I believe unless anything has changed since I last worked. Will operate QF630 on Saturday

[Dennis McLean]

Thanks Zac.

[Greg Hyde]

ZNH entered service on 28/11 with QF9.

Note: No domestic service for ZNG/H before entering international service

[Christopher Campbell]

Could Qantas announce a top up 787 order for late 2020/21 on Thursday?

[James Smith]

Nothing announced yesterday on any additional QANTAS 789 orders.

The Boeing 2019 production list has three QANTAS 789s slotted for delivery in 2019 with no specific date or month specified. This is confirmed in Alan Joyce's report:

Qantas International took delivery of three 787-9s in the half with a further six arriving from the first half of FY20 to take the total fleet to 14.

Does anyone know any specific delivery dates for the 789s and on what services the aircraft may be utilised on? According to QANTAS schedules, the 744s are still flying on all current services in February, 2020, apart from HNL where A333s take over in late August 2019.

[Greg Hyde]

The next 3 B789s are reportedly

VH-ZNI l/n 921
VH-ZNJ l/n 929
VH-ZNK l/n 941

[James Smith]

I have just seen a post dated 1 February, 2019 on the Australian Business Traveller site that has given some information on the QANTAS 789 delivery schedule and quoted the same line numbers as you, Greg:

Qantas is only due to receive 3 787-9's this year with all 3 to be delivered in Q4 this year most likely over a 6 week period in November/December. Line numbers for these aircraft will be LN921, LN929 and LN941.

We await an announcement on which routes the new aircraft will fly. Is Perth to Paris off the radar with the dispute with Perth airport over the expanded use of the domestic terminal for international flights? If so, SYD to SFO must be in line to be switched to the 789.

[Brenden S]

I thought AJ said that as they phase out the B744 the B789 will take over that line of flying? So one for one basis?

[James Smith]

QANTAS 789 VH-ZNG operated QF128 overnight and is turning around as QF127 from gate 9 this morning at 9:30 as the Dreamliner commences services to Hong Kong daily except Wednesdays. If I am not mistaken this is the first scheduled 789 international service from Sydney.

[James Smith]

QANTAS has announced that 789s due for delivery from October, 2019 will replace 744s from SYD to SFO on a daily basis from 4 December, 2019.

Qantas has today announced Sydney-San Francisco as the next route for its Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner.

From 4 December 2019, customers travelling between Sydney and San Francisco will experience the Dreamliner’s next generation Economy, Premium Economy and Business cabins.

The change is timed with the phased delivery of the airline’s six additional Dreamliners as the more efficient aircraft gradually replaces the Boeing 747 aircraft on Qantas’ international network by the end of 2020.

The Sydney-San Francisco Dreamliner service will operate daily and complements Qantas’ existing Dreamliner service between Melbourne and San Francisco which operates four times per week.

Full story: https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media-releases/sydney-to-san-francisco-announced-as-next-qantas-dreamliner-destination/

[James Smith]

The QANTAS timetable has already been updated to reflect the introduction of the 789 from SYD to SFO. Same departure, arrival and flight times as with the 744 up to 4 December, 2019.

[James Smith]

Three 789 are to be delivered to QANTAS in the October/November, 2019 period. Following the QANTAS announcement of 789 services to SFO from December, 2019 it looks as though the third aircraft will be used to resume daily MEL to HKG services from 4 November, 2019.

However, a 789 will become available for daily services when QF 127/128 resumes operations with A380s from 4 December, 2019 to 28 March, 2020. I can't see where this aircraft will be redeployed to at this stage. Maybe domestic services?

[James Smith]

The remaining QANTAS B744 routes when HNL returns to being operated by A330s and SFO is flown by B789s are SYD to JNB, HND and SCL.

As I understand it, CASA doesn't recognise the higher ETOPS rating for the B789 that it obtained when certified or shortly thereafter and would need to formally approve any higher time that would allow unrestricted QANTAS flights on the most economic circle routes, often close to Antarctica.

This would be an impediment for QANTAS commencing B789 services to JNB and SCL? I presume that any higher ETOPS rating will be a decision for CASA following a formal request from QANTAS. With B744s to be withdrawn by late 2020 there is not a lot of time to get this approval, if it is a convoluted process.

ETOPS was an issue with the Virgin B773 flights from MEL to JNB which were route restricted and ceased after operating for a short time.

Any further clarification or information on this topic would be most welcome.

[C Patters]

You are 100% correct James the B789 is not certified to operate SCL & JNB based on what I have been told from a reliable source.
Qantas haven’t yet explained how they are going to operate these routes without the 747.
I believe the same restriction applies to the A380 so there will be no aircraft in the fleet to operate these routes unless approval is given by CASA

[Rowan McKeever]

CASA does indeed permit the EDTO time necessary for QF (or anyone else, for that matter) to operate SYD-JNB and/or SYD-SCL. Rules changed in 2015.

[MarkR]

CASA does indeed permit the EDTO time necessary for QF (or anyone else, for that matter) to operate SYD-JNB and/or SYD-SCL. Rules changed in 2015.

Probably explains why LANTAM are going direct ;)

[Radi K]

CASA does indeed permit the EDTO time necessary for QF (or anyone else, for that matter) to operate SYD-JNB and/or SYD-SCL. Rules changed in 2015.

Does QF have EDTO240 or 330 for the 787?

[MarkR]

Does QF have EDTO240 or 330 for the 787?

Not yet I believe, they are yet to gain approval for polar ops or EDTO240/330, however the changes made by CASA in 2015 were at the behest of QF and there has been significant ops of a similar requiement elsewhere for some time, just don’t mention the recent JQ 787 issue ;)

[Brenden S]

SAA Ops a A332 JNB-PER-JNB, and MK ops A332's MRU-PER-MRU

[Yusef D]

Brenden you may need to recount the engines on those South African Airbuses.

I think you’ll find 4 engines under them, and lately those engines have been the underwhelming ones.

[James Smith]

South African Airways currently operates A343s on its PER flights.

[Brenden S]

The ops a Mix of A332, A343, A346
https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/9147465
https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/9115860
https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/8900650

[Yusef D]

I stand corrected!
Ok, I'm sitting. Interesting. Never seen 332 at PER.

[Bob C]

My records show that at least 5 different South African A332s have visited Perth over the last 12 months or so.

[MarkR]

South African Airways currently operates A343s on its PER flights.

Started in Feb 2018

http://aegwaspotters.blogspot.com/2018/02/south-african-airways-a330-243-zs-sxy.html

[Greg Hyde]

Rumour has it that the next B787 will be called "Longreach"

[James Smith]

Yes, confirmed in yesterday's media release on the new flights from BNE - SFO & ORD. Which 2019 delivery wasn't specified but your rumour is the next 789 which is due in late September, early October, Greg?

As a tribute to the airline’s Queensland roots, Qantas also confirmed today that one of its new 787 Dreamliner aircraft to be delivered later this year will be named Longreach.

“As we count down to our centenary and retire our extended range 747 aircraft, which all feature the iconic Longreach name, we’re proud to continue its legacy on one of our new 787s. Queensland is a pivotal part of our history and an important part of our identity,” said Mr Joyce.

[James Smith]

QANTAS to operate B789s to AKL:

Qantas will operate one of its five daily Sydney-Auckland services using Boeing 787-9s between 4 December 2019 and 28 March 2020.

Cirium schedules data shows that the 236-seat jets will replace 737-800s used on a daily service, increasing capacity by 63 seats each flight.

Source: https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/qanta-to-u-e-787-on-sydney-auckland-over-ummer-peak-459143/

This aircraft can be redeployed from the SYD - HKG route during the period that QF127/128 is operated by A380s.

Not sure which services the 789s will operate to AKL but QF141/142, QF144/145 and QF147/148 are all currently flown with B738s. The other two return services per day are operated by A330s.

[James Smith]

Further to my previous post, the QANTAS B789 will operate to AKL on QF141 departing SYD at 7:10 and return as QF144 arriving back in SYD at 14:55. Given the current times for QF73/74, the AKL flights could be slotted in, with a few minutes variation, after arrival from SFO and be back in SYD in time for departure to SFO.

Source: https://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-boeing-787-to-fly-sydney-auckland

[Brenden S]

VH-ZNI will be named Longreach as per the media reports.

[James Smith]

Has anyone heard a rumour that QANTAS will announce an order for an additional four 787-9s in August, presumably when the 2019 final results are announced on 22 August, 2019? This would give a 787-9 fleet of 18 aircraft.

[Christopher Campbell]

Has anyone heard a rumour that QANTAS will announce an order for an additional four 787-9s in August, presumably when the 2019 final results are announced on 22 August, 2019? This would give a 787-9 fleet of 18 aircraft.

An increase in 4 to bring it to 18 by the end of next year?

[James Smith]

I have not heard of any delivery dates but would suggest 2021 at the earliest, if the last of the current order of six 787-9s is not fully delivered until late 2020.

[MarkR]

The JQ 787s are thought to be heading to mainline once the A321XLRs arrive.

[Erik H. Bakke]

4 -9s with extra long range, perhaps, or is this too soon to be related to Project Sunrise?

[James Smith]

Could a B789XLR fly from SYD - JFK? It is only an additional 941 ml or 1,514 kl than PER - LHR. If so, it could be a stop gap until the Project Sunrise aircraft are chosen, ordered and delivered and then used on thinner US routes.

If the JQ B788s go to QF are there any routes that the A321XLR wouldn't be able to operate? SYD - HNL perhaps? Maybe, they could keep a small number of B788s for this route and any other long range route.

[James Smith]

QANTAS schedules daily 787-9s to Santiago from 24 June, 2020.

Qantas Airways today (08AUG19) announced service changes for Sydney – Santiago de Chile, as the airline schedules Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner service from 24JUN20, replacing Boeing 747-400. Subject to Government Approval, overall service will increase from 4 to 7 weekly.

QF027 SYD1235 – 1110SCL 789 D
QF028 SCL1330 – 1750+1SYD 789 D

Source: Routes Online

There is also a Media release on the QANTAS site. The flight times for the 789 is the same as the current 744 flights from SCL and only 5 minutes longer from SYD. The EDTO question must have been resolved.

[Dennis McLean]

Now that SCL has been announced, I have worked out the number of 789's needed for the extra daily service. The 789 on SYD/HKG 117/118 will still be operating as per the QF Timetables.

BNE - 4 - ORD 1356, SFO 247 and LAX Daily

MEL - 4 - SFO 1356, LAX 47 and PER/LHR Daily except QF9/10 on a Tues MEL/PER is a 332 as a 789 will be in maintenance in LAX from a SUN to Tue US time.

SYD - 4 - SFO, SCL and HKG all Daily.

That means that ZNL, number 12. must arrive in June 2020? I understood that the last 3 were all arriving later in 2020. Joyce must have something "up his sleeve".

[James Smith]

Nothing up AJs sleeve, Dennis.

There are currently 4 x 789s based in BNE. Two operate the daily QF15/16 BNE - LAX - BNE which continues to JFK as QF11/12. The third is the once per week BNE - HKG - BNE which then operates QF127/128 HKG - SYD - HKG on the other 6 days of the week. The fourth 789 operates QF55/56 BNE - LAX - BNE 3 days pw. This flight will cease when the 3 pw flights to SFO commence.

Therefore, when the new US services are in place the four BNE based 789s will operate the daily QF15/16 and the three pw to SFO and four pw to ORD.

Three new 789s are due for delivery in the fourth quarter of 2019. Two will be used to operate the daily QF73/74 SYD - SFO - SYD and the third will be used for MEL - HKG - MEL until 29/3/20 when the 789 will transfer to QF127/128 SYD - HKG - SYD to replace the seasonal A380 services to HKG. There will be 11 789s operating by the end of 2019.

To operate daily services on QF27/28 SYD - SCL - SYD QANTAS will need at least another 789, and two if they don't juggle timings of the SFO or HKG 789 services. Otherwise they will need two 789s for SCL. In the Media Release for the 789 SFO services QANTAS didn't publish the timings of the flights, whereas in the more recent release for SCL they did.

Also, QANTAS published the following in both the SFO and SCL media releases:

QANTAS currently has eight 787-9s in its fleet, with a further six arriving from October 2019, bringing the total fleet of Dreamliners to 14 in the second half of 2020.

As they are saying that they will have 14 789s "in the second half of 2020" and not by the end of 2020, I presume that the 12th aircraft will be delivered in time to operate the SCL flights.

I guess that this is a very long winded way of saying that I agree with you Dennis, that the delivery of 789 number 12 will precede the commencement of 789 flights to SCL. The only other option that I can see is if the 789 is taken off the HKG service.

Then there are aircraft numbers 13 & 14 which I presume will operate to JNB. Not sure about HND services but I heard that QANTAS was trying to upgrade them to A380s if allowed by the airport. Also, that QANTAS maybe going to order another four 789s to be announced on 22 August, 2019.

[MarkR]

Then there are aircraft numbers 13 & 14 which I presume will operate to JNB. Not sure about HND services but I heard that QANTAS was trying to upgrade them to A380s if allowed by the airport. Also, that QANTAS maybe going to order another four 789s to be announced on 22 August, 2019.

Haneda said no to QF A380s a while ago

[James Smith]

To operate daily services on QF27/28 SYD - SCL - SYD QANTAS will need at least another 789, and two if they don't juggle timings of the SFO or HKG 789 services. Otherwise they will need two 789s for SCL.

Further to my post from yesterday and to answer Dennis' question.

Looking at the QANTAS SYD - SFO - SYD flights in July, 2020 the departure time for QF73 has been put back from today's 17:40 to 19:55 with effect from 29/3/20. This will enable QANTAS to operate to SCL with just the one additional 789, which it is presumed will be 12th aircraft that will be delivered in late May, early June 2020 as services commence on Wednesday 24/6/20. The last 744 service departs SYD on Tuesday 23/6/20 to SCL arriving back the next afternoon.

The routing will be SYD - SFO - SYD - SCL - SYD - SFO etc over a four day cycle. The 789 operating to SFO on Monday will return to SYD on Wednesday morning, operate to SCL at 12:35 and return to SYD at 17:50 on Thursday in time to operate to SFO at 19:55.

In addition, the HKG 789 services on QF127/128 will continue through mid June, 2020.

[Peter C]

VH-ZNI (l/n 921) has been shown as "Parts Arriving" since 15th August, and VH-ZNL is listed at l/n 1019, which suggests a mid July 2020 delivery, unless it gets pushed up the list.

[Dennis McLean]

It is needed earlier like early to mid June 2020 for the SCL service which starts about 20 June.

[Dennis McLean]

I believe that today is QF's financial announcement day, correct me if I am wrong. Any bets on an additional 4 x 789's?????

[Christopher Campbell]

Yes it is today

[Christopher Campbell]

Qantas 787-9 Project Sunrise Research Flights

Re-purposed 787-9 delivery flights scheduled for October, November and December
On-board research to test ways of improving wellbeing on ultra long-haul flights
Made possible by carrying 40 people to increase aircraft range
Qantas has announced three ultra long-haul research flights to gather new data about inflight passenger and crew health and wellbeing.
The flights form part of planning for Project Sunrise – Qantas’ goal to operate regular, non-stop commercial flights from the east coast of Australia (Brisbane, Sydney and Melbourne) to London and New York.
The three flights over three months will use new Boeing 787-9s and re-route their planned delivery flights. Instead of flying empty from Seattle to Australia, the aircraft will simulate two Project Sunrise routes – London and New York to Sydney.


https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media-releases/qantas-to-operate-project-sunrise-research-flights-direct-new-york-london-to-australia/

[James Smith]

No new 789 orders announced in the results media releases, unfortunately. However, an interesting comment from the CEO relating to Project Sunrise:

We know that Boeing and Airbus have aircraft that can do the job, and we have their best-and-final offers on the table – including a compelling offer from Boeing to deal with any delay to the 777X.

[Brenden S]

Has anyone got the S/N and the L/N for ZNI,J,K,L,M,N yet?

[Greg Hyde]

Keep it eye on the spreadsheets

http://nyc787.blogspot.com/

Should be due for an update.

[Peter C]

Has anyone got the S/N and the L/N for ZNI,J,K,L,M,N yet?

No S/N yet, and only the first four appear so far for L/N ...
ZNI 921 and currently in Position 0 Parts arriving; due into Final Assembly 28th
ZNJ 929
ZNK 941
ZNL 1019

[Brenden S]

Thanks

[Dennis McLean]

I have checked the 787 spreadsheets and there are no S/N's shown since L/N 885 which was delivered on 12 August.

[James Smith]

It will be interesting to see if the 787-9 non stop research flight from London to Sydney will be able to better the 20 hours 9 minutes and 5 seconds set by 744 OJA in 1989.

[Peter C]

As programmed, l/n 921 VH-ZNI "Longreach" is now 'Undergoing final assembly' in Position 1

[Dennis McLean]

VH ZNI roll out date scheduled for 13 September.

VH ZNJ roll out date scheduled for 1 October

[Yusef D]

Everett or Charleston?

[Peter C]

Everett or Charleston?

All from Everett, so avoiding the Charleston issues

[Peter C]

VH ZNJ roll out date scheduled for 1 October

VH-ZNJ is now shown as "Parts Arriving"

[Peter C]

All from Everett, so avoiding the Charleston issues

May have been a bit premature with this call, as there has been no movement on the spreadsheet since VH-ZNI moved to position 4 "Undergoing Final Assembly" and VH-ZNJ moved to Position 0 with "Parts Arriving, both on 11th September. Maybe someone with wider sources can comment.

[Dennis McLean]

It appears the websites with their spreadsheets have not been updated for a while. So individual aircraft probably are well advanced on what is currently shown. The Google spreadsheet for Boeing Test flights 747, 767, 777, 787 has not been updated since 20 August.

[Greg Hyde]

ZNI has finally appeared on the Boeing flightline

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFAfq_JU0AAIZZ7.jpg:large

From Jen Schuld