QF new livery

[Jack B]

How is Qantas approaching repainting the fleet into the new livery?

Still, only 1 767, 1 747 have been repainted, and no A330-300's

I know that the 737's are being repainted

Will Qantas bother with any more?

It makes sense to paint all the A330's, but all of the -300's still have the old blue seat fabrics!

What about the 747's/767's? will they stay as they are?

I know that it costs a lot to paint a plane, and in these tough times especially.

[Raymond Rowe]

They will be painted as they go thru overhauls.The A330-300 are reasonably new so they will not be painted for a long time.

[Robert Zweck]

These things take time...only a few months ago I saw the B767 VH-OGQ? which still had its very old " The Australian Airline " titles instead of "The Spirit of Australia "

[Rich W]

Still heaps of old United livery around too. It must have been nearly 2 years since they introduced with a new white and blue colours?

However, its not the only thing that United take ages to upgrade...

[Andrew McLaughlin]

... United ... It must have been nearly 2 years since they introduced with a new white and blue colours?

Actually, more than four years ago - They released pics of their first 777 in the new colours in late 2004!

[Ash W]

How is Qantas approaching repainting the fleet into the new livery?

Still, only 1 767, 1 747 have been repainted, and no A330-300's

I know that the 737's are being repainted

Will Qantas bother with any more?

It makes sense to paint all the A330's, but all of the -300's still have the old blue seat fabrics!

What about the 747's/767's? will they stay as they are?

I know that it costs a lot to paint a plane, and in these tough times especially.

The re-paint is a minor change which will happen when the aircraft are ready to be repainted. There is no point doing a repaint for such a minor change. Most people would hardly notice the difference.

[Jack B]

I agree.

I think it would make sense to leave the 767's and 747's as they are

Obviously, the A330's and 737-800's make sense to paint in time

[D Chan]

might take 10 or so years to complete it all! - because you've got the Dash 8s and Qantaslink a/c as well
speaking of liveries it would be nice if we could go 'retro' on 1 or 2 a/c in the fleet

[Bernie P]

Are't there already a few of these (Q400 and the like) already done??

[Todd Milton]

Bernie,
The newer Q400's are done, and QOH is aswell as it is in the special Breast Cancer Pink livery. VH-QOI, -QOJ, -QOK, -QOM, -QON are all in the new QantasLink Livery. I think -TQY is still the only older Dash 8 to be in the new livery.

[Todd Milton]

VH-TJO 'Lorikeet' is the most recent repaint as of late last week, has been flying to Canberra for many days since! Looks very nice.

[Paul C.]

And another 737-400 ZK-JTR (ex VH-TJN) has been repainted or converted into the new livery. I flew on VH-TJN on 26.3.2007 from Melbourne to Adelaide just 3 days before it was removed from the Australian register.

The new livery is on

The 3 A380's
2 767's
6 A330-200's
5 737-800's
2 737-400's
1 747-400
Several Dash 8's
A few 717's

[Brandon Giacomin]

Here is a list of all the aircrafts in the new QF livery.
B744 VH-OEB
A388 VH-OQA
A388 VH-OQB
A388 VH-OQC
B763 VH-OGD
B763 VH-OGP
A332 VH-EBG
A332 VH-EBH
A332 VH-EBI
A332 VH-EBJ
A332 VH-EBK
A332 VH-EBL
B738 VH-VZA
B738 VH-VZB
B738 VH-VZC
B738 VH-VZD
B738 VH-VZE
B734 ZK-JTP
B734 ZK-JTQ
B734 ZK-JTR
B734 VH-TJO
DH8 VH-TQY
DH8 VH-QOH
DH8 VH-QOI
DH8 VH-QOJ
DH8 VH-QOK
DH8 VH-QOM
DH8 VH-QON
DH8 VH-QOP
DH8 VH-QOR
DH8 VH-QOS
B712 VH-NXN
B712 VH-NXO
B712 VH-NXQ

34 in total

[Fred C]

Expect to see VH-OGT and VH-OJS in the new colours in early September.

[Brad Myer]

Excellent!

Also the 3x new B73Hs for Jetconnect arrive in SEP/OCT/NOV they will also be in the new livery.

[Oliver Gigacz]

Add VH-OQD A380 as it will arrive in Australian within hours.

[Stefan Perkas]

Morning all,

VH-VXA reported in Adelaide this morning wearing the New Colours.

[Sarah C]

Expect to see VH-OGT and VH-OJS in the new colours in early September.

Due in tomorrow evening from HKG with the new livery. Any spotters out on Sunday might spot them.

[Jack B]

I personally don't see why Qantas are still painting 767's in the new livery when the entire A330-300 fleet are in the old livery. Even though -OGS and -OGT are some of the younger 767's and won't be sent out to the knackers yard just yet, it seems logical to me to first paint the aircraft that will be around longest (A333, 744ER, 738)

[Mike W]

I personally don't see why Qantas are still painting 767's in the new livery when the entire A330-300 fleet are in the old livery.

Mate, to paint, first you must need to paint.

[Anthony J]

Unfortunately the number of aircraft in the new livery will reduce by one next week.

[Jack B]

Mate, to paint, first you must need to paint.

thats true,

I also suppose the fact the livery change is subtle is also a factor

I just find it strange to keep painting 763's

that said, are -OGS and -OGT the ratty old "The Australian Airline" 767's?

[Jack B]

Unfortunately the number of aircraft in the new livery will reduce by one next week.

-OGD is being retired?

[Sarah C]

thats true,

that said, are -OGS and -OGT the ratty old "The Australian Airline" 767's?

OJS is getting a repaint (Rolls Royce 744)

OGP is the other one with the new livery. OGD was the first to get the new livery but is retiring next week. OGS still has the old "The Australian Airline" but OGT had the original "The Spirit of Australia" on it. OGS and OGT are certainly not old - they rolled off the delivery line in 1997, so 12 years old is young.

[Anthony J]

-OGD is being retired?
Yes :(

[Marty H]

OGA still flying???

[Jamie D]

have they been sold? or are they just being parked.

[Sarah C]

have they been sold? or are they just being parked.

Going to Victorville, assume they are being parked until a buyer is found.

[Lee G]

Last flight for OED is QF107 tommorrow SYD-LAX-JFK-LAX then onto pasture ....

Last flight for OGD is at 2pm on 16Sep direct to pasture ......

For the Kiwis - ZK-JNN last flight at 5am on 14Sep ......

Say good bye for maybe the last time for these veterans ...:(

[David Wilkie]

OGA still flying???

OGA was in Adelaide today

[Tom PER]

OGD was advertised with having 73443 hrs and 25893 cycles.

It's well behind OGA-OGC on airframe hours but well ahead of them on cycles.

For those interested OED was 79236 hrs/9572 cycles.

[Michael Atkin]

Saw OJS roll in tonight, looking very shiny in her new livery.

[Jason H]

Last flight for OED is QF107 tommorrow SYD-LAX-JFK-LAX

Will it operate back home as the 108 and then cease operations? You make it sound as if the last flight will be the 107/108 to LAX only. If so, what will operate the return 108 ex LAX?

[Sarah C]

Will it operate back home as the 108 and then cease operations? You make it sound as if the last flight will be the 107/108 to LAX only. If so, what will operate the return 108 ex LAX?

It will operate the 107/108 to JFK and will return to LAX. The 108 passengers will move to another aircraft. The flight to BNE for the night has been cancelled.

[Ash W]

Due in tomorrow evening from HKG with the new livery. Any spotters out on Sunday might spot them.

Saw -OGT in Hong Kong yesterday (12/9) morning.

[Ash W]

Jack I think what Mike is trying to say is Qantas are not painting the aircraft for the hell of it, they are only painting them because they need it. The A330's are a tad newer and are not in need of a repaint, so won't be done unit they are ready.

It isn't like the Qantas change is a massive one, or a complete make over of the airline. In that case you might see wholesale repainting of the fleet.

[Sarah C]

Agree with Ash - look at Delta and United, how long is it taking to repaint thier fleet? They are not repainting aircraft unless they are due, even if it will take a long time.

[Chris Fox]

noted VXA "Broome" in Karratha tonight looking great in her shiny new livery...

[Brenden S]

VXA was in and out of Perth today, what a shame the wx was crap. As for the repainting of the fleet, its only when the paint is due to expire on the aircraft as per the Qantas system of maintenance.

[Joseph Saragozza.]

dose VXA have her eyebrows plugged/painted over or have they kept them?

[Sarah C]

[QUOTE=Joseph Saragozza.;34633]dose VXA have her eyebrows plugged/painted over or have they kept them?[/QUOTEt

They have kept them.

[Peter Agatsiotis]

I saw VH-OGP in new scheme last Wed; couldn't get a good photo as I hadn't expected it and wasn't ready.

[Sarah C]

I saw VH-OGP in new scheme last Wed; couldn't get a good photo as I hadn't expected it and wasn't ready.

It has been flying around with the new scheme since April. A photo taken by board member Seth:

http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6558103&nseq=9

[Anthony J]

VH-OJS is on her way to Hong Kong as QFA127.

[Steve S... 2]

I think they plucked VXA's eyebrows...

Sorry! :)

[Peter Agatsiotis]

Thanks Sarah; I did note that from previous posts just that I don't normally take much notice of the QF 767's. OGP just happened to taxi past the mound whilst I was talking to someone.

[Anthony J]

VH-OJS looks quite impressive, both her and VH-OEB were together in Sydney today.

[Dan Hammond]

Great looking bird Anthony, thanks for sharing

[Joseph Saragozza.]

is there a reason why the engine cowls are gray not white?

[Brian Wilkes]

is there a reason why the engine cowls are gray not white?

Qantas changed the Rollers to gray due to the amount of oil and dirt that was getting on the cowlings which looked bad. It was supposed to be only an experiment!

[matthew mcdonald]

Wow AJ I have no idea how you got that sort of light on the aircraft. Me, Gareth and Bernie were at the mound and the photos at that time of morning were turning out almost pitch black. Good photo.

[Tom PER]

The larger RR logos look good also.

[Lee G]

Silly question, but is OJS the reason why everyone was out at the mound this morning?

[Oliver Gigacz]

Has anyone got a shot of VQA?

[Anthony J]

Thanks Matthew!

VH-OJS arrives back in Sydney as QFA0064 today, then heads back to Jo'burg as QFA0063 tomorrow.

[Tom PER]

Just noticed that -OEB and -OJS are both missing the gold stripe which runs diagonal from the top of the tail downwards.

[Brenden S]

None of the aircraft have the gold stripe (new livery painted ones)

[Anthony J]

Another angle of VH-OJS
http://images3.jetphotos.net/img/2/9/7/9/50585_1253081979_tb.jpg (http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6671170)

[Erik H. Bakke]

Another subtle difference between the old and new liveries, then.
I didn't realize until it was pointed out now.

[Ash W]

I think you will find the gold stripe has been 'missing' for quite some time, not just the latest version of livery.

[Stefan Perkas]

Afternoon all,

Sorry to bring this topic back up,

VH-VXD is now in the new Colours. It was in Adelaide this morning operating the Darwin flight

[Dan Hammond]

Noted VH-OJU 747-438 at the Qantas jet base in SYD today in the new colours

[Brian Wilkes]

Lets hope they dont go a slap stickers on it like the others!
It looked good!

[Brad Myer]

B73H VH-VXP now has the new livery as well.

[Oliver Gigacz]

So total list now is 49 (With two more to come in the next three weeks). So by the end of 2009 over 50.

VH-OQA
VH-OQB
VH-OQC
VH-OQD
VH-OJS
VH-OJU
VH-OEB
VH-OGP
VH-OGT
VH-EBG
VH-EBH
VH-EBI
VH-EBJ
VH-EBK
VH-EBL
VH-EBM
VH-TJO
VH-VXA
VH-VXD
VH-VXP
VH-VZA
VH-VZB
VH-VZC
VH-VZD
VH-VZE
VH-NXN
VH-NXO
VH-NXQ
VH-TQY
VH-QOH
VH-QOI
VH-QOJ
VH-QOK
VH-QOL
VH-QOM
VH-QON
VH-QOO
VH-QOP
VH-QOQ
VH-QOR
VH-QOS
VH-QOT
VH-QOU
ZK-JTP
ZK-JTQ
ZK-JTR
ZK-ZQA
ZK-ZQB
ZK-ZQC

[Zac M]

VXP really needed the repaint, you could still see where the 75th Anniversary decals were when I saw it in September.

[Jamie D]

you can take vh-ebk off the list Oliver, it appears she is in her silver suit with several JQ acars entries over the last few days

[Joseph Saragozza.]

i apoligise in advance if i have too much eye for detail, but it just seem strange that how some of the QF planes that are being repainted are being different each time.
i am mainly talking about the 738 and the 744.

VH-VXA hasn't got her 'eyebrows' plucked
but VH-VXP dose, even tho they were done a while ago tho.
wouldn't it make sense for the rest of the fleet look similar in some way.

and for the 744 VH-OJS and VH-OEB have the names by the flight deck windows on both sides were as VH-OJU only has it on the LHS of the aircraft

is there a reason for these to be like this?

[Karl M]

VH-VXA hasn't got her 'eyebrows' plucked
but VH-VXP dose, even tho they were done a while ago tho.

From memory the first few of the 738's came with the eyebrow windows. I belive it was because they were from the original order from American Airlines.


If I remember correctly, the first few were delived with the windows, as they were from the original order from American Airlines. The rest were ordered without as boeing phased out the windows.


wouldn't it make sense for the rest of the fleet look similar in some way.



General public dont care or would not notice the differance, So why waste money removing them.

[Gerald A]

We have had this same old boring livery with very little change at all, for the past 15 or 20 years or more, its time for a REAL CHANGE Qantas.

[Andrew M]

A real change is coming and it continues to come.

A big star on the tail and the word Jet next to it

[Gerald A]

Andrew

Jetstar is not Qantas, in name.

The thread is about that old boring red and white livery, that Qantas has had for approx 20 years or more, with no difference at all, just a bigger white kangaroo on the tail, people call that change, god help us.

[Andrew P]

Same as SQ, why change a winning formaula?

So Maccas should get rid of the golden arches, IBM its big blue, on this logic?

[Jack B]

American Airlines have had the same livery since 1968

As said, the Qantas livery and logo is recognised globally. It still looks modern, still is attractive, why change it?

[Bernie P]

... the Qantas livery and logo is recognised globally.... still is attractive...

I totally agree, and whilst I find the recent revision of the livery, quite tasteful, the 'hodge podge' of different previous titles etc, not to mention how some of the tails and titles are quite faded (why is it that RED has a tendancy to fade quicker than others?) has potential to make the brand a little dull!

But hey, at least they are clean, when compared to Air France!

[Ryan K]

Andrew

Jetstar is not Qantas, in name.

The thread is about that old boring red and white livery, that Qantas has had for approx 20 years or more, with no difference at all, just a bigger white kangaroo on the tail, people call that change, god help us.

Gerald, I think that Qantas has one of the most recognisable logos in the world. Why would they want to change it for change sake? There's nothing like seeing that big kangaroo on the a red tail, especially when overseas. Long live the roo!

[Tom PER]

-OJU has already got a mis-matched QF logo on the no.3 engine.

-OEB is still sporting it's mis-aligned QF logo on the no.4 engine also.

[Sarah C]

VH-OGQ has just touched down, complete with new livery :)

[Dan Hammond]

Thanks for the info Sarah, i take it that brings the total of the 763 active fleet to 3 in the revised colours?

[NickN]

I'd love to see the wings back on the kangaroo.... or at least a retro scheme on one or two aircraft like alot of other carriers have done.

[Lee G]

Number 4 ( one of the 767's) is going up to Singapore for a repaint very shortly, possibly tommorrow - not sure which one it is.

[Fred C]

VH-OGQ arrived last night about 1930 with a fresh paint job. Sitting at the jet base now, but out of view.:)

[Lee G]

Believe it is ops on the SYD MEL BNE runs today so you may see it.

[Brandon Giacomin]

Thanks for the info Sarah, i take it that brings the total of the 763 active fleet to 3 in the revised colours?

Yes, OGP, OGT & OGQ

[NickN]

-OGD was done but left the fleet not long after.

[Adam W]

OGS ferried to Singapore this morning. I think this is the only 767 left with the old "The Australian Airline" titles on it.

[Adam W]

Has anyone seen VXB (Yananyi Dreaming) lately? I haven't seen it for a while. Last time I saw it it was looking rather faded, could it be off somewhere getting a paint job?

[Stuart Trevena]

Hi All,

I was told by some QF Maint. Staff earlier in the week that she is in Melb Maint Base undergoing a Heavy / Major Maintenance.

You wont see her for a while

Stuart

[Jack B]

The 767's must be expected to be in the fleet for quite some time yet, seeing as they seem to be the most regularly repainted aircraft

[NickN]

Considering the 787 delays then yes they will be in the fleet for quite some time yet.

[Karl M]

Hi All,

I was told by some QF Maint. Staff earlier in the week that she is in Melb Maint Base undergoing a Heavy / Major Maintenance.

You wont see her for a while

Stuart

Yes confirm she is at QF Maint base in MEL. Was parked out front yesterday.

[Oliver Gigacz]

I was at MEL today. She was not outside at around 9:30. VH-EBL was though.

[Brad Myer]

Hi,

Anyone got an update on any future repaints for the fleet?

Thanks

[Tim Bowrey]

I think OGS will be next according to my trusty side-kick.

[Zac M]

Has anyone seen VXB (Yananyi Dreaming) lately? I haven't seen it for a while. Last time I saw it it was looking rather faded, could it be off somewhere getting a paint job?
VXB is back from it's maintenance. Was in Canberra last night, not sure if it has the new roo but with the spotters weekend on I am sure someone would have noticed if it did (if it's been to Sydney that is;))

[Michael Atkin]

not sure if it has the new roo but with the spotters weekend on I am sure someone would have noticed if it did (if it's been to Sydney that is)
Saw it land and depart Sydney this morning, still with the old roo.

[Chris Fox]

It sure gets around, was in Karratha today (twice!) and can confirm has the od roo!

[Michael Atkin]

Saw OGS at the Intl terminal this afternoon wearing the revised livery.

[J Brown]

Is -TJI in the new livery? She returned from ST Aero at Seletar last week.

[Adam W]

TJI was in Perth today, still wearing the old livery.

[Nadia B-J]

Hi there,

I can't stand the new livery.

The tail of aircraft (new kanagaroo) is totally out of proportion and new font is already dated.... blah!!

It's rubbish.....

I have come from a graphic design background and am dumb founded that QF have paid so much money for this "update", what a waste on all levels, why bother??? :confused:

What they had as a new livery circa 1985 (743 & 762 introductions) was striking, timeless, classic & elegant.

If they wanted a new fresh look, do a total new concept on the flying kanagroo like before.

As far as I'm concerned it's a disgrace!

There....I've finally got this off my chest after 2 years frustration :D
Thanks in advance for your understanding.

:eek:

[Brian Wilkes]

Then give Qantas a call and or send them a letter letting them know of your feelings, I'm sure they will give damn.

[Nadia B-J]

Even if I did, it would make no difference to them.
They wouldn't give a continental.

I like the fact I can raise my feelings in a forum like this as others do about lots of other topics :)

[Brian Wilkes]

And so you have.

[Lee G]

Nadia,

They needed the new roo because of the composite horizontal stabiliser on the 380's was unable to have the necessary paintwork applied to it. The legs of the roo and proportions could not work on the 380's.

I guess that if you're going to change your logo, go the whole hog and refresh the fonts and look as well as it won't cost extra.

[D Chan]

different taste for different people.
At first I didn't like the new roo one bit but now I see both the new roo and the old roo - and the old kangaroo just looks so 80s and outdated

[Jack B]

I very much like the new roo and font, and am glad they didn't change the actual colour scheme. The white body with the red tail IS timeless, and hopefully will take on the same lifespan as the American Airlines livery (which is from 1968!)

[Peter Agatsiotis]

Just so happens that I was given a Gemini model of the QF A380 as a parting gift from my colleagues at RAAF Richmond in June'07.

They were obviously not 'aware' of the revised livery so this is what it would have looked like if they were able to retain the existing (at the time) livery:

[Nadia B-J]

Hi Lee,

Thanks for your feedback and perspective.

I was aware of the rationale to update the roo due to the A380's proportions.

I don't like the new livery nor the A380, so I will just have to build a bridge and get over it :rolleyes:

I feel safe raising my issues in this forum, knowing that we do respect one anothers point of view.

Cheers! ;)

[Mark Grima]

This argument has ran its race. Anytime anything changes some will like it and others will not.

At the end of the day, Qantas has one of the most recognisable brands in the world, certainly the aviation world. Why would they want to significantly change it and have to start all over again?

Although in support of Nadia, if you can't 'vent-your-spleen' here then where can you?

Cheers

M

[D Chan]

I think when it comes to designing airline brand image people do take a while to get accustomed to the change - I remember when Cathay changed to the current livery in 94/95 I found the new livery to be awful compared to the previous. 10 yrs down the track when i look at the old livery I realise how 'dated' it was. Story is similar with Northwest, JAL, Thai and even BA so forth.

[Max C]

Saw VH-TQG (Dash 8-200) in the new colours in SYD today.

[Brad Myer]

Anyone got any updates on recent or future repaints?

[Tim Bowrey]

VH-OJO ferried in last night from Hong Kong as QF6028 parked at the Jetbase wearing a brand spanking new livery. Only her tail is sticking out and can be seen.

[Brian Wilkes]

Will see how long till QF stick decals all over it!:mad:

[Stefan Perkas]

Evening all,

From another forum,

Sydneysiders near Hangar 96 on Monday, 01 NOV 10, will observe a Taronga Western Plains Zoo scheme on a Dash Eight Q400.

Press release doesn't give aircraft's registration.

[Todd Milton]

Cool! Something to look forward too, seeing the amount of -Q400's we get here. Wonder if it will be -QOT or -QOW? :p

[Nigel C]

It is QOW

[Stefan Perkas]

Does anyone have a schedule for QOW over the next few days?

[Lee G]

Nigel .... what were you doing around the lease area....? (ha ha) :)

[Nigel C]

Leased from who?:p

And who says I was in it? :p:p

Who's laughing now? :D

[Lee G]

.... and with that, Ladies and Gentlemen, I concede defeat and bow out gracefully from this forum.

[Nigel C]

Haha...surely you won't! :D

[Max C]

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6967904&nseq=4

[Kieran Wells]

Great photo Lee!!

[Stefan Perkas]

Evening all,

Sorry to drag this topic back up...

But I have read around that B744ER VH-OEG is now sporting the new QF livery.

[Brandon Giacomin]

She sure is! Spotted her in Sydney last Sunday.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5062/5763915785_17be4eb8d9.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/brandon301095/5763915785/)

[Shayne G]

About a month ago, I saw an Qantas 747 off in the distance in the new colours and could see the engines were not RB211's so I thought it was OEB. But that would of meant it had it's Formula 1 decal removed and I later saw a photo on airliners.net after that date I had seen it still wearing the decal. So that would mean OEG has has been in the new colours for at least an month, surprised no one noticed it sooner :D

[Jayden Laing]

Originally posted by Stefan Perkas
But I have read around that B744ER VH-OEG is now sporting the new QF livery.

Its been wearing new livery since 17/4/11. I photographed it in Sydney arriving back from China (Guangzhou I think)

[Brad Myer]

Hi,

Anyone know if any other aircraft are in line for a repaint?

Seems to have slowed a fair bit recently...

[Dan Collins]

I'm wondering if either Wunala or Yananyi Dreaming will get the new roo painted on their tails and when will the first A330-300 get the new paintjob?

Dan

[Zac M]

Wunula has just left Sydney as QF6195, not sure where she is off to.

[Tim Bowrey]

Heading to AVV Zac.

[Brenden S]

VH-OEJ is down at AVV for a D check, expect it out of the hangar after 13th Jul

VH-OJS will be getting it's decal removed at AVV while in for a C check after the 14th Jul

OJM, OEI, OJN appear to be the next 744's in for a repaint


One to look out for is VH-OJO will be getting a decal.

[John Arena]

Will -OEJ be getting the revised roo while in Maintenance?

Also, what other B767, B737, A333 will be getting the new paint soon?

John

[Jack B]

I don't think they repaint in AVV

[Jason H]

VH-OJI just got back from a month in Hong Kong, and operated BNE-SIN today. What do they do up there if B, C and D checks are done at Avalon (based on what Brendan said)? Repainting?

[John Arena]

Will see how long till QF stick decals all over it!:mad:

Not that long now:D:D

John

[Sarah C]

Not a new livery but not worth a new post.

OJO (I believe) is sitting at the Pond with a Wallabies decal. It is green and gold, similar to the Socceroos one on OJS. I wonder who will get the first photo.

[Dave Parer]

If anyone could give me a heads up on the movements of VH-OEJ when it comes out maintenance later this month would be really appreciated.

I have a mate living in Dallas who is waiting to capture 'Wunala' when it operates a flight to DFW.

[D Chan]

the decal on OJO looks quite big too, it's mostly forward of the wing

[Jack B]

Qantas loves slapping decals on their 747s

[Craig Murray]

And here are some pictures of the livery as applied to VH-OJO from the boards own Seth Jaworski:

VH-OJO - 1 (http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=7144975)

VH-OJO - 2 (http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=7144976)

Stunning shots!

It's great to see the kangaroo once again holding a footy under its arm (they have arms, right?). Hopefully we see a few more of these cheeky little additions rolled out across the fleet in the coming days like they did back in 2003.

[Sarah C]

Stunning photos Seth, thanks for sharing Craig. Love the little ball under the roo's arm :) I still think taking off the Qantas title makes it look a bit funny.

[Jason H]

Departed today as QF5, so will be returning to SYD on Saturday morning as QF6

[Dan Collins]

I think it looks great, even for a sticker job! Would love to see it in the flesh some time. Any idea if it'll be around Sydney on Tuesday 12/07/11?

Dan

[Shayne G]

QF6 arrives way too early to get a good shot in my case. I'd like to catch her in the next week or so if anyone can give a heads up on one of her next return flights or departures I'd appreciate it!

By the way, nice decal it's good airlines still take the time to apply these on their aircraft, gives spotters something new to look out for! I agree with Sarah, the Qantas titles missing is strange! :D

[Jayden Laing]

Here is OJO departing as QF63 today (9/7/11)

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6139/5916787915_dec5e238d0_b.jpg

[Dan Collins]

Excellent shot Jayden! Hope I get to see her some time :)

Dan

[Jayden Laing]

It will be back tomorrow afternoon as QF64

[lloyd fox]

Where is the one painted in GO the REDS !!!;)

[Jason H]

OJO will be arriving in about an hour as QF64 before departing to London as QF1

[Peter Agatsiotis]

And at the other end of the scale is VH-TQG which I didn't realise had the new titles/roo until Simon in Broome pointed it out. Didn't think they would bother with the older Dash 8's.

[Sarah C]

TQG has had it for a while but yeah, I don't know why they would bother with them. I doubt the livery before was fading badly or anything like that.

[Peter Agatsiotis]

Thanks Sarah, I snapped TQG in the new livery back in Jan and didn't even notice. Have checked all my Qlink Dash-8 photos and found that TQY is the only other one I have photographed in the new livery. There could be more so I'd better be a bit more observant.

[Todd Milton]

Yes, -TQG has been in the new livery for quite a while now, and has also been named 'Pixie Rourke'.

[Fred C]

Dave Parer
If anyone could give me a heads up on the movements of VH-OEJ when it comes out maintenance later this month would be really appreciated.

I have a mate living in Dallas who is waiting to capture 'Wunala' when it operates a flight to DFW.

Wunala will be heading up to Dallas doing the QF 7 on Sat 23 (SYD time):D

[Brad Myer]

VH-OEI has just returned from China with what I assume will be a fresh paint job.

Also OJM has been in Asia for around 2 months and is also apparently getting a fresh coat of paint as well.

[Jayden Laing]

OEI came in from Guangzhou yesterday as QF6022 & departed as QF7 to DFW today (1/8/11)

[Jason H]

Apparently VH-OJS lost its socceroos decal when it was in Avalon. Had the decals for 22months.

[Stefan Perkas]

VH-OJM has been spotted doing air tests in Singapore wearing the new livery.

[J Brown]

OJM due SYD as QF6022 at approx 2015L tonight

[Jason H]

VH-OJM is operating QF21 tonight

[Brad Myer]

Looks like VH-OEE operated QF87 SYD-HKG on the 21/08 and hasn't returned since. (Similar to VH-OJM)

Anyone know if she has headed north for a repaint?

Thanks

[Jason H]

I would assume it is going for a D check as well as a repaint

[Anthony F]

Why do some 747's have the D check in China and some at Avalon? EG -OEJ was done at Avalon last month.

[Brad Myer]

Depends how busy Avalon is. Currently the first of 9 B744s to get major cabin upgrade is in AVV.

Also if a B744 aircraft requires repainting it has to be done overseas as no repainting facilities in Australia are large enough to handle the B744.

[Adam W]

Spotted OGG in Perth today sporting the new livery.

[Shayne G]

Thanks for mentioning that Adam.

OGG flew to Singapore back in September as QF6023 and many thought she was being retired from Qantas, now looks like it was atleast to get the revised livery. Nice to see her back, now it has the newer livery I suspect it'll stick around for a little while longer.

[Stefan Perkas]

VH-OGN went to SIN yesterday as QF6023. This may be the next one to appear in the new QF livery.

[Brad Myer]

Anyone got an update on any future aircraft QF repaints?

Love to see the A330-300 in the revised livery.

[Jamie D]

i just read on Airliners that Wunala has gone to Xiamen on the 02/12, can anyone confirm if she is getting the updated livery whilst there?

[Ian Nicholls]

I think it is 12 Feb 2012 not 2 Dec 2011 that OEJ is scheduled to go to Xiamen.

[Brad Myer]

VH-OEH is currently in Xiamen I assume being painted.

VH-OGN is back from SIN, still with the old kangaroo.

Thanks

[Dan Collins]

She didn't go there on 2/12 as she was in Sydney on 5/12.

Though I'm not disputing the fact she's in Xiamen now - It would be interesting to see her (and VXB for that matter) with the new titles and roo - will they do it?

Dan

[Ian Nicholls]

OEJ is not in Xiamen. Departed SYD 23/12 as QF7 to DFW.

[Shayne G]

It is highly rumored/expected VH-OEJ Wunala Dreaming will be repainted into standard livery.

[James S.]

What a joke. :(

[Shayne G]

It will be shame but we will see in the coming weeks as the aircraft is heading to Xiamen in a few days for the expected repaint.

[Lee G]

Wunala has been a great PR exercise for the airline - I only hope the PR Department knows this and keeps the colours on the aircraft ... or substitute it onto an A380! ;)

[James S.]

That would be even better Lee, or maybe Nalanji! :)

[Kieran Wells]

Unfortunately, cost savings by painting things in a simple colour scheme are easier to quantify than the amount of people that look at your eye-catching red plane as it flies above them in Herbert Street, St Leonards, or they see it at the airport while waiting to board the plane of another airline.


Funny you mention Herbert St, St Leonards.... I used to catch a bus from there and always loved waiting to see what would come over... If you head up to the corner of Whiting St and Pacifici HWY, Artarmon, you can sit outside and see 16 arrivals on final as well as have the 34 departures zoom right over head..(Sort of gives away where i work..)

[Shayne G]

VH-OEJ should be heading to Xiamen tomorrow.

[Tim Bowrey]

Shayne, acctually departing Monday 9am. If it comes back white, I'll never touch Qantas again.

[Shayne G]

Thanks Tim, just looked at SACL and saw that too.

It will be a sad day if Wunala doesn't return with the Wunala Dreaming livery. Seems best case scenario at this point is for it to recieve updated titles but we will see, sadly I am leaning towards complete repaint into standard livery.

[Brad Myer]

Shayne, acctually departing Monday 9am. If it comes back white, I'll never touch Qantas again.

Why?

Thats a bit harsh!

They have kept the livery alive for well over 15 years, including repainting it onto VH-OEJ after VH-OJB was due a repaint.

Its the end of an era... Just like when the last B747 leaves the fleet for good.

Thanks

[Tim Bowrey]

Why?

Thats a bit harsh!


You obviously don't know me Brad;)

[Brian Wilkes]

Time for a change, move on!
VXB will go in 2012 as well!

No sense sobbing over it!

[Jaryd stock]

I know ya tim, and I'm with u on that one. We don't wanna move Brian, every other airline has a different scheme on at least one of there aircraft, at least we have one of the best scheme's around, keep the damn thing. And who ever says that the general public don't even notice if it's Big Red or not is wrong, can't even begin to recount the times I've overheard other people at different airport lounges around Oz and world, when they see Big Red they all comment on it so it's working as a billboard for Qantas.... My two cents! And I need another Beer to drown my sorrow over this crappy decsion by QantASS Happy New Year....

[Shayne G]

You obviously don't know me Brad

I don't know you that well Tim unfortunately, but I am very well aware your favourite aircraft is Wunala Dreaming and has been for a long time.

Time for a change, move on
Brian, you are right. Time for a change, out with the beautiful eye catching liveries, time to look into the future. I think these days Finnair and Japan Airlines new liveries can be considered creative and eye catching! I won't sob I understand why airlines do it but for aviation enthusiasts like us on this forum, we should support liveries like Wunala Dreaming!

We still have these two exciting special liveries from Qantas!
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Qantas/Boeing-737-838/1579857/&sid=4c4cffd38f375b512e31ccd6468ab482

and of course this absolute beauty!
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Qantas-(Jetconnect)/Boeing-737-838/1905058/&sid=20967ef24cca80dd324e3a54b7419758

...perhaps ANZ 77W All Blacks livery can be the new Wunala of our region ;) ?

[Brian Wilkes]

I would like her to get painted in the ocar flying kangaroo livery with a fully polished belly.

That will get the ppl out again and much appreciated by all Qantas staff and enthusiasts alike. Might just get the airline back in the good books with a few ppl as well. Just my 2 cents worth!

[Damian N]

Totally agree with everyone's sentiments.....I thought that Wunula was considered one of the most recognized/photographed aircraft in the world. Any cost savings associated with removing this livery would be incredibly marginal in the scheme of things. One can only hope that this livery would be applied to an A380....although I can't see why they couldn't have applied it to an A380 first......imagine the PR images of an A380 and 747 Wunula parked beside each other at Sydney airport for the unveling! :D

[Sarah C]

I was on its last commercial service today- BNE spotters were out in numbers. I am saddened that the livery is going as it is easily the most photographed aircraft in the world and the marketing value is priceless. Seems the bean counters won the war in the end but decals just don't cut it. Maybe the 380 won't get a similar livery but hopefully the 787 does.

[Dan Collins]

Definitely a shame if the colours are going. Might have to get down to Sydney tomorrow morning to see her off one last time :(

It'll be a bit like when Malaysia Airlines got rid of the Hibiscus and Freedom schemes from their aircraft, but as said earlier, Wunala's been in the skies for quite some time. Definitely iconic.

Is there any hope this is just a livery update or is it gone for good?

Dan

[Steve S... 2]

With the brains behind Qantas of later days lol, just another negative move... ?

They need to find ways to impact the travelling public in a positive way... draw attention...

Is there a marketing division at Qantas anymore???

[Maikha Ly]

The livery has been on for over 15years. Personally, I think if it's time to move on, it's time to move on, because airline managers do not make their decisions to please enthusiasts and photographers!

I'm sad to see it go too. I only photographed it last Thursday taxiing, completely unaware of the fate of this livery :(

Funny you mention Herbert St, St Leonards.... I used to catch a bus from there and always loved waiting to see what would come over... If you head up to the corner of Whiting St and Pacifici HWY, Artarmon, you can sit outside and see 16 arrivals on final as well as have the 34 departures zoom right over head..(Sort of gives away where i work..)I too spent all of 2010 working on Herbert Street, St Leonards, for SBS Television! :)

[Jaryd stock]

Qantas was considering to put an A380 in a Wunula scheme but the thought had come up though, after they had applied names to each of the individual A380 fleet. And thus didn't want to or couldn't change the process that had been put in place....

It's not about keeping enthusiasts or spotters happy, Big Red is well known and admired by people like ourselves and the Genreal public. Was talking to my father in-law and he has no intrest what so ever in aircraft and he even thought this was a stupid decision saying that everytime he see's it he admires the artwork so to speak to him its an icon,and like I said before it's working as a billboard for Qantas and Australia as brand and a place to go to....

[Mike W]

The livery has been on for over 15years.

15 years you say? What, on a variety of craft? Certainly not OEJ. Check the delivery date...

[Todd Hendry]

Was VH-OJB before OEJ.

Todd.

[Oliver Gigacz]

OJB also had the livery on the engines.

[Maikha Ly]

15 years you say? What, on a variety of craft? Certainly not OEJ. Check the delivery date...My reference was to the livery itself (1993/94), not to the application of the livery on the particular aircraft (OEJ). Poor choice of wording, my apologies.

[Jaryd stock]

Chris talking about speical liveries not being around so much anymore how many have Air New Zealand got now as they introduce there ALL BLACK scheme to several of there aircraft.
So if one of smallest airlines can have quite a few models painted up why can't Qantas keep one...A very good one !

[Jason H]

Can anyone actually confirm that it will lose it's colours?? As far as I can see a lot of people seem to be jumping the gun a bit here. Also, what would it be called?? Another 'city of ..?

[Mike W]

My reference was to the livery itself (1993/94), not to the application of the livery on the particular aircraft (OEJ). Poor choice of wording, my apologies.

Of course. Thank you

[Dan Collins]

Wunala just lifted off Rwy 34L a short while ago, appeared to rotate nice and early. If tnis is the last time we'll see her as Big Red, atleast I've got footage!

Dan

[David N]

The flight number is QF 6021 if you are interested Dan

I hope we get to see another scheme like this on a QF bird soon :)

[Fabian Lee]

Wunala just lifted off Rwy 34L a short while ago, appeared to rotate nice and early. If tnis is the last time we'll see her as Big Red, atleast I've got footage!

Dan

Will you be posting the footage anywhere so that we could have a look?

[A McLaughlin]

OK, does anyone actually KNOW the livery is being dropped, or has everyone just jumped to the conclusion it is because it's off to Xiamen for a repaint/freshen up???

Let's just see what it comes back as before having a herd of cows shall we??? :rolleyes:

[Dan Collins]

I'm living as an optimist and hope Wunala will remain on OEJ. I'd love to see it with the updated titles/roo though, but a reversion to a standard paintjob would be saddening.

David, thanks for the flight number info! Will come in handy.

Fabian, I'll aim to go through my pics and put some up today. The video will have to wait - I could only concentrate on one camera and I was experimenting with a timelapse so have to search through an hour-long piece of footage.

Off topic from Wunala, but still kinda on topic with the new livery thread, I notice QF removed the Oneworld titles from A330-200 VH-EBL, does this leave only one aircraft in the fleet with the OW titles on it? Does anyone know if there are plans for more OW jets in the QF fleet? I'd have thought a 737 or 767 might've been wearing them by now?

Dan

[Shayne G]

I agree Andrew. When I first mentioned the VH-OEJ is off to Xiamen I made it clear it was a rumor it's going to standard livery. I also made it clear in the next post to wait to see what happens. It definately isn't going to Xiamen for a holiday and whether it is possible to paint the new titles onto the current livery is even possible, who knows?

It was definately a good idea to bring this to peoples attention on the board incase it really is going so people can get their final shots of it today before it left. I think we all are just worried the great livery is going which is a strong possibilty. There are currently no strong sources so far confirming the worst but we are expecting it.

[Sarah C]

Photo of depature this morning

[Brad Varney]

Or the new kangaroo.

[Dan Collins]

Here we go, some of my photos from Swamp Rd...

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7149/6617576867_887c50f8fc_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dshibi/6617576867/)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7019/6617576325_1b225c5329_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dshibi/6617576325/)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7023/6617577241_dbff382a63_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dshibi/6617577241/)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7029/6617577673_4674c467dd_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dshibi/6617577673/)

Dan

[Peter Agatsiotis]

awesome shots guys!

[Kieran Wells]

Great shots Sarah, Chris and Dan!!

[A McLaughlin]

Dan, was that a wing waggle after gear up?

[Dan Collins]

LOL - from the photos it looks like it could've been. Sadly no. That's just me not centering the subject in the photo very well.

The third image she was climbing straight out and then the fourth image captures her bank to the left :)

Dan

[Andrew Coggan]

OEH about to touchdown in Avalon from China. I'd say its going into the hangars there for the interior refit as VH-OEG did on did on this video. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kz4U6mGRf9M&feature=channel_video_title)

[Shayne G]

VH-OEJ is due back in Australia on the 22nd January 2012. Unlike the other ER's instead of going to Avalon for refit it will come back to Sydney and go back into service shortly after.

Info from http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/5356780/

[Dan Collins]

Remaining hopeful, if the aircraft hasn't been there that long (some on A.net appear to think it's been a quick turnaround) then maybe she hasn't been stripped and repainted? Surely that would be a time consuming process regardless of the livery she returns in. Maybe she'll retain the Big Red paint job and they've just reworked the roo on the tail and applied new titles.

Or not...?

Dan

[Greg McDonald]

With the number of Qantas employees on the board that think they're 'in the know' I'm surprised we haven't had a definitive answer yet!! :rolleyes:

[Alexander.L]

Maybe VH-OEJ will be all red and will be repainted standard colours later?

[Sarah C]

With the number of Qantas employees on the board that think they're 'in the know' I'm surprised we haven't had a definitive answer yet!! :rolleyes:

Well there is a definitive answer but it is not meant to be shared in the public domain. And the airline isn't going to publicise the fact either. You will see the answer when it arrives back in a few weeks.

[Micheil Keegan]

So it's neither red or white then?

[Brian Wilkes]

Might be a little RETRO:eek:

[matthew mcdonald]

I like your thinking Brian.

[Raymond Rowe]

Going to be painted all Silver with a big Orange star on it.

[Alexander.L]

Going to be painted all Silver with a big Orange star on it.

Now that I would like to see :D

[Sarah C]

Here is your official answer from Travel Daily:

QF on Wunula livery

QANTAS says it “remains fully committed to showcasing the diversity of Indigenous art”, after confirming to TD that its Wunula Dreaming livery has now been removed from the skin of one of its Boeing 747-400 aircraft.
The vibrant Wunula Dreaming artwork had graced the QF 747 for nearly two decades.
“The paint scheme from Balaringi Studio had reached the end of its life and the aircraft has been restored to a standard Qantas livery,” a QF spokesman told Travel Daily today.
“We will unveil a new indigenous livery on a different aircraft by the end of 2012 and the Yananyi Dreaming aircraft - a Boeing 737 by Balarinji & Central Australian artist Rene Kulitja - continues to fly,” Qantas said.

And this.........

QANTASLINK is to reveal a new Q-400 ‘Golden Guitar’ livery tomorrow in celebration of the carrier’s launch of the 40th Tamworth Country Music Festival

[Brian Wilkes]

Tamair did this way back in 1996!
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Tamair/Fairchild-SA-227AC-Metro/0095256/&sid=ed19e1a1cb968e1de2f70803d64a8f84

[Tim Bowrey]

QantasLink have unveiled their new Q400 scheme for the 40th Anniversary of the Country Music Festival in Tamworth. VH-QOI Is the aircraft.

Photos (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150489951092686.369097.8662337685&type=1)

[Dan Collins]

Oh well, sad news about Wunala but not unexpected. REALLY glad I was there to see her departure now!

There's still hope though with word that there'll be a new indigenous livery on another aircraft at some point. I'm hoping for something new and I wonder what aircraft type they'll pick? I'm guessing not an A380 as all of them up to #20 have names already allocated to them.

Dan

[Sarah C]

QOI is flying to Tamworth today at 1:05pm if anyone wants some departure pictures. Will returning about 7pm to SYD.

[Michael Mak]

If a new indigenous livery was to apply on an A380, would it be VH-OQA? Once the repair is completed in Singapore, does it need to be repainted?

[Zac M]

If iot is going to be an A380 I think it will be OQA. People will relate the Nany-Bird Walton name to the Singapore incident and really, it it was in a different livery with a different name the average Joe won't think about it.

[Sarah C]

No worries Chris - even with the cloud around, I am sure an outdoor photo will do it justice compared to the media event photos

[Mark Grima]

If iot is going to be an A380 I think it will be OQA. People will relate the Nany-Bird Walton name to the Singapore incident and really, it it was in a different livery with a different name the average Joe won't think about it.

Not so sure about that Zac. I think if OQA comes back in the normal livery, the "average Joe" will very very quickly forgot the name of the aircraft and the registration of the aircraft. In fact I'm sure most average Joes will never know the rego or name.

However if it comes back in a different livery, it will easily be recognisable as "the one that crashed somewhere in Asia" which is what I think most people will think/remember.

Back on topic though, I'd love to see an A380 in an Aboriginal livery, but I can't imagine there are any that need a new paint job (apart from OQA). Which 744s are due?

Cheers

M

[Tim Bowrey]

VH-OEJ due back 2120L as QF6022 on Saturday 21st Jan.

[Shayne G]

Though I don't necessarily believe it but removing 'Nancy Bird Walton' from OQA could be seen as a sign of disrespect to Nancy who is a legend in aviation.
However that logic would need to be applied to all aircraft currently with names in the Qantas fleet so perhaps it will go on a new delivery. I think they may keep the current name but have an aboriginal livery on a aircraft.

Which 744s are due?
They removed the livery off OEJ partly because the 747 is not a flagship for Qantas now so I don't think they will use the B747 for the next one. I personally would like it to go on an A380 preferably OQA, OQB or OQC.

[Jason H]

What is OEJ's name going to be now?

[Michael Mak]

Perhaps the new livery would appear on one of the A330-300s? The first 333 VH-QPA was delivered on 28/11/2003, more than 8 years ago. Has a D Check been performed yet? A repaint wouldn't be far away.

[Ash W]

If iot is going to be an A380 I think it will be OQA. People will relate the Nany-Bird Walton name to the Singapore incident and really, it it was in a different livery with a different name the average Joe won't think about it.

You could argue the opposite too, that if people knew the special livery was on Nancy Bird (even if the name was changed), and we can assume the media will make a big deal about it, then they would have no trouble linking the a/c to it's past. But as another standard livery it has more chance of hiding away.

[Zac M]

I won't disagree, both arguments make sense in a way...

Has anyone photographed (or found a news report) with VH-QOI today?

[Paul f.]

Has anyone photographed (or found a news report) with VH-QOI today?

Go to the Qantas facebook page.

[Mark Grima]

QOI is flying to Tamworth today at 1:05pm if anyone wants some departure pictures. Will returning about 7pm to SYD.

Was lucky enough to se QOI depart Canberra around 1635 this afternoon. For a relatively simple livery I really liked it. Unfortunately I didn't have a camera with me, however if the Mrs didn't leave work late, would never of seen the aircraft!!!

Cheers

M

[Jason Carruthers]

OEJ just came up on Plane Finder cruising at FL410 near YPDN should be arriving in YSSY in around four or so hours

[Todd Hendry]

Anyone got a really bright flash to capture its landing. Was hoping I'd take it to Perth tomorrow. Instead it's OJD.

Todd.

[Todd Milton]

Was lucky enough to se QOI depart Canberra around 1635 this afternoon. For a relatively simple livery I really liked it. Unfortunately I didn't have a camera with me, however if the Mrs didn't leave work late, would never of seen the aircraft!!!

Cheers

M

Came into Canberra at least twice yesterday, came back in around 18:35 and departed again at 19:00. Overheard a kid describing it as "The Guitar plane".

[Dave Parer]

OEJ just came up on Plane Finder cruising at FL410 near YPDN should be arriving in YSSY in around four or so hours

Also have OEJ on Plane Plotter and Flight Radar24. You can tell OEJ is an empty plane as it is cruising at 43,000 feet, while OJO operating QF1 has just passed underneath at 34,000 feet.

http://i40.tinypic.com/23jjrj7.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/2v3rlaf.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/2eecx6u.jpg

[Andrew Coggan]

I can see OEJ. Confirmed new livery. Will update with name if possible.