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Old 28th October 2009, 07:27 AM
Ryan N Ryan N is offline
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Default Long-haul passenger sues over broken seat

http://www.smh.com.au/travel/longhau...1027-hj2v.html

Long-haul passenger sues over broken seat
BELLINDA KONTOMINAS
October 28, 2009

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A SYDNEY man is suing British Airways for up to $600,000 after he was forced to endure a long-haul flight from London to Shanghai in a broken seat, a court has heard.

Richard John Pattison, 64, sustained an injury to his neck after he had to remain upright for the entire 12-hour flight when his seat would not recline past its "take-off" position.

The engineer from Concord told the court that during the flight in September 2006 he woke several times to his head "snapping back" after it had fallen forward because of the awkward angle of the seat.

When he complained to airline staff he was told he could not be moved because the flight was full, the court heard.

Mr Pattison, who had been on a business trip at the time of the injury, is suing British Airways for damages, including economic losses that stemmed from the incident.

As a result of his injuries he had to employ more workers and alter his hours of work as chief executive of a plastics manufacturing company, the court heard.

This included sometimes having to send work emails at 3am.

Did you find this arrangement satisfactory?" asked his counsel, Martin Luitingh.

"No," he replied. "It is tiring, it is no life and I'm married."

Mr Pattison told the court his neck had been stiff as he walked off the flight but it was not until he woke from a seven-hour sleep after arriving at his hotel that he began to experience excruciating pain. He could not raise his head from the pillow without assistance and it was too painful to lift his left arm above his waist, the court heard.

A specialist who prepared reports on Mr Pattison's injury, James Bodel, told the court there was a causal link between the flight and Mr Pattison's pain.

Dr Bodel said Mr Pattison also had a pre-existing arthritic condition, consistent with ageing, which made his spine "vulnerable" to such injuries.

"It is a very unnatural way to sit in a confined space for a very long period of time without trying to fall asleep," he said. "Economy [class] is not a very good place to be if you want to enjoy yourself."

British Airways denies it is liable for Mr Pattison's injuries, claiming he failed to use a pillow to support his neck and did not adopt an "ergonomically suitable position" during the flight.

Counsel for the airline, Des ***an, SC, asked Mr Pattison why he had sent a letter of complaint to the airline shortly after the flight which claimed the seat would not recline because there was a storage canister behind it.

"That was my theory at the time," Mr Pattison said. "Since then I have seen some information from British Airways that says the seat will recline with the canister there.''

Mr ***an said: ''The other position, Mr Pattison, is that your account here today of having asked an attendant to help you and [that] the attendant was not successful, was a lie."

"I don't tell lies," he replied.

The hearing, before Judge Garry Neilson, continues.
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Old 30th October 2009, 03:25 PM
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British Airways denies it is liable for Mr Pattison's injuries, claiming he failed to use a pillow to support his neck and did not adopt an "ergonomically suitable position" during the flight.
And a pillow was going to help how ?? Push his head even further forward !!??
How does one attain this in a cramped economy seat that doesn't recline ?
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Old 30th October 2009, 05:53 PM
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Looks to me like someone has come up with a new idea to make some easy money....
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Old 30th October 2009, 06:19 PM
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might be worth a thread of its own but gee I have a problem with how much a reclining seat interferes with the passenger sitting behind (in cattle class).
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Old 30th October 2009, 08:23 PM
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might be worth a thread of its own but gee I have a problem with how much a reclining seat interferes with the passenger sitting behind (in cattle class).
I'm with you Kim. I make a (self righteous I guess) point never to recline my seat because I hate people doing it to me so much

I'm also skeptical about individuals whom sue large companies over pretty much anything they can come up with...
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Old 30th October 2009, 09:08 PM
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I remember when I had to lock a seat upright on a SYD-LAX flight, the passenger was not happy but the flight was full.
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Old 31st October 2009, 06:44 AM
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If he'd flown on Ryanair, Michael O'Leary would have told him to go and f*** himself!

Surely the ability to recline one's seat does not constitute part of a legal contract between the traveller and the airline... Next people will be suing if their dodgy IFE doesn't work!
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Old 1st November 2009, 12:33 PM
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If he'd flown on Ryanair, Michael O'Leary would have told him to go and f*** himself!
Actually Irish Mike has done this before.

A guy complained that his flight from Stansted to Dublin was delayed and approached MOL (who happened to on the flight), who simply asked how much he had paid for his ticket, the reply was UKL10, MOL took UKL20 out of his back pocket and gave it to the aggrieved passenger and told him to F*** off and don't come near my airline again.

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Old 6th November 2009, 08:16 AM
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Absolutely correct,
no one tells lies in a court room
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Old 6th November 2009, 08:33 AM
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I have a problem with how much a reclining seat interferes with the passenger sitting behind (in cattle class).
I'll third that comment, however on a recent flight to SIN on VH-QPI the entire middle row had the small issue of the seats not being able to stay in the upright position, as soon as you put any weight on them they slowly started to recline - felt sorry for the people behind us, but there was nothing we could do. It didn't help that the crew couldn't understand the issue and kept telling the people in our row to put the seats up during meals etc, even after a demonstration of the issue to them.
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