Qantas 787

[Kent Broadhead]

ZNK did 5 SYD-SYD flights yesterday, including at around 6.40pm after the worst of the storm had passed.

[Peter C]

"A bunch of crew need sectors"
https://twitter.com/Keg767/status/1447141204928331782?t=tfED72whfpZahBB1uRQR1A&s=19

In summary, 83 sectors over 7 days, comprising ...

ZND : 22 over 3 spread out days including one SYD-MEL rotation
ZNE : 23 over 3 consecutive days including one SYD-MEL rotation
ZNG : 8 on 1 day (after return from SIN Maintenance)
ZNH : 11 over 2 consecutive days including one SYD-MEL rotation (before heading to SIN for Maintenance)
ZNK : 19 over 3 consecutive days including two SYD-MEL rotations

[C Patters]

Does anyone know where ZNF is currently? Is it undergoing maintenance somewhere?

[Peter C]

ZNF appears to have undergone Maintenance in Melbourne from 3rd to 22nd September, then it flew to LAX, and has been either undergoing further maintenance or is in storage there ever since.

[Dennis McLean]

As a matter of interest there is only 1 789 flying at this very minute 2.30pm BNE time.
It is ZNI doing MEL/LAX.
The rest are:
ZNA in BNE, ZNB, D & F in LAX, ZNC in MEL, ZNE & G in SYD, ZNH in SIN, ZNJ in LHR and ZNK in DRW.

[Peter C]

Does anyone know whether ZND suffered any damage in the Brisbane airport tornado yesterday?
It was due to operate QF15 to LAX departing 11:10 AEST. Last time I looked, that flight has been delayed to 22:00 AEST today.

Meanwhile ZNG was positioned from Sydney to Brisbane last night, and is operating today's QF15.

[Nigel C]

I would presume so Peter. From video footage I've seen she was weathercocked off her nosewheel chocks during the tornado's passing....it was quite impressive (and scary!)to watch.

[C Patters]

Does anyone have an update on what damage was done to ZND during the recent storms in Brisbane? Are there any pics of the damage?

[Peter C]

... ZND ... was due to operate QF15 to LAX departing 11:10 AEST. Last time I looked, that flight has been delayed to 22:00 AEST
Seems delay was to allow ZNI to operate QF94 to Melbourne yesterday, position to Brisbane as QF6019 early yesterday evening, then operate QF15D overnight.

Begs the question, what is the issue with ZNA that prevented it being used for QF15D, as it has been in Brisbane since the afternoon of the 18th?

[C Patters]

Sounds like there is a bit going on with the 787 fleet at the moment!

[Greg Hyde]

Does anyone have an update on what damage was done to ZND during the recent storms in Brisbane? Are there any pics of the damage?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1452054001780920320

[C Patters]

Thanks Greg for sharing. Hopefully the damage is minor & can be fixed easily so it can get back in the air

[Greg Hyde]

ZND is currently en-route to Melbourne as QF6142

[Adrian B]

From the looks of it on Flightaware she was at FL390, so hopefully indicating no punctures from the Brisbane incident.

[Greg Hyde]

Qantas Yam Dreaming 787 Dreamliner damaged by tornado

A Qantas Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner suffered undisclosed damage after an unexpected tornado tore through Brisbane Airport on Friday afternoon.

Video footage of the aircraft, registration VH-ZND, shows the strong winds dramatically tugging and pushing the 128-tonne plane, as it stood at the gate.

The three-year-old Dreamliner, boasting the iconic Yam Dreaming livery, had landed at Brisbane 6:30am on Friday morning after completing flight QF16 from Los Angeles.

https://australianaviation.com.au/2021/10/qantas-yam-dreaming-787-dreamliner-damaged-by-tornado/

[C Patters]

ZND is operating today's MEL-LAX QF93 so it couldn't of suffered much if any damage which is great news!

[Peter C]

New route for a Qantas 789, with ZNF currently positioning from LAX to SIN as QF6015, presumably for 3yr maintenance - the last of the 2018 deliveries to undergo this work.

[Peter C]

With the exception on ZNA which has been in storage at Brisbane, then Sydney since 19 Oct, all ten remaining Qantas 787-9s were in the air today (Sunday 19th Dec).
The last time all eleven were in the air on the same day was 18 March 2020.

[C Patters]

Does anyone know when ZNA will return to service?

[Brenden S]

When the maintenance is finished.

[Jamie D]

Does anyone know when ZNA will return to service?

ZNA is currently operating the QF1

[Glenn R]

I saw yesterday that VH-ZNL was powered up at Victorville.

[C Patters]

VH-ZNL is currently positioning to Everett from Victorville. Finally some movement on the last 3 x 787's for Qantas!

[James Smith]

Thanks for the information, Mr Patters. ZNL is just landing now at PAE as BOE280.

[Greg Hyde]

ZNL returned from storage.

https://twitter.com/royalscottking/status/1565483112171470848/photo/1

[Peter C]

VH-ZNN returned to Everett from Victorville on 13th (PDT)

[Peter C]

VH-ZNN returned to Everett from Victorville on 13th (PDT)

A link to a pic has been posted on the "Qantas Fleet & Operations" thread ... Post #333 (http://yssyforum.net/board/showpost.php?p=115137&postcount=313)

[James Smith]

It will be interesting to see if ZNN is still to be painted in a special livery?

[Brenden S]

I saw somewhere online last week that one of the aircraft is going to be painted in some retro livery, or some special livery.

[Brian Wilkes]

Rumour is a ONE WORLD livery?

[Peter C]

VH-ZNN (http://paineairport.com/images/kpae20263z.png) still unpainted as of 17th, when moved to stall 101.

[Peter C]

ZB280 Qantas 787-9 line 1019 VH-ZNL (http://paineairport.com/images/kpae20514d.png) was moved out of the factory last night for EME rework

[MarkR]

787 deliveries are back on hold

[David C]

787 deliveries are back on hold


Don’t tell me Alan Joyce was telling porkies when he said a new aircraft delivery every 3 weeks .😀

[MarkR]

Boeing Co. has halted deliveries of 787 Dreamliner jets because of a documentation issue, according to the Federal Aviation Administration.

The plane maker hasn’t handed over a Dreamliner since Jan. 26 from the production line or from the dozens stored awaiting delivery, said aviation-data provider Ascend by Cirium. Boeing last week said it had paused assembly of new jets.

The assembly pause has been lifted, but documentation issues discovered in the past week have led Boeing to halt deliveries pending a resolution.

“Boeing temporarily halted deliveries of 787 Dreamliners after notifying the FAA that it is conducting additional analysis on a fuselage component,” the FAA said. “Deliveries will not resume until the FAA is satisfied that the issue has been addressed.”

Boeing confirmed the halt and said it didn’t expect its full-year production and delivery guidance to be affected.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/boeing-halts-787-dreamliner-jet-deliveries-due-to-documentation-issue-115f2f2

[Yusef D]

Don’t tell me Alan Joyce was telling porkies when he said a new aircraft delivery every 3 weeks .😀

Lots of new narrowbody aircraft announced and re-announced, none of them actually "Qantas", just various subsidiaries and contractors.

[Greg Hyde]

Lots of new narrowbody aircraft announced and re-announced, none of them actually "Qantas", just various subsidiaries and contractors.

Agreed, He was talking about the QF group with JQ having NEO deliveries (3 currently under construction at Hamburg) and the re-delivering of the JQ A320's to Qlink.

As more NEO's arrive, more can be transferred to Qlink.

And that doesn't include the 3x B787's originally scheduled for June but probably pushed back due to the above.

[Brenden S]

https://investor.qantas.com/investors/?page=asx-announcements

Qantas Group HY23 Results Investor Presentations

Slide 50.
Interesting to see the aircraft timeline.
It is public knowledge that 4 A320's are going to Network from JQ this year. It is interesting to see another 4 A320's will be transferred from JQ to NA and 5 A319/320 will be heading to Network from some other source.
2 A320 externally sources for JQ Asia
19x A321LR for JQ
15x A321XLR for JQ
7x A320Neo for JQ
45 x A32X Neo's for JQ and 20 for QF

It will be interesting to see what will replace the A330 fleet, considering that QF still have many options on the B787's and A350's

[Peter C]

Movement at PAE/Everett as pictured on the 'Paine Field Blog' ...

ZB280 Qantas 787-9 line 1019 VH-ZNL (http://paineairport.com/images/kpae20386t.png) was moved to the 45-01 12th March for a repaint.

[Adrian B]

And a nose job from the looks of it... :)

[Greg Hyde]

Movement at PAE/Everett as pictured on the 'Paine Field Blog' ...

ZB280 Qantas 787-9 line 1019 VH-ZNL (http://paineairport.com/images/kpae20386t.png) was moved to the 45-01 12th March for a repaint.

Other than the nose job, it is reportedly defective paint on the wing upper surfaces.

[Greg Hyde]

VH-ZNL has been repainted and returned to the flightline

[James Smith]

Photos of VH-ZNL test flight today from PAE:

https://twitter.com/JenSchuld

Source: Jennifer Schuld@JenSchuld on Twitter

[Greg Hyde]

Photos of VH-ZNL test flight today from PAE:

https://twitter.com/JenSchuld

Source: Jennifer Schuld@JenSchuld on Twitter

Functional Test Flight

Named "Billabong"

[Peter C]

Paine Field Blog on 18th shows VH-ZNM (http://paineairport.com/images/kpae20466w.png) "ZB281 Qantas 787-9 line 1035 on the flightline for EME in-tank inspections. Goes to the paint hangar May 1 for a repaint."

Since ZNL went in for repaint between 12 and 28 March & delivery is expected 28 April, seems we can't expect delivery of ZNM until late May at earliest. No sign of ZNN exiting the factory yet.

[Greg Hyde]

ZNL had another test flight.

Based on the duration it may of been a Customer Acceptance Flight

[MarkR]

ZNL had another test flight.

Based on the duration it may of been a Customer Acceptance Flight

Yep, delivery now Apr 28

https://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/1648877563769659393

[Greg Hyde]

ZNL had another CA Flight yesterday.

Which normally means that QF found something that they like on the first CAF.

[C Patters]

Does anyone know why ZNC is positioning to Busan from Melbourne as QF6047?

[Zac M]

Maybe to have paint? I don’t know if ZNC is the same but ZND has some serious paint defects on the wings

[Greg Hyde]

Does anyone know why ZNC is positioning to Busan from Melbourne as QF6047?

paint

[Greg Hyde]

VH-ZNL was added to the VH-Reg on 21/04/23

[Tom PER]

Does anyone know why ZNC is positioning to Busan from Melbourne as QF6047?

Believe wing repaints on 787’s are only done at BUS and VCV, Air NZ’s were done at Victorville whereas the JQ ones have been done in Busan, Korea. Takes around 12-14 days.

[Greg Hyde]

Two QF B787's at Renton

http://paineairport.com/images/kpae20478e.png

ZNL about to stat a test flight with ZNM behind

[MarkR]

Two QF B787's at Renton

http://paineairport.com/images/kpae20478e.png

ZNL about to stat a test flight with ZNM behind

Not Renton

[Peter C]

Two QF B787's at Renton

http://paineairport.com/images/kpae20478e.png

ZNL about to stat a test flight with ZNM behind

C2 on 21st (C1 was on 19th) - both from Everett.

Edit : Oh, and based on its taxiway position, ZNL had just landed after the flight.

[Tom PER]

Two QF B787's at Renton

http://paineairport.com/images/kpae20478e.png

ZNL about to stat a test flight with ZNM behind

ZNM still sporting a replacement white rudder after her original one ended up on the one that got damaged in LAX whilst undergoing maintenance, which I think was ZNG.

[Tristan S]

Copy+Paste from another forum.

Qantas’ 12th 787 VH-ZNL will be flown to Melbourne this weekend as QF6040.

It will be taking a slightly longer route from Seattle to allow for extra research for Project Sunrise. Expected flight time around 20 hours.

[Peter C]

Copy+Paste from another forum.

Qantas’ 12th 787 VH-ZNL will be flown to Melbourne this weekend as QF6040.

It will be taking a slightly longer route from Seattle to allow for extra research for Project Sunrise. Expected flight time around 20 hours.

On its way, the flight trackers show an arrival around 05:00 AEST (point to point), although a 20 hour flight time would suggest 08:46 AEST Monday.

[Peter C]

According to Paine Field Blog "ZB281 Qantas 787-9 VH-ZNM moves to the 45-01 April 30 for repaint." VH-ZNM on flightline (http://paineairport.com/images/kpae20496t.png)

If the 7 weeks between ZNL going in for repaint and delivery holds, that would see ZNM delivered around 18th June.
If there was extra time involved in getting ZNL ready for its Project Sunrise test, then we might possibly see ZNM earlier.

[James Smith]

ZNL is due to land in MEL in less than an hour after flying west two-thirds of the way to PER and back to bring the total flight close to the 20 hour mark.

[Greg Hyde]

ZNL is due to land in MEL in less than an hour after flying west two-thirds of the way to PER and back to bring the total flight close to the 20 hour mark.

ZNL landed at Melbourne at 08:45 this morning with a flight time of 19:59

[Peter C]

Interesting to see the change in airspeed after ZNL turned around over the Bight https://flightaware.com/live/flight/QFA6040

[MarkR]

Interesting to see the change in airspeed after ZNL turned around over the Bight https://flightaware.com/live/flight/QFA6040

That’s not air speed, it’s ground speed.

[Brad Myer]

Any ideas when the last 2 will be delivered?

[Peter C]

Any ideas when the last 2 will be delivered?

Based on time between ZNL going into repaint & delivery (7 weeks) and ZNM going into repaint over this weekend, latest ZNM would be due is late June. However with ZNL there were two C flights, and possibly extra time to prepare for the Sunrise test flight, so could be a lot earlier. Pre Covid, delivery was on average 5 days after the last C flight.

AFAIK there has been no news of ZNN since going into the factory for JV work in Nov 2022.

[Peter C]

AFAIK there has been no news of ZNN since going into the factory for JV work in Nov 2022.

So Paine Field Blog (http://kpae.blogspot.com/2023/05/paine-field-may-2.html) later on 2nd came up with...
"NoE rework has been completed on ZB282 Qantas 787-9 VH-ZNN, it was moved out of the 45-12 yesterday to stall 101 for EME in-tank inspections. Goes to the 45-01 May 30 for a repaint."

On that basis, early July seems a likely delivery estimate. Timing on ZNM will give a better idea, although time in paint shop may be slightly longer that ZNL & ZNM.

[Michael Mak]

ZNC is on its way back after repainting in PUS, currently flying as QF6020 PUS-SYD, ETA 2059. She was in PUS for 12 days.

[Greg Hyde]

Any word when ZNL will enter service ?

[Dennis McLean]

ZNL due out on first revenue flight as QF9 MEL/PER at 16.30 today, 13/5, 1hr 25m late.

[Greg Hyde]

From KPAE Paine Field Blog

ZB282 (ZNM) Qantas 787-9 line 1051 was moved out of the 45-12 this week, EME rework complete. Delivery flight scheduled for June 28.

[C Patters]

I’m wondering if that date is a typo & it should be May 28th as Qantas needs ZNM to commence Syd-Auckland-NY which starts in Mid June?

[Peter C]

I’m wondering if that date is a typo & it should be May 28th as Qantas needs ZNM to commence Syd-Auckland-NY which starts in Mid June?

I would have thought the recent arrival of ZNL would cover this new thrice weekly service.

See also my post #1066 re delivery of ZNM. Even if ZNM arrives earlier, it should be noted that ZNL has just spent 12 days in pre service mods/checks.

Edit: As to the KPAE Paine Field Blog post, ZNM is ZB281 not ZB282. ZNN (ZB282) painted all white bar its tail, is not due into paint shop until 30th May.

[Rowan McKeever]

JFK commencing 14 June and FCO commencing 17 June would most likely have required both ZNL and ZNM to be in service.

ZNF has been out of service in MEL since the 12th and appears to have caused the cancellation of that day's QF93.

I assume the procession through PUS will continue at some point as well? Perhaps once ZNN arrives?

[C Patters]

Any reason why ZNF is out of action in MEL?

[Tristan S]

Not sure why she was AOG but she's now operating (a very delayed) QF9 MEL PER

[Michael Mak]

ZNB repositioned MEL-AKL as QF6011 yesterday (16/5) and is now (17/5) flying AKL-SYD as QF6012 (according to Flightaware). Anyone the reason of the repositioning flights?

[Greg Hyde]

ZNM & ZNN were both added to the register on 16/06/2023

[Michael Mak]

ZNA is currently on its way to PUS for repainting as QF6019, should be back towards the end of the month/early June. ZND will then go in for repainting shortly after.

[Greg Hyde]

ZNM had a local PAE test flight yesterday.

[Peter C]

ZNM had a local PAE test flight yesterday.

Based on the durations of the final ZNL flights, this could have been the FAA required FCF test flight. This makes the mooted delivery date of 28th May more realistic.

[Dennis McLean]

ZNM finished its next 2 flights PAE/MWH, 10 minutes on the ground, MWH/PAE, just under 1 hour ago.

[Greg Hyde]

May be a CAF based on flight duration.

[Greg Hyde]

When rolled out on 21/07/2020 ZNM was called "Mateship"

I've seen several images taken recently where it look like the name is taped over.

Does anyone know if the name was changed ?

[C Patters]

Delivery flight of ZNM is scheduled for June 3

[Greg Hyde]

ZNL delivery https://twitter.com/i/status/1654240988725121024 from QF

[Tristan S]

ZNN had it's first flight today (or was it yesterday? Timezone stuff) since October last year.
https://fr24.com/data/aircraft/vh-znn#3074ade0

[Tom PER]

Interestingly she’s still not been painted in full QF livery with the rego N1020K applied.

[Greg Hyde]

ZNN was to be a logo jet when first rolled out.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxF4D11aUAExWMk?format=jpg&name=900x900

JenSchuld image

[Tom PER]

Yep thatÂ’s what I was alluding too, I did hear whispers she was to be painted into a One World livery, but that was back when she first rolled out.

Just out of interest did Boeing paint -ZND and -ZNJ into their special schemes before or after customer acceptance? Or were they painted elsewhere after delivery?

[Stirling D]

They both had their first flights in their special liveries.

[Peter C]

Interestingly she’s still not been painted in full QF livery with the rego N1020K applied.

As previously reported on Paine Field Blog, ZNN is due into the paint hanger on 30th May.

[Peter C]

As previously reported on Paine Field Blog, ZNN is due into the paint hanger on 30th May.

That date with the paint hanger has now been updated by Matt Cawby to 29th May ... see VH-ZNN on 26 May (http://kpae.blogspot.com/2023/)

[Michael Mak]

VH-ZNA is repositioning PUS-SYD following repaint as QF6020, ETA 0541 on June 1st. She spent a total of 12 days in PUS.

VH-ZND should be ferried to PUS for repainting shortly after, currently she is operating as QF8 DFW-SYD.

[James Smith]

Are they only repainting the wings or the whole aircraft while in PUS?

[C Patters]

Am pretty sure its only the wings

[Michael Mak]

ZND will be ferry to PUS for repainting this morning at 1130 as QF6019: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/QFA6019/history/20230601/0130Z/YSSY/RKPK

[Alex Lui]

This would be VH-ZND. If you look at the previous flight, it operated QF8.

VH-ZNA is on its way to JNB as QF63 having arrived last night from PUS.

[James Smith]

ZND should be back from PUS by 14/6/23 to be in the B789 fleet and maybe even operate SYD-AKL-JFK on 14/6/23 with shiny repainted wings minus gaffer tape.

[Greg Hyde]

Are all these repaints "warranty jobs" or is QF getting hit for the costs ?

[Michael Mak]

This would be VH-ZND. If you look at the previous flight, it operated QF8.

VH-ZNA is on its way to JNB as QF63 having arrived last night from PUS.

Thanks Alex, typed too quickly on my phone. I fixed the original post.

[James Smith]

From another forum, VH-ZNM is scheduled to arrive in MEL on Monday 5/6/23. Not aware if it will fly the extra few hours on the way for Project Sunrise research.

[Rowan McKeever]

Also from another forum, consensus seems to be that the wing repainting is a 'warranty' job which can only be / is only being done under contract to Boeing at two facilities worldwide and, thus, that the cost of positioning each aircraft in/out of those facilities would be borne by Boeing.

[Greg Hyde]

Thanks Rowan, read same

[James Smith]

According to Flightaware VH-ZNM is scheduled to leave PAE for MEL on delivery as QF7879 at 9:30 MEL time this morning. Flight time is 19 hours 20 minutes, so another PS research flight.

[Dennis McLean]

Flight Aware now shows arrival at 01.36am Monday

[Peter C]

Having departed nearly 2 hours early, Qantas still shows arrival of VH-ZNM as 05:01 AEST, so likely will follow a path similar to VH-ZNL, as suggested by James.

FlightAware's timing seems to be based on Origin/Destination distances & elapsed time, which may adjust if/as the flight initially bypasses Melbourne.

[James Smith]

VH-ZNM arrived in MEL at 5:33 AEST this morning after a 19 hour 25 minute delivery flight. The track flown from the NSW/Victoria border was west towards PER and a u-turn over the Great Australian Bight back towards MEL. But unlike ZNL's delivery flight, ZNM overflew MEL and turned left up into NSW again followed by a couple of further left turns back to MEL.

[Tristan S]

ZNM's Delivery Flight Takeoff From PAE To MEL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4DIV0x8s1M

[Greg Hyde]

VH-ZNM arrived in MEL at 5:33 AEST this morning after a 19 hour 25 minute delivery flight. The track flown from the NSW/Victoria border was west towards PER and a u-turn over the Great Australian Bight back towards MEL. But unlike ZNL's delivery flight, ZNM overflew MEL and turned left up into NSW again followed by a couple of further left turns back to MEL.

13th B787 for QF

Her name should be "Mateship" can anyone confirm ?

[Bob C]

Yes it is Greg ; confirmation in a photo on the Melbourne Airport Spotters Group.

[Tristan S]

ZNN on her recent test flight, if you look closely you can see she has the RAT deployed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWf0WOVc_kk

[Adrian B]

ZNN on her recent test flight, if you look closely you can see she has the RAT deployed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWf0WOVc_kk

I can see the conspiracy theorists jumping up and down:

"New Qantas plane broken, needs propeller engine to fly" :eek:

[Greg Hyde]

Yes it is Greg ; confirmation in a photo on the Melbourne Airport Spotters Group.

Thanks Bob, Wasn't sure how much "Mateship" was still at QF

[Peter C]

VH-ZNM has commenced revenue service, operating QF93 Melbourne to Los Angeles.

[James Smith]

VH-ZND is scheduled to depart PUS this morning as QF6020 to arrive this evening in SYD for preparation to operate the inaugural QF3 to AKL and JFK tomorrow morning.

[Rowan McKeever]

ZNL currently taxiing for 34R departure as QF3 to AKL and JFK.

[Glenn R]

Is it correct that QF3 can only refuel in AKL?
And cannot pick up passengers?

[MarkR]

Is it correct that QF3 can only refuel in AKL?
And cannot pick up passengers?

Qantas can and do sell seats AKL-JFK, the open skies agreement allows Aussie airlines to operate ex NZ just as it allows NZ to fly from Australia

[Adrian B]

Is the return flight QF4?

[Michael Mak]

Is the return flight QF4?

Yes it is

[Dennis McLean]

I see ZNL is off to SCL and ZND to JFK today.

[Michael Mak]

Anyone knows which 789 will do the first QF5 SYD-PER-FCO flight for this season?

[Brenden S]

I think it was ZNC

[James Smith]

Yes, ZNC confirmed, Michael.

[C Patters]

ZNN must be close to being delivered given it was in the paint hanger a few weeks ago

[James Smith]

From another forum, the delivery date for ZNN is scheduled for 28/6/23, which I presume is ex PAE, arriving into MEL? on the morning of 30/6/23.

[Michael Mak]

Thanks guys!

VH-ZNM should be operating QF8 DFW-SYD and arriving tomorrow morning (23/6). ZNC which operated SYD-DFW is now in air QF22 DFW-MEL. It will be ZNM’s first visit to Sydney.

[Peter C]

From another forum, the delivery date for ZNN is scheduled for 28/6/23, which I presume is ex PAE, arriving into MEL? on the morning of 30/6/23.

Conflicting info ... Under a pic of fully painted ZNN (http://paineairport.com/images/kpae20672w.png), Matt Cawby on 21 June in Paine Field Blog stated "ZB282 Qantas 787-9 VH-ZNN and ZE235 Turkish Airlines 787-9 TC-LLR were moved out of the 40-21 last night, the horizontal stabilizer fitting NOE rework is complete. VH-ZNN is scheduled for a delivery flight on June 24."

[Peter C]

Conflicting info ... Under a pic of fully painted ZNN (http://paineairport.com/images/kpae20672w.png), Matt Cawby on 21 June in Paine Field Blog stated "ZB282 Qantas 787-9 VH-ZNN and ZE235 Turkish Airlines 787-9 TC-LLR were moved out of the 40-21 last night, the horizontal stabilizer fitting NOE rework is complete. VH-ZNN is scheduled for a delivery flight on June 24."

On reflection, since ZNN is yet to do a C flight, this is probably the flight on 24th, which if acceptable would make a 28th delivery possible.

[MarkR]

ZNC operating QF9 ex Per to LHR diverted into Singapore overnight

[Bob C]

Due to a medical emergency.

[Greg Hyde]

On reflection, since ZNN is yet to do a C flight, this is probably the flight on 24th, which if acceptable would make a 28th delivery possible.

ZNN did a 01:01 test flight yesterday, probably the C flight after paint

[Peter C]

ZNN did a 01:01 test flight yesterday, probably the C flight after paint

Flight path/duration looks more like an FCF. Qantas C1s with the B789 have always included at least one touch & go at MWH. Time will tell.

[Brenden S]

ZNN painted in standard QF livery

[MarkR]

On reflection, since ZNN is yet to do a C flight, this is probably the flight on 24th, which if acceptable would make a 28th delivery possible.

Qantas said today it’s due mid July now

[James Smith]

The delivery delay of ZNN will probably see QANTAS continue flying an A380, usually OQL, on QF93/94 MEL-LAX-MEL every second day. They started this from 15/6/23 (ex LAX) to free up a 789 to operate QF5/6 from 17/6/23.

[James Smith]

ZNN has performed another test flight on 28/6/23 to MWH and return of 2 hours 33 minutes there and 43 minutes back to PAE.

[Peter C]

ZNN has performed another test flight on 28/6/23 to MWH and return of 2 hours 33 minutes there and 43 minutes back to PAE.

Followed by a 36 minutes C2 flight on 29/6/23 [PST] PAE to PAE.

[Peter C]

Followed by a 36 minutes C2 flight on 29/6/23 [PST] PAE to PAE.

Followed by a 22 minute two circuit C3 flight on 30/6/23 [PST]

[Peter C]

The delivery delay of ZNN will probably see QANTAS continue flying an A380, usually OQL, on QF93/94 MEL-LAX-MEL every second day. They started this from 15/6/23 (ex LAX) to free up a 789 to operate QF5/6 from 17/6/23.

Seemingly not, OQL is heading back to Los Angeles as an extra MEL-LAX flight (QF95), and there don't seem to be any other changes to the upcoming B789 schedule. Based on my previous post, they seem to be working to get ZNN here as soon as possible.

[Greg Hyde]

ZNN did another test flight yesterday of 15 min

KPAE Blog is reporting a 13/07 delivery

If it keeps up these test flights, it will be out of hours before it arrives

[Greg Hyde]

Close up of nose with name taped from Jen Schuld

https://twitter.com/JenSchuld/status/1674173730442948610

[James Smith]

RAT deployed again on ZNN when landing on today's ninth test flight.

[Greg Hyde]

ZNN has had its tenth flight of 00:26 yesterday.

Could this me a lemon in the making ?

[Peter C]

Based on FlightAware flight profiles, seems to be a final approach problem. 30th June & 3 July flights max altitude 5000', first flight on 5th 2500' & second 2000', all a simple up down circuit.

[MarkR]

Based on FlightAware flight profiles, seems to be a final approach problem. 30th June & 3 July flights max altitude 5000', first flight on 5th 2500' & second 2000', all a simple up down circuit.

Given Qantas knew of the delayed delivery some time ago I suspect it’s not a lemon but a well known issue, likely the horizontal stabiliser fault, and ZNN is one of the first with the fix hence the extended testing. I note TC-LLR is following similar timeframes.

[Greg Hyde]

Given Qantas knew of the delayed delivery some time ago I suspect it’s not a lemon but a well known issue, likely the horizontal stabiliser fault, and ZNN is one of the first with the fix hence the extended testing. I note TC-LLR is following similar timeframes.

Thanks Mark,

I knew someone would rise to the bait and give the answer

[Jim M]

Any word on the delivery of ZNN as yet??

[MarkR]

Any word on the delivery of ZNN as yet??

July 13 is its scheduled delivery flight

[Jim M]

July 13 is its scheduled delivery flight
Thanks Mark. Let's hope it is still on schedule.

[Greg Hyde]

From Paine Field Blog

Delivery flights have been delayed on ZB282 Qantas 787 line 1051 and ZE235 Turkish 787 line 1113 until OML rework is completed later this week.

[Peter C]

From Paine Field Blog

Delivery flights have been delayed on ZB282 Qantas 787 line 1051 and ZE235 Turkish 787 line 1113 until OML rework is completed later this week.

More from Paine Field Blog ...

"What is OML rework? Judging by work being done on the flightline it is near the sections 44 and 46 join, rework takes about five days and eight 787 airplanes are affected: lines 1039, 1051, 1081, 1093, 1107, 1113, 1119, and 1124. OML rework began on July 5 and is scheduled to be completed by August 18."

That's seven B787-9s & one B787-10.

[C Patters]

Any updates on the delivery date for ZNN?

[Greg Hyde]

Qantas' Newest Boeing 787 Flies Over Antarctica Between Santiago & Sydney

Passengers on Qantas' direct service between Santiago, Chile, and Sydney, Australia, took the far southern route on July 14th, flying over the coast of Antarctica. More commonly, the service would travel across the Southern Pacific Ocean; however, due to solid headwinds on its usual pass, the aircraft flew to 74.17°S instead of the usual 70°.

Qantas (QF) operates a four-weekly service between Santiago's Arturo Merino Benítez International Airport (SCL) and Sydney Kingsford Smith International Airport (SYD), which usually has a flight time of around 14 hours. As noted above, the flight would usually fly across the southern parts of the Pacific Ocean, however in this instance, with solid headwinds expected in that part of the ocean, the decision was made to fly further south, otherwise flying with strong headwinds would have increased the scheduled flight time and fuel burn.

Full story

https://simpleflying.com/qantas-boeing-787-flies-over-antarctica/

[James Smith]

The delivery flight of B789 VH-ZNN is scheduled on Flightaware to depart at approximately 14:00 EST today flying PAE to MEL nonstop as QF7879. The flight time is 16:01, so it looks as though it won't be flying any Project Sunrise additional miles. Estimated arrival time in MEL is 6:01 tomorrow (Sunday) morning. Great news for QANTAS.

[Tristan S]

The delivery flight of B789 VH-ZNN is scheduled on Flightaware to depart at approximately 14:00 EST today flying PAE to MEL nonstop as QF7879. The flight time is 16:01, so it looks as though it won't be flying any Project Sunrise additional miles. Estimated arrival time in MEL is 6:01 tomorrow (Sunday) morning. Great news for QANTAS.

From another forum:
Aircraft has the lightest fuel load of the PAE-MEL 787 flights so far and is going to be flying with its trim not in the optimal fuel burn zone.

More testing perhaps.

[Peter C]

The delivery flight of B789 VH-ZNN is scheduled on Flightaware to depart at approximately 14:00 EST today flying PAE to MEL nonstop as QF7879.

Qantas Flight Status had original ETD as 16:30 PDT and shows that the eventual push back was at 22:53 PDT. Qantas also has revised time into Melbourne as 08:40 AEST. Just appeared on FR24 at 16:09 AEST.

[Kent Broadhead]

Qantas Flight Status had original ETD as 16:30 PDT and shows that the eventual push back was at 22:53 PDT. Qantas also has revised time into Melbourne as 08:40 AEST. Just appeared on FR24 at 16:09 AEDT.

Rolling for takeoff now

[C Patters]

Do we know ZNN’s name?

[Adrian B]

Do we know ZNN’s name?

Maaaaaaaate

[MarkR]

Maaaaaaaate

Not “Tardy”

[Greg Hyde]

ZNN arrived in Melbourne at 08:14 this morning

[Jim M]

Do we know ZNN’s name?

ZNN is named "Snowy River"

[C Patters]

Thanks Jim!

[Greg Hyde]

Thanks Jim, Nice name

[Greg Hyde]

ZNN has commenced service, on to Perth & London (I expect) as QF9

[Michael Mak]

ZNN is operating QF8 DFW-SYD and will arrive at 0615 on Sunday August 6th, it will be here inaugural visit to YSSY.

[C Patters]

Does anyone know what is wrong with ZNH?

[Stirling D]

Does anyone know what is wrong with ZNH?

Ramp rash

[C Patters]

Thanks! Hopefully she returns to service soon 🙏🏻

[C Patters]

Does anyone have an update on ZNH?

[James Smith]

ZNH returned to service yesterday and is operating QF7 MEL-PER-LHR. Currently flying over Kuwait.

[Jim M]

ZNM and ZNA are currently both operating LAX - MEL as QF300 and QF302 respectively They departed LAX about 15 minutes apart.
Anyone know what these flights are? Not the usual flight numbers obviously...

[MarkR]

Would not be surprised if it’s the annual religious charters.

[Jim M]

ZNA is currently enroute SYD-HKG as QF187.
It departed around 2210 on Thursday 5 October. Does anyone know if this a new flight, or a one off?
I believe the 380 is returning to the Sydney-Hong Kong service soon, but this flight is an unusual time.
Thanks in advance.

[James Smith]

Hi Jim, QF187 left from gate 24 at the SYD international terminal last night. There is no QF188 or 186 departing from HKG on Flightaware as yet, today and ZNA is still there. The current QF flight numbers to and from HKG are QF127/128. When the second daily flight was operating to HKG prior to COVID the flight numbers used were QF117/118.
The A380 is not scheduled on QF127/128 until 29/10/23 when it will be flying five days per week building up to daily by 1/1/24. I read where it will be operated by a un-refurbished A380, which means OQL. I don't know why they can't get the refurbishment done at DRS, if not AUH.
Anyway, that is beside the point. If ZNA doesn't fly somewhere tonight or tomorrow I suggest it is having maintenance in HKG and a scheduled passenger service was used to get it there.

[MarkR]

Todays 767 freight run was cancelled which may or may not be related

[Dennis McLean]

I just had a quick look at the A.380's. There are 6 in service now only, with J in AUH since 5-7-23, over 3 months presume maintenance ?, H in PUS for painting, A still in AUH since 18-11-22 and C in AUH since 21-6-21.
B on the way LHR/SIN, K on the way SIN/LHR, D in SYD from SIN today, G in LAX from SYD local time 08/10/23, I in Syd from SIN today, L in SYD from LAX today.

[Jim M]

Interesting that ZNL operated QF81 from SYD to SIN today. It is about to operate QF36 from SIN to MEL. Can't be sure, but probably something to do with the Finnair 333 operating the first SIN -SYD flight tonight.

[James Smith]

The first Finnair A333, OH-LTR operating QF292, the replacement flight number for QF82, has arrived in SYD this morning.

Jim, B789 ZNL has operated QF36 (ex QF81 Sunday) and A380 OQL QF38 (ex QF81 Saturday) both SIN-MEL this morning. OQL will ferry to SYD later today and possibly commence operating QF127/128 tomorrow with an A380 scheduled on the HKG run for most of the NW season until late February, 2024.

[Jim M]

Just out of curiosity, can anyone help with a bit of information please?
From the records I've seen, it looks as though the three newest 787s, ZNL, ZNM and ZNN have so far not done a QF63/64 rotation from SYD to JNB. They seem to have been on all other routes at some stage, but not JNB. Is there any reason or just a coincidence?
Thanks in advance

[Brenden S]

Probably due to the sequence of flying. It will change once one goes in for maintenance. We seem to miss ZND and ZNJ here in Perth on the 9/10 rotation and then we get them for a few weeks.

[Jim M]

Probably due to the sequence of flying. It will change once one goes in for maintenance. We seem to miss ZND and ZNJ here in Perth on the 9/10 rotation and then we get them for a few weeks.

Brenden, I understand what you are saying but I don't believe that it is it. ZNL has been here since the end of April this year, and ZNM and ZNN since June and July respectively. There has been 787s in maintenance over the past few months including wing repaints and ZNC is currently in HKG. ZNA and ZNB have already been and all three spent several weeks in HKG. If you watch the 787 rotations they all tend to do stints on all routes and this fits with your comments about ZND and ZNJ.
However, the three newest have not done a JNB rotation at all from what I can see. There must be a reason for it.

[James Smith]

Yes confirmed. I have looked through all the aircraft operating QF63 since April, 2023 and ZNL, ZNM and ZNN have not flown to JNB at all. It is a different story for QF27 to SCL, however which has similar flight times.

Is this an ETOPS issue with an aircraft having to have a certain number of hours before it can fly the really long overwater routes? I can't find any mention of this as ETOPS is certified mainly for a specific aircraft types.

[Brenden S]

It shouldn't be ETOPS issue, as they have all flown to LHR ex Perth and should have all flown to SCL now too. Perhaps it is a simple aircraft rotation.

[Rowan McKeever]

I can't see that it's an ETOPS issue given all three in question have operated SCL. The only possible regulatory/compliance issue would be for polar operations as I don't think (may be wrong though) QF27/28 go that far south, whereas QF63/64 routinely do - but why only those three aircraft would be unable to operate polar is beyond me unless QF have not installed some of the equipment...

[Jim M]

I don't think it's anything to do with polar operations either because ZNM I know for sure was just about over the ice once or twice on the way back from SCL. This was way further south than I've ever seen QF63 or 64.
It's just interesting that the three of these have done everything except JNB. Got to be a reason.

[Jim M]

In relation to my previous posts on this topic, it seems that ZNL is operating QF63 to JNB today. I believe this will be the first visit to JNB by one the three newest 787s in the fleet.
There is still no apparent reason why the three newest haven't done a 63/64 up until today. Perhaps they will start.

[Michael Mak]

ZNN is operating QF63 to JNB today, I believe this is the first time it operates to JNB. Something must have changed to see L/M/N on JNB run.

[Jim M]

ZNN is operating QF63 to JNB today, I believe this is the first time it operates to JNB. Something must have changed to see L/M/N on JNB run.
Agreed Michael. ZNL has operated it twice now and ZNN on its first trip today on the QF63. ZNL is currently operating QF341 from SYD to LAS for the first of the NRL charters. I believe another departs BNE on Thursday.

[Michael Mak]

ZNM is operating today's QF63 to JNB, this is her first visit to JNB. All 789s have now operated to JNB.

[Alex Ch]

Incident: Qantas B789 over Pacific on Apr 14th 2024, electrical problem
By Simon Hradecky, created Tuesday, Apr 16th 2024 15:46Z, last updated Tuesday, Apr 16th 2024 15:46Z

A Qantas Boeing 787-9, registration VH-ZNH performing flight QF-76 (dep Apr 13th) from Vancouver,BC (Canada) to Sydney,NS (Australia), was enroute at FL330 over the Pacific Ocean about 1550nm southwest of Honolulu,HI (USA) when the crew decided to turn around and divert to Honolulu. The crew advised ATC they did have a minor technical problem, accepted an ILS approach to runway 04R at first but subsequently requested runway 08L due to winds, on final approach to Honolulu's runway 08L the crew advised tower, they would have their flaps fully down after landing due to a technical fault. The aircraft landed safely on runway 08L about 3:05 hours after turning around.

A passenger reported the crew announced they had some electrical/generator issue. After being kept at the airport for about 9 hours the onward flight was cancelled.

The aircraft is still on the ground in Honolulu about 48 hours after landing.

https://www.avherald.com/h?article=5177dbcb&opt=0